Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 19413 - 19419)

Ordered: that Counsel and Parties be called in.
The Petition of Grand Central Studios
Mr Clive Newberry, QC appeared on behalf of the Peititioner.
Sharpe Pritchard appeared as Agent

  19413. Chairman: We will now move on to today's session. The first hearing will be with the Grand Central Studios represented by Sharpe Pritchard. Mr Taylor?

  19414. Mr Taylor: Thank you, sir. Sir, the Committee may recall that this particular petition was part-heard on day 20 on 23 March. It relates to the Grand Central Studios property at 51 to 53 Great Marlborough Street, which you can see on the plan in front of you.[1] The property lies above the proposed westbound tunnel for Crossrail, about 250 metres west of Tottenham Court Road. The Petitioner is the leaseholder of part of the property and has no legal interest in the subsoil. I will just outline where we have got to because obviously some considerable time has passed since 23 March of last year. The studios were built between 2003 and 2006 in the knowledge of the safeguarding of the Crossrail project and the Petitioner is, of course, concerned to protect the noise environment of the sound studios, the noise arising during the operation of the construction railway and, indeed, the operation of the Crossrail scheme itself.


  19415. We got to the point last time where we heard part of the evidence in chief of Mr Ivor Taylor. The Committee may remember that day particularly well because that was the day that Mr Elvin revealed the true extent of his encyclopaedic knowledge of the Harry Potter movies and, indeed, the Lord of the Rings saga, which is etched on my memory. We ran out of time, however, before Mr Ivor Taylor could complete his evidence and, indeed, before he was cross-examined. I am pleased to say that since that time there have been considerable discussions between the parties with a view to narrowing the issues and there has been some success to the extent that the Petitioners and the Promoters have agreed a groundborne noise design criterion to be applied to Crossrail once in operation. There remains a dispute, however, as to the appropriate groundborne noise design criterion to apply to the construction railway of the Crossrail project and the Petitioners are also concerned to secure compensation in the event that a design criterion is breached and losses are caused to the sound studios. The Promoter will contend that it is necessary to identify a noise criterion for the construction railway that allows sufficient flexibility to enable the project to be constructed, whilst ensuring that a noise environment within the sound of the studios is not compromised. The Promoter contends that is achieved by offering a criterion of NC25, and the Committee may remember about the NC curve last time and they are going to hear a lot about it this morning, I am afraid. The Promoter's criterion is offered to be achieved within the studios in all reasonably foreseeable circumstances; the Petitioner, however, contends that a more stringent criterion should apply and Mr Newberry will explain that to you shortly.

  19416. So far as compensation is concerned, the issue relates to a hypothetical, what if the railways provided breach the criterion that are identified as appropriate and the Petitioner claims that in those circumstances compensation should be payable? The Promoter has offered undertakings to the effect that in the event that a design criterion is breached and if that breach is due to a failure to install the railway specified in the undertaking offered, or is due to a failure to maintain the railway appropriately, steps must be taken to remedy the failure. The Petitioner argues, however, that is not good enough. They suggest instead that the National Compensation Code should be extended for them so they have special treatment to allow them to claim business losses notwithstanding that no land is taken and where there has not been a lack of care in the execution of the project, and they seek to justify that petition by suggesting that there is no certainty that the design criterion will be met. The Committee will be aware, of course, that the Promoter's case is that the National Compensation Code is to be applied and that in any event there is sufficient certainty in the modelling and the project to be able to design the construction and operation of the railway to meet the criterion.

  19417. Mr Taylor: That is a brief outline of the basic position of the party. I hope I have done that fairly; I am sure Mr Newberry will correct me if I have not, but I will hand over to him.

  19418. Chairman: Mr Newberry?

  19419. Mr Newberry: Good morning. That was a very helpful summary, Committee. Can I add one or two additional points. When we were last before you, there was an issue concerning whether the nature of the foundations of the studio were wrong. You may remember we thought they were on piled foundations, that turns out to be wrong and they are on something called "pad" foundations. The effect of that has enabled Crossrail to offer a standard during the operation of the railway which is acceptable to the studio, known as "NC20—3dB", and that will enable the studio to function if that standard is met. As Mr Taylor has indicated, the problem arises from our perspective when the railway is being constructed and, in particular, when the tunnel boring machines are doing their work within the order of 100 metres or so of the studio. When that process is going on it is my understanding that NC25 is being offered, and you will hear both from Mr Bell and Dr Hunt that the nature of the modelling exercise and the accuracy that can be attributed to the model leads us to believe that that standard probably cannot be met and, even if it could be met, the operation of the construction of the railway will adversely affect the NC 20—3 in a way which renders the studio inoperable. That is where we stand at the moment on that issue.


1   Crossrail Ref: P143, Location of Grand Central Studios, 51-53 Great Marlborough Street (WESTCC-9303-001). Back


 
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