Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Further supplementary memorandum submitted by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (BW 47b)

  I am pleased to supply further material as requested relating to the information flows between BW and the department on the subjects covered in my hearing before your committee on 23 April. I am sorry this has taken a little longer to put together than you had requested.

  I should start by reiterating my central message. BW have to date received £8.9 million more in grant since 2002 than they were then projecting. And over the period 2002-12 they project that, even on an assumed CSR settlement of 5% real cuts pa, total revenues would be £30.1 million higher than they had assumed in 2002.

  The latest projections also clearly demonstrate that despite this the waterways will be in a worse state than they had projected in 2002 due to a range of changed cost and investment assumptions: they had thought that category D and E arrears would be 10% in 2012, but their revised asset management strategy target puts this at 15% in 2016-17.

  This is critical information for the debate about our waterways, which I felt the committee must have if issues around the projected condition of the waterways and how this has come about are to be transparent. The Chairman of BW's letter to me of 20 April enabled me to set before the committee all the facts as we now have them.

  What I have been seeking from BW is clarity about all of the reasons for BW's inability to achieve their 2012 target and clarity about how a long term settlement could lead to a steady state for the network. Ultimately in seeking this clarity I asked for a specific comparison between projections undertaken in 2002 and the outturn/current projections—and it is this that we now have, along with a clear up to date assessment of the state of the network.

  Turning now to the material attached, can I first point out that we cannot release material related to the Department's position on the CSR as this is policy in progress—the settlement is not expected until later this year. Can I also correct one fact on which I inadvertently slightly misled the committee. The projection based on a 5% real cut in grant pa was not the worst case, it was the fourth worst out of five cases. The cases had been worked up with my officials, but the projection used in the chairman's letter should not be seen as the CSR settlement: as I have said such a settlement for Defra has not been agreed by Treasury and after that the Department has to make its allocations. However, the committee is, of course, aware that there is going to be a tight spending review settlement for Defra, and it would be idle to deny that there are strong pressures the implications of which we have been fully investigating.

  The main document I attach is a letter from the chief executive of BW, Robin Evans, to Sabine Mosner, the then head of BW and Environment Agency sponsorship. Whilst I had been briefed on the CSR discussions which led me to seek clearer projections to steady state under different scenarios, I had not seen this letter. It summarises a considerable body of email and other traffic between our organisations. It shows that the department was aware of some of the changes in projections regarding the state of the waterways: I draw the committee's attention to section 8, and to paras 8.3.8 and 8.3.10 in particular. It states:

    "Our original target was to have the following profile by 2012:

    A:  4%

    B:  27%

    C:  59%

    D:  8%

    E:  2%

    Following all our analysis under steady state, we concluded that we could not afford to reduce D and E assets to these levels if we are also to keep on top of other major works of repair and renewal to non principal assets.

    Our revised approach is to aim for:

    A:  3.5%

    B:  22.6%

    C:  58.9%

    D:  12%

    E:  3%"

  It is important to note that this does not make clear that the new asset management strategy is to set a target re D and E condition for 2016-17 rather than 2012, the point which the chairman's letter of 20 April to me brings to the fore.

  The second document is an extract from the note of my meeting with BW on 27 November 2006. This states "The Minister asked for clarity on income and expenditure projections (other than grant) post 2011". The note explains that I asked "how much of any additional income would be needed for maintenance rather than being put towards reducing the amount of Government grant needed in future". What is significant is that BW did not there and then seek to correct this assumption that income would exceed that required for ongoing maintenance nor did they establish that, on the basis of their revised target, such a reduction in grant-in-aid was impossible.

  The third document is an extract of an e-mail between Defra and BW earlier on 20 April. This clearly shows a pattern of discussions around my request for "details of the assumptions lying behind BW's target of 2012 for elimination of maintenance backlog and achievement of `steady state' as well as transparency over financial projections". Much confusion has surrounded the definitions of "maintenance backlog", "statutory arrears", "safety backlog", "principal asset arrears", "outstanding work to non principal assets", and "steady state". From my subsequent discussion with the Chairman I am now content that there has been no deliberate attempt to obfuscate; however the effect of the interplay of these different tools for network appraisal and asset management has been to obscure the fact that the original 2012 target did not take account of the need to repair non principal works (see paragraph 4 of the Chairman's letter of 20 April):

    "As progress has been made on reducing arrears other priorities have emerged that have now become a chronic problem. There are over 11,000 Non Principal Assets (eg weirs, feeders, culverts, embankments, by-washes etc) that are in a very poor condition and which fail regularly causing disruption, customer dissatisfaction and excessive remedial cost. In recent years some funds that were budgeted for Principal Asset Arrears have had to be reallocated to deal with these issues..."

