Select Committee on Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 20020 - 20039)

  20020. Interruptions due to the rumbling and vibrations of trains emanating through the studio would not, as you have heard from Grand Central, be tolerated by the industry's clientele. The industry has, over the years, built up a specialised and sophisticated infrastructure with skills and state of the art equipment recognised across the world for their quality. As a result, it attracts major contracts as well as the highest industry awards for its work, including Oscars, Emmys and BAFTAs. My clients have provided a list of recent awards won and nominations made and I will hand that around for you to see.[6]


  20021. Chairman: List that as A226.

  20022. Mr Lewis: The Petitioners want the industry to continue to flourish in Soho and look forward to an even greater number of studios operating from Soho in the future. If constructed with due consideration for noise and vibration, Crossrail will actively contribute to the reason to do post-production in Soho. However, if not properly constructed in these respects, their members will suffer loss of business due to the impact of Crossrail. They fear that this will eventually affect the long-term viability of the industry and a significant loss of work to other countries.

  20023. As of today, they compete successfully and often lead in what is a global business. There is a public interest in what we are saying here.

  20024. Added to the background information about the industry in general, I should mention a further matter of concern. Most of my clients' members are leaseholders of premises and there are consequences which arise from that which I will come on to later and about which you have just heard.

  20025. Petitioners' concerns. First, and as previously acknowledged, my clients recognise the benefits that Crossrail will bring to London. A direct link to Heathrow Airport in particular and stations near to the M25 will be a particular benefit to the industry. The reason I am appearing on their behalf before the Select Committee today, however, is that they have major concerns about the impact of the construction and operation of Crossrail. They are particularly concerned about noise, you will not be surprised to hear, especially ground-borne noise and vibration from the temporary railway during the construction of Crossrail and from the main railway when Crossrail becomes operational.

  20026. The Petitioners fear that the reputation of the UK industry will be immeasurably harmed if noise during the construction and operational phase causes problems for their members. The sound recording, post-production and special effects industry is required to meet certain highly specialised standards, such as the Dolby standards about which you have heard. If companies within the industry fail to meet such standards or if noise from construction or train operation can be heard in sensitive sound recording studios, there is a real threat that they will quite simply go out of business. When my clients' members take on premises or decide to refurbish or upgrade them they have to make very careful decisions about what sort of noise mitigation measures they will need to install to ensure that they are able to comply with their customers' exacting standards. There are existing specifications which must be met for some of my clients' members to be entitled to a Dolby licence, for example, and you have heard about that. However, technical standards like the Dolby criteria, although critically important, are not the only yardstick by which a client will judge one of my clients' members' premises. I do not wish to go into any level of technical detail myself, you will be glad to hear, but the simple fact of the matter is that a studio can meet the standards specified by Dolby but, at the same time, a passing underground train may well be audible. The Promoters and their noise experts would, I think, accept that as a fact.

  20027. What I can say for certainty is that Crossrail's design criteria for recording studios, as set out in the Information Paper D10, 30dB, is completely out of touch with reality. Sorry, I have mentioned decibels.

  20028. As with all "cottage industries", each "cottage" services its clients' needs as best it can while minimising costs. The major single cost for sound studios are those associated with ensuring the levels of sound isolation required to keep out the existing external noise pollution levels to achieve inside a studio the pristine noiseless environment requited to record sound. The level of this cost and sound insulation is always kept to the minimal level depending on the pre-existing noise conditions. As one would expect, the Soho post-production business is highly competitive and keeping costs down is essential.

  20029. Crossrail trains will be a new source of noise pollution. If the trains produce a 30dB level of noise, then in the context of the recording studio which has been constructed with a commercially prudent minimum level of sound isolation, the effect may well be, I am instructed, akin to the disruption that would be caused to this meeting if a workman started to make a noise at the end of the corridor every two to three minutes for ten seconds.

  20030. The fact that Crossrail have put forward such a lax and broad brush design requirement in Information Paper D10 without taking any account of the individual circumstances demonstrates a real lack of understanding of the industry.

  20031. When my clients met Mr Thornely-Taylor to discuss their Petition, he said that one of the reasons why the design criteria for the recording studios was not so strict as for theatres was that it was assumed that all recording studios would have good sound mitigation measures in place. They do, but only for the existing noise levels, not for such a major new source as Crossrail would be.

