Select Committee on Education and Skills Written Evidence


Memorandum submitted by the Institution of Civil Engineers (ICE)

INSTITUTION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS

  The Institution of Civil Engineers (ICE) is a UK-based international organisation with over 75,000 members ranging from professional civil engineers to students. It is an educational and qualifying body and has charitable status under UK law. Founded in 1818, ICE has become recognised worldwide for its excellence as a centre of learning, as a qualifying body and as a public voice for the profession.

  ICE has close links with the HE sector, for example through the Joint Board of Moderators' (JBM) accreditation—jointly with three other professional bodies—of a wide range of degree programmes, including four year MEng, three year BEng and foundation years.

  Under the UK Standard for Professional Competence (UK-SPEC) (2004) published by the ECUK, the educational base for registration as a Chartered Engineer (CEng) can be achieved by successful completion of an integrated MEng degree.

INTRODUCTION

  The ICE is concerned about the impact of Bologna on the integrity and viability of the MEng beyond its role in professional qualifications. The MEng is an integrated undergraduate programme normally of four years duration (five in Scotland) with a credit rating of 480 (UK CATS points)/240 (European ECTS credits). This is higher than that for the UK bachelor degree (360/180). The MEng also differs significantly from the UK bachelors degree in depth of understanding, the learning outcomes and the amount of M level work (as defined by the National Credit Framework). The MEng is respected amongst employers.

  The Bologna Accord model is for a first cycle/second cycle system of 3+2 years with the first cycle attracting a minimum of 180 European credits and the second cycle 90 European credits. This makes a total of 270 ECTS (minimum). Thus, the four year integrated undergraduate MEng programme sits uncomfortably between the first and second cycles of degree as defined under the Bologna Accord.

  There are conflicting reports about whether or not the four-year integrated MEng will be recognized as a second cycle qualification under the Bologna Accord. This uncertainty is not helpful and ICE believes that the Government has a key role to play in ensuring that UK qualifications are recognized. It is imperative that the UK has a robust, properly funded, recognizable and defensible second cycle qualification in civil engineering

MOBILITY

  We feel that there are huge advantages for the UK in complying with the Bologna Accord especially in respect of enabling student mobility and encouraging students from outside the UK to study here. It would be to the detriment of the UK higher education system if such students were discouraged from studying here because of a fear that their MEng qualification would not be recognised as a second cycle qualification once they returned home. It is important that HEIs offering civil engineering programmes have a defensible and recognisable second cycle qualification. Failure to ensure this will damage the reputation of the UK amongst the Bologna signatories (and future signatories), and will have an adverse impact on the recognition of UK Graduates within Europe (and the wider International area represented by the Bologna signatories), as well as the attractiveness and ongoing viability of the UK to attract students. It is crucial that graduates from the UK system are internationally recognized.

THE MENG AS A SECOND CYCLE QUALIFICATION

  Based on the proposed first cycle/second cycle 3+2 years model, the ICE recently supported a recommendation from the Joint Board of Moderators (the degree accrediting body for civil engineering) to universities that for their MEng they increase the number of ECTS (European) credits from 240 to 270. It was felt by ICE that this was a responsible course of action by the accrediting body in an attempt to safeguard the status of the MEng and its future graduates. This was felt to be the minimum step that could be taken. However, there is an increasingly despondent view amongst academics whom we have consulted that the MEng is not defensible under the Bologna Accord, notwithstanding an increase in ECTS credits.

  It is important that the UK continues to benefit from having high quality provision of civil engineering HE, and that such departments in the UK can operate on equal terms with international counterparts. There is some support amongst academics whom the ICE has consulted for utilising structured and assessed work placements and vacation experience as credit-bearing course components thereby increasing the number of MEng credits as described above. This is not viewed as being too difficult to achieve (examples of 2 x 10 week placements have been suggested). Some universities are moving, or planning to move, in this direction. However, there are severe resource implications and it is clear that not all universities would be able to implement such changes without additional funding from government. If a few elite universities—perhaps those with a high dependence on overseas students—make such changes, this could result in a two-tier system that we would not wish to see.

  Whilst it is often reported that there is a relationship of 2 UK credits to 1 European credit, ICE is not aware of definitive work in this area, nor of a definition of a credit in terms of Output Standards. This would be an appropriate topic for a Bologna Accord Study Group.

