Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by the Centre for Sustainable Energy (CSE) (Cit 15a)

Q1.   Please could you let the Committee have some more information on the work done by CSE for the Climate Change Programme on the potential role of local authorities in reducing carbon emissions? (Question 140)

  Further to your letter of 10 November, please find attached our work for the Climate Change Programme on local authorities.[3]

Q2.   Please could you provide evidence of take-up of insulation following CSE programmes in schools? (Question 145)

  Please see table below from the evaluation of energy matters. It shows that the focus of energy saving measures installed as a result of Energy Matters tended to be on lower cost measures (where the young children prove more effective than professional advisers). This is principally because the energy matters resources did not include information about grants and discounts on insulation measures (cavity wall and loft)—which is the main trigger for take-up from professional energy advice provision. The full evaluation report on energy matters from which this table has been taken can be found at http://www.cse.org.uk/pdf/pub1021.pdf. These measures are separate and in addition to the energy saving behaviours which our original written evidence to the EFRA committee referenced.

Table 4



Energy efficiency measures
installed by parents since
Energy Matters

All Energy Matters Respondents
Children 6-11Children 12-18 Benefits of Energy Advice Survey 2002-Respondents who received advice on measures to install
Base: All Parents148
100%
89
100%
52
100%
1,229
100%
Number who had since installed: % %%%
Low energy bulbs (CFLs)40 463330
Energy efficient appliances15 16152
Draughproofing1113 1020
Double/secondary glazing10 1287
Heating timer/programmer9 1182
Loft insulation78 632
Block gaps in skirting7 88n/a
Floor insulation68 41
Hot water timer58 21
Solid wall insulation5 821
Loft hatch insulation5 46n/a
Loft hatch draughtproofing4 44n/a
Cavity wall insulation3 2419
New CH boiler34 26
Hot tank thermostat3 242
Pipe insulation32 42
Radiator foil36 3
Radiator shelves23 1
Hot water jacket21 47
Room thermostat 2
Thermostatic radiator valves (TRVs)— 2
ANY MEASURES5458 5270
Average number measures installed1.4 1.71.21.5


  I also draw you attention to details of an education programme we ran for sixth-form students (The Climate Change Challenge) which can be found at http://www.cse.org.uk/cgi-bin/projects.cgi? education&&1068 (follow links on RH side of the page for a conference report etc (or click here on http://www.cse.org.uk/pdf/sof1094.pdf).

Q3.   Are you concerned that the importance of the message about tackling the causes of climate change might be lost in any confusion resulting from the range of targets and commitments set by different initiatives and pledge schemes? Should NGOs try to co-ordinate their approaches?

  I think there is a danger of assuming that the public's inaction in climate change is a result of confused messaging. There's some poor messaging around which assumes that everyone thinks like we do about the issues rather than really understanding where they are "at" (taking account of differences between people too) and taking them from there.

  I think it is more that: (a) most people do not have a sense of need to act now (as opposed to some time in a while); (b) most people have a sense (not helped by some of the pressure groups) that the government isn't doing enough (so why should I do my bit etc) and; (c) (as I said in the oral evidence session) the political position that "it'll only work if the whole world acts" and the comments along the lines of "what about China and India?" leave most people feeling (appropriately) impotent—with no sense of the importance of collective individual action backed by government which leads global progress. The overwhelming sense I suspect most people have is that it is important to act but it can't be that important to act now because a government which keeps telling us it is urgent seems to be slipping the clutch rather a lot on setting in place measures and actions to tackle it and allowing things which contribute (coal fired power stations, aviation expansion etc) to continue unchecked.

  I have never been a particular fan of co-ordinated messages since there are too many "others" outside the co-ordinated group who will create noise and confusion anyway—and it isn't necessarily NGOs that are going to be the main carriers of messages to stimulate action. You just can't co-ordinate that much. It would be good if the government co-ordinated its own messages on a consistent basis (as per my oral evidence—(i) explaining the importance of collective action, (ii) showing how government is doing its bit and requiring industry to do the same and hasn't got contradictory policies such as airport expansion, and (iii) promoting the importance of UK leading the way not because politicians want the glory but because the global solution will only work if someone starts the dance—the UK started the last industrial revolution which caused climate change, so why not start the next one to control it?)

  Also I think that different people have different tastes and needs in terms of information, motivation, underlying values which determine their action etc. A co-ordinated campaign would struggle to address this. In the same way that there are many different brands of soap to suit different tastes, there can be many different routes to action on climate change. Soap brands—often produced by the same company—are promoted in different ways ("luxury", "freshness and vitality", "economy/long-lasting", "convenience", "health and security—anti-bacterial", etc) depending on the target markets.

  To extend the simplistic soap analogy, the key job for any co-ordinated campaign led by government is probably to explain the importance and mutual benefit of washing regularly and to show (honestly) how its own washing routines are measuring up—and how by washing regularly we set a compelling example for others to follow.

Q4.   How far will phase three of the EEC go towards securing recognition of the value of "soft" measures in tackling climate change?

  I think it will depend on the extent to which "soft" measures are allowed as qualifying measures within EEC and the extent to which Defra, knowing that there remains some doubts over the evidence, is prepared to allocate savings and lifetimes to "soft" measures in advance (and thus create a commercial case for suppliers to do "soft measures" within their EEC schemes). As we said in the recent EEC3 consultation response we wrote for the Energy Advice Providers Group of the Energy Efficiency Partnership for Homes:

  "We strongly believe that it would be preferable to include energy advice in EEC3 and risk getting the numbers slightly wrong than to leave it out and avoid stimulating and supporting activities which are very likely to have a positive benefit which has yet to be accurately determined."

  I have attached this consultation response for the Committee's information.[4] It is in the public domain and may therefore be quoted if the Committee sees fits.

Simon Roberts, Chief Executive

Centre for Sustainable Energy

November 2006






3   Local & Regional Action to Cut Carbon: An appraisal of the scope for further CO2 emission reductions from local and regional activity: Report to DEFRA for the UK Climate Change Programme Review. Not printed. Back

4   Not printed. Back


 
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