Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Annex A

Extract of Email Between DEFRA and British Waterways—20 April 2007

  We have had a number of discussions over the last few days about the Minister requiring details of the assumptions lying behind BW's target of 2012 for elimination of the maintenance backlog and achievement of "steady state" as well as transparency over financial projections (income broken down between various elements/expenditure—including line on maintenance arrears). You are also aware that Tony Hales is having separate discussions with Martin Hurst.

  Unfortunately the information you have supplied is not what was required. The Minister still requires in-depth information so that he can see clearly how that date was arrived at and why it will not now be met.

  As I explained MPs and the public perception is that BW will not meet its target date solely because of grant cuts. We do not believe this to be the case and that there are a number of other functions which played a part. For example commercial income coming on stream later than envisaged, and that the cost of maintenance (including ongoing) and the number assets falling into the backlog had been underestimated. You explained at our meeting the other day that you have changed your policy on clearing the backlog, but we still need the detailed information as to why the date of 2012 is no longer applicable.

  With that in mind, the Minister would like the following information. Please note that as far as we can tell the 2002-03 Plan for the Future was the first public document to use this date for steady state. If this is wrong please advise when you first went public with it.

    —  Figures behind the projections for each year leading up to 2012 and clarity on the reasons why you will not meet this deadline—ie:

  What was the backlog figure at that time. Show reduction each year. Did they allow for inflation, if so by how much. Confirm that the calculations confirmed the ongoing cost of maintaining those assets repaired.

  On individual assets—% of cost base that was about right, % over and under. Reasons why different.

    —  Grant. What was the starting figure and what were your assumptions on grant going forward. Did you then expect a cut off point for the grant and if not what assumptions did you make on continual requirement for grant.

    —  Commercial income—what JV's/PPPs were expected to contribute towards reducing backlog, show projected amount each year and actual.

  What other income was included. Again show individual elements yearly assumptions and actual.

INCOME AND EXPENDITURE

  Need more transparency on income and expenditure. The table you emailed does not give nearly enough detail and for example trying to add back in the expected spend on arrears did not reconcile with the table.

  Mark Turner was able to explain some of the background to the figures at the back of Tony Hales letter of 11 April [commercial in confidence]. However the Minister would be grateful for further clarification of table 1 in particular:

    —  What relation are these figures to the maintenance backlog figure of £97 million (as at 31 March 2007). I believe the £97 million is based on 2004 prices, so are the ones now being quoted on a like for like basis.

    —  How is £35 million "steady state" arrived at, what are the assumptions. When will you achieve "steady state", how will that affect any grant given at the time.





 
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