FUNDING ISSUES

  As we understand that the UK Government is defending the Integrated Masters as being second cycle compliant, ICE would like an assurance that Government will underwrite the financial support to UK students studying engineering to second cycle in whatever form that might subsequently have to take.

  The issues raised by the Bologna Accord requires a re-thinking of the whole basis of HE funding at both bachelors and masters level.

PROGRAMME LENGTH

  We have assumed that the length of first and second cycles (3+2) as defined in the Bologna Accord is non-negotiable. If not, then we would urge the UK Government to pursue this with the other signatories.

  If the length of the UK MEng programme has to move to become five years, ICE supports the view that the fifth year could be spent in industry. This would deepen the link between HE and industry. Issues of assessment of work-based learning, quality assurance, equivalence and recognition/reward for industry would have to be addressed.

PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATION—CHARTERED STATUS

  Although, the recognition of professional qualifications is addressed under separate EU arrangements, there is a risk that losing second cycle status for the MEng might adversely impact the recognition of Chartered Engineer (CEng). When according professional recognition to other EU nationals we use the education level to determine whether the recognition should be accorded at Incorporated Engineering (IEng) or CEng. Even though our professional qualifications address experience and competence beyond academic qualification, we would be concerned if other EU States were to use Bologna Accord compliance, or lack of, for recognition purposes.

SUB-FIRST CYCLE QUALIFICATIONS

  The proposed three-phase structure of HE awards (first cycle—Bachelors; second cycle—Masters; third cycle—PhD) means that those exiting with, for example, a Foundation degree are unlikely to find this internationally recognized.

LEVEL OF AWARENESS AND GOVERNMENT LEADERSHIP

  The level of awareness of the Bologna Accord has been poor amongst HE but is now escalating. ICE is very concerned about this and strongly urges some clear leadership at the centre. It has not been clear who/which government department is taking the lead beyond the first cycle ie first degree phase.

  The Government's Science & innovation framework 2004-14 opens as follows: "The nations that can thrive in a highly competitive global economy will be those that can compete on high technology and intellectual strength—attracting the highest-skilled people [...]" The framework's ambitions for UK science and innovation include the following:

    "World class research at the UK's strongest centres of excellence."

    "Sustainable and financially robust universities and public laboratories across the UK."

  All of this would indicate a need to ensure that care and focus is directed to qualifications at second and third cycle, and a clear recognition of the impact of failing to do this. To date this has been lacking with the impression given that focus has been on access to first cycle qualifications at the expense of the others.

  We recently learnt from the Europe Unit of UUK that the impact of implementation in 2010 is immediate and therefore those students who entered four-year MEng degree programmes in 2006 risk graduating with a degree that is not Bologna compliant. Anecdotally we know that companies may operate a "play safe" policy and prefer to employ those with internationally recognized qualifications rather than UK MEng graduates. Non-UK graduates who return to their own country on graduation may find themselves disadvantaged.

THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AT THE 2007 MEETING IN LONDON

  We do not believe that the focus should be on defending the MEng. It is not clear to us how the Government can continue to defend heavily the MEng whilst still ensuring that the UK has an internationally recognized second cycle degree.

  The Government should stress the UK's strong position on second cycle degrees. We offer a range of diverse provision at Masters level that is meeting the changing needs of industry.

  The UK has moved to an educationally strong position where the focus is on learning outcomes rather than inputs (such as credits). The Government should encourage the other signatories to move to this position of focus on learning outcomes.

  A Working Group should be proposed to look at defining "credit" in terms of learning outcomes and at the relationship between UK and European credits.

SUMMARY

  The UK needs its graduates to be internationally recognized.

  Defending the current four-year MEng (without modification) as second cycle is not tenable.

  The Government is urged to underwrite the compliance of the MEng with the second cycle qualification as defined by the Bologna Accord.

  There is an opportunity to strengthen the link between HE and industry in order to deliver extra learning to ensure that the MEng is recognized as equivalent to other non-UK second cycle degrees.

  There must be a clear single point of ownership in government for the whole spectrum of Bologna Accord-related issues to ensure directional leadership.

  The Government should give an assurance that an internationally recognized UK second cycle degree will be funded.

  Universities, students (especially those graduating in 2010), their parents, employers and accrediting bodies urgently require clear confirmation from the Government about its aspirations for the future development of the Bologna process and the UK's place in it.

December 2006





 
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