Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 20000 - 20019)

  20000. Mr Elvin says that both common law and statutory law refer to give and take, and I recognise that. However, where you do have special cases, the situation where a railway which is funded by taxpayers' money, I might add, has the effect of rendering important businesses inoperable, I say that it is inequitable that such a business should have to close and receive no recompense for going out of business. That seems to me to be wholly unfair.

  20001. The standard package was referred to by both Mr Taylors, and it appears that that was made available or drawn to the knowledge of persons in circumstances where they were making a planning application. That is not the case here, as you know. Although we were aware of the safeguarded route, the situation, in my submission, had changed radically from the context of that document by the shifting standards which have come forward over time. The 30dB LAmax was where it was started, and altered over the course of time to NC20-3dB. Whatever that document was promulgating has changed over time to the situation we have now reached. I might add that the railway continued to be redesigned even up to this morning with Mr Berryman, when what was in the agreement of 15-metre lengths was happily doubled to 30-metre lengths without the bat of an eyelid. So the design process continues.

  20002. Sir, we rely on the evidence of Dr Hunt, from Trinity College Cambridge, and shorn of all the technical details the principle that he is making is a simple one, and that is that modelling is not an exact science. That principle, I think, is recognised by the Promoters including Mr Thornely-Taylor, who himself recognised variations but limited to +5dB. Dr Hunt is a rigorous academic. He has looked at the published papers in relation to mathematical models, including mathematical models dealing with sound and the prediction of sound. However, he concludes from extensive research that the models are not reliable to a minimum of 10dB. That is not a maximum figure; that is a minimum figure. 10dB in acoustic terms, is a doubling of sound. So if he is right, if you are prepared to accept that that research that he has carried out is well-founded and correct, the variation that he is talking about is a doubling of sound.

  20003. If he is right, in my submission, then there is real cause for concern that we need to be protected, and that brings forward the basis for our saying to you that if he is right and the Promoters cannot, for whatever reason, meet their standards then we should be entitled to a measure of protection by way of compensation. I might add that his research, as he indicated to you, is based on published data, all in the public realm, and so far as that point is concerned—that is, his research of published data has thrown up, as it were, the 10dB point—as such that was not challenged. It has not been suggested he was wrong in terms of his research on deriving that figure. All that is being said is that Mr Thornely-Taylor has, as it were, bucked the trend for some reason and can predict to a high level of accuracy in an area which Dr Hunt has said is riddled with uncertainties.

  20004. I leave it to you on this basis: that there is a real and informed doubt as to whether or not you should accept the contention put forward by the Promoters that their model is, as it were, twice as accurate as anything else that Dr Hunt, in his extensive researches, has found.

  20005. We called David Bell to give evidence before you because we wanted you to know from one of the world's leading studio constructors about how he approaches his task, and how he works. He builds to exacting industry standards. He himself is an engineer as well as an acoustician; he is not merely a construction man. In my submission, you can rely on his practical skills and judgment. He is an informed man at the sharp end of the industry. He has said to you that the 8dB difference between the NC25 (that is the level of the construction noise of the temporary railway) will be heard as the standard within the studios of NC20-3 third band octave. Putting it another way, where you have got NC25 as the standard for the temporary railway, NC25 there and NC25 within the studio do not equal NC25.

  20006. Mr Taylor in his evidence to you used the expression that he felt the company was subject to the roll of the dice. I think what he meant by that was that there is a level of material uncertainty which threatens the business. If the Promoters are right, so be it, then there will be no further action taken. If they are not right what the Promoters are, in essence, saying to you is: "If we get it wrong then there is no recompense available to Grand Central Studios". So they allow themselves the luxury of getting it wrong and walking away if they cannot get it right. In my submission, that is not an acceptable situation for a world-class company to face, and if that situation arises I am asking you to put a provision in the Bill relating to compensation. At the end of the day, this is a situation where we say, based on the evidence of Mr Bell and Dr Hunt, that there are real and genuine doubts about the accuracy of the model and what flows from that is we cannot maintain the existing standards in our studio which, as common ground, have to be maintained for us to continue. That is the critical factor you have got to address when you are making your recommendations.

  20007. Chairman: Thank you. That concludes that particular hearing. We now move on to the next hearing which is the Association of Professional Recording Services and UK Post Limited.

