Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Written Evidence


Memorandum submitted by BBC Radio 4: You and Yours (Cit 55)

  You and Yours is BBC Radio 4's flagship consumer and social affairs programme broadcast between 12 noon and 1pm every week day lunchtime.

  The programme has 3.181 million listeners per week. Their average age is 59. 56.1% of You and Yours listeners are female. 43.9% are male.

  The social grading of listeners breaks down as follows:

    —  A and B: 36%

    —  C1: 36%

    —  C2: 14.4%

    —  D and E: 13.6%

INTRODUCTION

  Between 30 January and 9 February, working in conjunction with the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee, we gave our listeners the unique opportunity to contribute directly to the committee's inquiry into Climate Change—The Citizen's Agenda.

  Our phone in programme "Call You & Yours"—which invited listeners to air their views on Climate Change—was broadcast between 12.00-13.00 on Tuesday 6 February 2007 on BBC Radio 4. We asked our listeners to give us their views on:

  "The barriers stopping you from reducing your own personal carbon emissions"

RESPONSE

  The response was overwhelming; within two weeks we received 908 emails, calls, texts and letters. They break down into 8 broad categories:

    —  19% (175 listeners) had their own positive stories and ideas on what simple steps individuals could take to be "green".

    —  18% (167 listeners) responded to say it was government bureaucracy or red tape that was preventing them from cutting down their green house gas emissions.

    —  16% (147 listeners) said money was the biggest barrier to them reducing their own personal carbon emissions.

    —  14% (129 listeners) contacted us with "other" concerns including calling for shop buildings to turn off their lights at night to people considering vegetarianism as a way of cutting down carbon emissions.

    —  11% (108 listeners) said their attempts to be more green were hindered by a failure to get hold of particular products or services.

    —  10% (92 listeners) were sceptical that their actions would actually make a difference.

    —  7% (66 listeners) pointed out that advice given on cutting down green house gas emissions was often confusing.

    —  2% (24 listeners) emailed to tell us of their own successful community projects to reduce carbon emissions.

1.   Examples of those with positive stories and individual ideas

  The most common idea was to make small changes in the home. Many listeners spoke about turning off lights, cycling to work and turning down their heating. Some listeners even went so far as to suggest new legislation to make more of us take this sort of action.

George Elder from Powys in Wales

  He called for every citizen with a car to be provided with a ration book to stop excessive use of the car cutting down on fuel emissions.

Stella Woodman from Norfolk

  She believed she was very energy aware having low energy light bulbs and turning off equipment when not in use. But she also called for everyone to have a fixed carbon allowance to stop those with more money consuming more energy.

Judith Proctor

  She is surprised by how much money she has saved since becoming more environmentally friendly. The biggest change was buying a small plug in meter from Maplin which told her how much wattage was used keeping appliances on standby—this was her incentive to switch off appliances at the plug. She also brought thicker curtains and poured a mug of water into the kettle drew a line where the water came up to and now only boils the amount of water she actually needs. She also got rid of an old fridge because it used a phenomenal amount of electricity.

Kate Boothby

  She wants the UK to look to countries like Norway who she says have insisted on alternative energy sources being incorporated in all new builds. She says she has tried her best by insulating her house but wants the government to do more.

David Richardson

  He was interested in the government encouraging citizens to surrender their driving licences and passports for a "Green Medal" to encourage people to use their cars more frugally.

2.   Examples of those whose biggest barrier was red tape and bureaucracy

Brian Knight

  He wants to see fast tracked planning permission or a simplified process for people like him. He wants to look into having a wind turbine or solar panels installed. This he says will enable local residents to get on with reducing their carbon footprint without being put off by the red tape.

Lorraine Kitty

  She explained that she had already invested ten thousand pounds in improvements including double glazing and a new boiler to reduce her greenhouse gas emissions. But when she looked at getting solar panels she went to her local council for a Warm Front Grant the estimate came through at £2,600 with only a £400 grant. Her main complaint was that if you want a grant there seems to be no choice of installer and therefore no competition to prevent profiteering.

Patricia Howe

  She says her local council was offering free cavity wall insulation to the over 60's in her area. She has been busy trying to do her bit by getting double glazing, low energy light bulbs etc. But her house is built of sandstone with a 10ft x 4ft rear brick-built porch which faces north and is quite cold. But she was told she couldn't have that insulated for free because it doesn't constitute 50% of the building.

