Select Committee on Education and Skills Written Evidence


Memorandum submitted by the Institution of Civil Engineers (ICE)

INSTITUTION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS

  The Institution of Civil Engineers (ICE) is a UK-based international organisation with over 75,000 members ranging from professional civil engineers to students. It is an educational and qualifying body and has charitable status under UK law. Founded in 1818, ICE has become recognised worldwide for its excellence as a centre of learning, as a qualifying body and as a public voice for the profession.

  ICE has close links with the HE sector. Jointly with three other professional bodies, as the Joint Board of Moderators, the ICE is involved in accrediting a wide range of degree programmes, involving approximately 10 universities per year, including 4 year MEng, 3 year BEng and foundation years.

  Academics are involved in many of the ICE's Committees and hold high level Member positions in the Institution including on Council.

  ICE has a student grade of membership: there are 8232 UK-based ICE Student Members (October 2006).

  Upon graduation, many of our Student Members transfer to Graduate Member status; there are 13619 UK-based ICE Graduate Members (October 2006). The majority of these are working in the industry, on company-approved training schemes, and working towards professional qualification.

THE ROLE OF UNIVERSITIES OVER THE 5-10 YEARS

What do students want from universities?

  They are looking for challenging and stimulating courses; they want excellent up-to-date education; they are being more "choosy" and making more enquiries when doing their research on where and what to study; they want to increase their existing level of education and more importantly their skill level so that they can secure good, well paid employment.

What do employers want from graduates?

  Broadly employers are seeking two types of graduates:

    (a).  The conventional competent graduate who is capable of doing well on a typical training scheme (this is probably the majority); and

    (b).  Increasingly companies are looking for something extra: they are becoming more interested in recruiting an interesting and exciting graduate with a wide set of skills (for example management skills, the ability to deal with politicians, and to succeed in the commercial environment) capable of learning new techniques and being an innovative thinker.

  Generally employers are recruiting both a and b type graduates; all graduates must have underpinning science and maths; a knowledge of, and ability to apply engineering principles and design skills are particularly important.

  The challenge faced by HE is knowing what to remove from existing civil engineering degree programmes in order to create the time and space for the new material to equip the graduates of the future described under b.

  Good practice is demonstrated where universities with industry links seek to deepen these links, making them more meaningful, which can have spin-offs for delivery of learning in the workplace. A challenge is how to recognize and reward industry for their involvement.

What should government want from HE?

  Graduates appropriate for a high skill economy.

  Internationally competitive HEIs—this may require a greater level of collaboration on research as the UK currently has only a few such centres.

UNIVERSITY FUNDING

Is the current funding system fit for purpose?

  No, it is not fit for purpose in terms of quantum; the UK HE system is under-funded. It does not fit the current demand.

WHAT ARE THE PRINCIPLES ON WHICH UNIVERSITY FUNDING SHOULD BE BASED?

  The pendulum has swung too far to the research extreme, with teaching taking a lower priority. Research and teaching should coexist in all HEIs to varying extents; the full economic costing of teaching should be considered on the same basis as that for research. The reduced relative weighting for lab-based subjects has had a serious impact and the weighting for engineering subjects needs to be increased back to the level of other lab-based disciplines such as medicine.

Should the £3,000 cap on student fees be lifted after 2009?

  This is a very sensitive area and needs to be dealt with very carefully. There is a serious danger of putting off students. If there is extensive provision of bursaries, removing the cap may be possible. It is important to remember that for research intensive universities, student fee income is a very small part of overall income; however others that are teaching-focused rely more heavily on tuition fees as a major source of income.

What should the Government be funding in HE and by what means?

  Government needs to think through more clearly what it wants from the HE sector, and make it clear that it wants to support UK science and technology.

  There are some areas where it makes good sense for government to fund—for example climate change research. The mechanism of peer review, for example, in deciding to allocate major EPSRC funding is a good one. It would make good sense for government to consult with the academic community about what they would like to see funded.

  See also, the ICE's comments on the Bologna Process and the importance of ongoing government support for recognisable and defensible second cycle qualifications in engineering.

Should central funding be used as a lever to achieve government policy aims?

  No. It is extremely important for universities to be independent of government. However, it would be appropriate for government to give clear indications of those areas which it wishes to see supported, as per the reference to climate change research mentioned above.

Should research funding be based on selection of "quality"?

  Yes, although we are not quite sure what is meant by high quality research; it is very difficult to define quality in the context of research. There must be a right balance of funding to ensure, for example, that "blue skies" research can be followed through to implementation.

  The danger of continuing to support research of high quality is that it is self-perpetuating. Mechanisms need to be established to recognise and support those without a demonstrable track record in research in order to provide opportunities for those other than the leading research HEIs.

How can leading universities reach internationally competitive levels of funding?

  By undertaking internationally leading research and working collaboratively. Government can help by providing funding for advanced equipment and excellent laboratories.

How can leading research universities reach internationally competitive levels of funding?

  Funding mechanisms should enable greater collaboration with non-UK universities. This needs to be facilitated by UK Government officials liaising with their opposite numbers outside the UK, especially in the US. There are examples (EPSRC and NSF) but it is felt that EPSRC had to concede a lot.

  There needs to be a different mind-set in the UK toward funding with an increasing emphasis on securing private funding.

  Funding by charities is welcomed, but the disadvantage is that they cannot fund full costs.

  In some cases, greater collaboration within a university between academics and central administration would enable better financial planning over the long term.

Are some parts of the sector too reliant on income from overseas students?

  The risk of such reliance is very high—some countries such as China and India are looking to establish their own provision so that the demand from those countries may decline. A better question may be "are all parts of the sector sufficiently aware of the risks?" They are probably not. London-based universities are likely to be more attractive to overseas students because of the draw of the capital and therefore need to be especially aware of the risks.

  There is a distinction to be made between the type of overseas student ie undergraduates and postgraduates. In some cases, the reliance is on postgraduates, with the consequent higher fee generation This, in part, reflects the poor UK funding regime for home graduate students.

  It is in our national interest to provide high quality HE for students from wherever in the world—it gives them and brings to us an important cultural and business perspective.

  See also the ICE's response to the Bologna Process[115] which highlights the risk of the UK losing its international reputation for HE excellence.

December 2006







115   Education and Skills Committee, The Bologna Process, Fourth Report of Session 2006-07, HC 205, Ev 102 Back


 
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