  20032. As previously mentioned, the cost of installing specialised equipment and constructing soundproof studios is considerable, and although my clients' members have to keep abreast with adaptation to, and developments in, technology, in order to meet the specifications of the wider film and sound industry, they will not do so unless they have to.

  20033. Because we are talking about, as I have said, small businesses with limited resources in the main, soundproofing measures will only be built where they are needed and they will usually only be built so as to ensure that the existing background noise climate is effectively eliminated. A studio owner will not go to the expense of installing Rolls Royce measures, which might lead to completely isolating the whole studio in a concrete shell with rubber linings, when he does not need to because of the prevailing noise climate being acceptable.

  20034. In turn, that will mean that many of the premises will have very little tolerance for any additional external noise source. So the addition of a sound of a train running past could have drastic consequences. Can I just remind the Committee of the experience of the honourable member for Swansea East which she relayed back on, dare I mention it, day eight of these proceedings. The honourable lady said: "I have recently been to see Billy Elliot at the Victoria Palace and every 15 minutes without fail it rumbled through and to say I was uncomfortable was not true but we were constantly aware of the sound".

  20035. I invite the Committee to consider Ms James' words and put them in the context of a recording studio. Being aware of the sound of the trains at a performance of what I understand to be a splendid musical will, of course, be annoying, but at the risk of tripping myself up with a question, I wonder whether Ms James would, if asked by Mr Binley whether it was worth seeing, reply that it was not because of the regular rumbling of the Victoria Line, I suspect not, but look at it from the viewpoint of a maker of a television commercial. Let us say, for example, a Marks and Spencer commercial, already mentioned, what are the ad makers going to think, what is the advertising agency going to think, if every five minutes a train runs through? It is simple, the advertising agency will go elsewhere and they will recommend that all the other agencies go elsewhere too.

  20036. Before I move on to explaining what it is my clients would like the Committee to do, there is one point I would like to make about compensation which makes the circumstances I have described above with some levity even more horrendous than I have mentioned up until now, and it has been done to death this afternoon. It is quite likely, in fact almost certain, that the majority of my clients' members who have premises in Soho will, because of their financial circumstances, be small businesses and have a leasehold interest in their premises. Because of that, unless their premises are required to be demolished to make way for a new station or a construction site, none of their interests will be subject to a compulsory acquisition, even if they are located directly above a tunnel. In turn, that means they are precluded from claiming compensation for loss of profits, disturbance and extinguishment of business caused as a result of the operation of the works.

  20037. Noise from the operation of the Crossrail trains could quite easily result in businesses collapsing through no fault of their own with no compensation available. I make no request to the Committee in that regard today, I just bring it to your attention so that you know what the consequences of Crossrail could be for the industry and the individuals therein.

  20038. It might be said that my clients' members are in the same boat as every other leaseholder as far as the national compensation is concerned, Mr Elvin has already said it, but that is simply not a fair statement. The faint rumbling of a train might be slightly annoying for an occupant of an office block, but for a recording studio the effect would be catastrophic. The fact that the majority of my clients' members are self-financed cottage industries means that an uncompensatable loss of business is not just a dent in the accounts of a corporate shareholder, but potentially personal financial ruin.

  20039. The specific concerns requests: these Petitioners, you will no doubt be relieved to hear, do not intend to provide an exposition about which noise criteria should be applied and what levels are appropriate. They would rather leave that to the individual members to present in their own cases, maybe in the Lords, because different circumstances will apply to different studios. My first request is to ask the Committee to remember that Grand Central Studios, who are members of UK Post and APRS have the full support of their trade bodies. Next, I would like the Committee to require the Promoter, if requested, to undertake a full and proper background noise survey of each of my clients' members' premises within a given distance on plan which should be conducted using agreed methods which are suitable for measuring the background noise in recording studios and enabling the owner of the premises to engage, at Crossrail's cost, an acoustic expert of their own to carry out measurements at the same time so that there can be a level of agreement. This will ensure that Crossrail have an accurate idea of what the actual prevailing sub-soil noise and vibration conditions are and have an accurate idea of what the existing noise mitigation measures are, if there are any, before delivering the design brief to a nominated undertaker. That would be a better way of approaching the matter than the broad brush methods used so far of assuming that all premises have mitigation measures in place and that, therefore, 30dB will be okay.


6   Committee Ref: A226, Awards and Nominations for the UK post-production and effects sector (WESTCC-31504-001). Back


 
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