  And also in paragraph 6 ...

    "In addition, there have been asset repair costs relating to restored canals that were not within the original Arrears liability."

  It is this new Asset Management strategy that has largely led to the abandonment of the 2012 target of 10% D&E in favour of 15% D&E by 2016. I do not consider the EFRA Committee were given clarity about this. Instead the 2012 target was repeatedly alluded to in both BW's written and oral evidence and the impression left in the committee's mind that the failure to meet this target was all as a result of declining income. As we have now established BW's actual and projected income for the period to 2012 has actually increased.

  It is to the credit of the existing BW management and board that they have undertaken the reappraisal of the pressures on the waterways which underpins these figures. They have performed extremely well in securing the extra commercial income, which despite projections of falling grant income enable them to achieve the £30.1 million extra income over the period 2002-12. It is entirely right in my view that BW uses its assets to generate income to support the network in this way.

  I am happy to reiterate the point I made on 25 April in Westminster Hall: I have full confidence in the management of BW's business by the chair, board and chief executive.

  The Committee already has been supplied with supplementary evidence relating to changing BW commercial status. The summary gave three areas where BW is seeking greater freedoms:

    —  Freedom to borrow commercially.

    —  Land dowry.

    —  Wider development powers so as to undertake regeneration and development in the vicinity of other waterways.

  I would also like to make clear that the Chief Executive of BW formally, but unsuccessfully due to timing, asked Lord Whitty to include provisions for this in the Natural England and Rural Communities Bill. BW broached the issue with me and officials met to discuss this on 14 November 2006. I then formally asked them on 27 November to come back with proposals (see attached meeting note); they have yet to do this.

  Since the EFRA committee I have met with the Chair of BW on two occasions, once accompanied by their Chief Executive. We are jointly committed to improving the flow of information between BW and my department. It would be wrong for ministers to interfere in commercial matters, or the day to day operation of the network. But strategic choices need to be clearly presented to ministers as options with supporting evidence (eg spend priorities on major works, growing commercial business for the future, customer service improvements etc). In particular decisions about allocation of additional commercial income should be guided by ministers judgement. It may be right to reinvest this into further property development to achieve a revenue stream at a later date. But this money could also be invested into maintenance and arrears of major works to achieve steady state earlier than would otherwise occur. The choice should be subject to ministerial discretion.

Barry Gardiner MP

Parliamentary Secretary (Commons) (Biodiversity, Landscape and Rural Affairs)

Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

May 2007

DOCUMENTS FOR RELEASE TO EFRA COMMITTEE

  (A)  Extract of Email from Defra to BW—20 April 2007.

  (B)  BW Chairman's letter to the Minister of 11 April. Commercial in confidence.1[7]

  (C)  BW Presentation at Quarterly Shareholder Meeting on 26 February 2007—Board and Shareholder Business Performance Report Ten Months to 31 January 2007 and F10 Forecast. Commercial in confidence.2[8]

  (D)  BW Chief Executive letter to Defra of 9 February 2007.

  (E)  Asset Condition Schedule based on grant funding scenarios sent from the BW Chief Executive to Defra on 19 January 2007.3[9]

  (F)  BW Chief Executive letter of 22 December 2006 to Defra. (Annexes—Commercial in confidence4[10]).

  (G)  Extract from BW Meeting with the Minister on 27 November 2006.

  (H)  Commercial Freedoms—Extract from BW meeting with Defra officials on 14 November 2006.

  (I)  Extract of Email from BW Chief Executive to Defra of 14 August 2006.

  (J)  BW Comprehensive Spending Review 2008-09 to 2010-11 2006 [31 July] submission. (Annexes—commercial in confidence5[11])

  (K)  Extract from Minutes of Quarterly Shareholder Meeting on 22 June 2006.

  (L)  Answer to a written question to Defra from the Committee.





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