The Petition of Association of Professional Recording Studios and UK Post

Mr Alastair Lewis appeared on behalf of the Petitioner.

Sharpe Pritchard appeared as Agent

  20008. Mr Lewis: It is actually the Professional Recording Studios and there is another joint Petitioner, his name is UK Post, so it is a joint Petition. I have a prepared written statement and I have timed myself 15 minutes tops, I hope.

  20009. Chairman: Very good.

  20010. Mr Lewis: I will try not to mention decibels!

  20011. Sir, in simple terms, everything you hear every day on the radio, television, film and new media in the UK was almost certainly touched, altered and controlled by a member of the UK post-production industry. My clients are the principal trade bodies who represent this industry. My clients ask that Crossrail provide the best possible mitigation for the sound and vibration that the construction and operation of Crossrail will cause. My client's charge is that Crossrail have so far failed in its duty of care to balance damage to local industries and cost to the public purse against the cost of providing the best possible mitigation against sound vibrations.

  20012. The APRS is a trade organisation whose primary aim is to develop and maintain excellence at all levels within the UK's audio industry. It was established in 1947 and has over 250 members. The APRS aims to promote the highest standards of professionalism and quality within the audio industry and is concerned with, among other matters, standards, training, technical and legal issues. Its members include recording studios, post-production houses, mastering, replication, pressing and duplicating facilities and providers of education and training as well as record producers, audio engineers, manufacturers, suppliers and consultants.

  20013. UK Post and Service is a trade organisation which represents the post-production and special effects' sector at home and internationally. It was established in 2004 and has 146 members. Seventy per cent of those are in London and 30 per cent of the total are based in Soho. UK Post and Services supports and promotes the industry, acts as a strategic lobbying body, and focuses particularly on fiscal, legislative and workforce issues affecting the industry. Its membership encompasses companies involved in visual effects, visual and audio special effects, physical effects, animation, picture and sound editing, computer generated images and interactive media.

  20014. The UK has a global reputation in the media industry and attracts a great deal of overseas and domestic business. The industry in London is situated namely, as we have heard, in the Soho area and constitutes the centre of excellence for the industry for the whole of the UK for sound and picture services to the advertising and film industry. UK Post commissioned a report in October 2005, undertaken by Oxford economic forecasters. It valued the film, post-production and special effects sector at £370 million. That figure does not take into account all the television post-production activity in Soho. The industry is a significant contributor to UK PLC. Its strategic importance is the envy of many. For illustration, Malaysia, one of the emerging tiger economies, has established a multi-media super corridor or city trying to emulate the concentration of excellence that locations such as Hollywood and UK Soho represent, so we are under competition.

  20015. The importance of Soho to the UK post industry is illustrated by the map on which you have seen showing the location of the many studio facilities in the Soho area.[5] It might be useful if it was put up again. As you have seen, there are a number of studios situated directly above or close to the proposed Crossrail line. Many of these studios are members of or represented by the APRS and UK Post and Services.


  20016. My clients' members can broadly be described as "cottage industries". Most of them are small businesses built up from by entrepreneurs like Ivor and Carol, often having worked their way up through the industry learning the ropes.

  20017. Although they operate in a competitive environment, they rely on each other to a great extent, not just because each of them plays different but complementary roles in the film and television industry, but also because they encourage and maintain the idea of Soho being a place to go for the services which they offer. This concentration of services in such a small area of Soho is unique in the world and allows for a level of efficiency and creative excellence second to none.

  20018. Examples of the type of the work carried out by the Petitioners' members include the creation of the title sequence for the BBC's coverage of the 2006 football World Cup, the special effects in the recent BBC television series, Ocean Odyssey, and the recording of the Elvis impersonator in the now famous Radio 2 advertisement. Further examples of special effects include world-leading examples like Gladiator, Harry Potter, and Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, all created in Soho.

  20019. Studios usually have only one chance to carry out a project. They have to be booked for a specific time and often there is one opportunity for the work to be done. It would be unacceptable for studios to have to cancel, delay or postpone work due to noise interruptions caused by the construction or operation of Crossrail.


5   Committee Ref: A221, Grand Central Studios-What harm can Crossrail cause sound studios in Soho? (WESTCC-9305A-032). Back


 
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