Tony Hirst

  He already has solar panels and wanted to take the next step and install a wind turbine. However his planning application for a 2KW machine was rejected by Anglesey County Council on the grounds that he lives in an area of outstanding natural beauty. This is despite the fact that he has a large telegraph pole in his garden which is higher than the wind turbine would be.

Chris Cheeseman

  He says that he wanted to increase the roof lagging to 6" depth and applied for a discretionary grant. But he was told that the year's allocation had already been spent and that he needed to get three approved companies to crawl through his loft to give him a quote. So he decided to do it himself but found that he wasn't exempt from VAT which left him feeling very disgruntled.

3.   Examples of those who say money is their biggest barrier

Ed Blacker

  He explained that two years ago he heard about the clear skies initiative which promised to give him a grant of 50% for environmental energy projects. But having committed himself to installing photovoltaic solar panels he revisited the site to discover that the original scheme now has a monthly cap put in place. So the scheme has proved too popular and now Ed has to find the other 50% to fund his project.

Eve Bendall

  She successfully had solar panels fitted and after seeing the drop in her gas bills decided to look at getting photovoltaic roof panels fitted. She says they are very expensive and even though there are grants allocated each month the money tends to run out in the first few days of that month.

Pam Golden

  She believes the majority of people would happily install solar panels or solar roof tiles were it not for the cost but at the moment only the minority do it because only a few can afford to take that step.

Kay Jackson

  She says the cost of going green is considerable. She has been trying to restore a derelict farm in Fife and wants to install sustainable energy measures including a wind turbine. They need to have a mains electricity supply to feed in any excess electricity they make but don't use. However Scottish Power is demanding more than £35,000 to do this work—an amount they can ill afford. So despite their commitment they are being held back.

Helen Taylor

  She says she has recently changed her central heating from oil fired to wood pellet fired. She believes she has saved around 8 tonnes of CO2 emissions per year. And she was lucky enough to get a grant of £16 thousand pounds. However she says government initiatives pay the same amount for other technologies like solar panels which don't have as good a return—more people seem to be encouraged to look at getting solar panels etc and not wood pellet fired central heating.

4.   Examples of other concerns

Colin from South Wales

  He says excessive street lighting wastes more energy than stand-by home equipment. Why do we need roads to be lit up all night?

Kat Himmel

  She says she adheres to a vegan diet which is organic and primarily local. More people should consider this.

Paul Sutton

  He says the only solution to our energy and green house problems is to go Nuclear.

5.   Examples of those who could not access services or products

Thomas Costick

  He says he has been considering having solar panels fitted to his roof but a big inhibitor is the lack of standards for such products and the firms that supply them. He thinks more people would adopt this technology at home if there was a reputable one-stop-shop for these products and their installation.

Keith Hicks

  He says he would switch off from standby his DVD recorder, Sky Box and TV but says he would loose all the settings and have to reprogramme them each time. Why don't manufacturers make it easier for people?

Suzanne Etherton

  She says she is doing up two flats and trying to install grey water re-cycling units. She has tried her water company and local planning and building merchants but no product is available. She has sourced some products but they are only sold in Holland. One supplier in the UK says there were no clear legal guidelines about grey water quality in this country.

Jacqui Watson

  She says she has been trying to find someone Kent based to install a wood pellet boiler at her house near Maidstone but despite seeing four different plumbers not one has been able to come back to her with a quote. She says if she can't find a suitable plumber how can she possibly proceed?

Dag Saunders

  He says it's been two years since he had photovoltaic cells fitted across their south facing roof together with solar panels for water heating. But he is still waiting for his electricity supplier to properly monitor the electricity he is generating whenever someone comes to read the meter they say they have no knowledge of electricity generation.

Catherine in Bristol

  We tried for two years to get two wood burning stoves installed. We got one quote in that whole time for £3,000 per stove. The difficulty was that the people who owned our house before had removed the two chimneys from the roof, so we had to have chimney lining from the stove right up through the chimneys and out of the top of the roof to a height of a metre. In the end we hired a scaffolding tower and did it ourselves. It wasn't easy.

6.   Examples of sceptics

Katherine Hammond

  Why is it that, while the public are constantly being urged to save energy, businesses appear to do little? Shops in towns and cities everywhere, for example, are still fully lit at night and their central heating systems are on full blast all day.

Wendy Birks

  What discourages me from taking action: When I heard that a lot of UK recycled plastic was being sent 5,000 miles to China where it is processed causing huge environmental harm and human misery.

Bob Hyslop

  When will the Climate Change lobby give proper treatment to the causes of the rise and fall of the 3 Ice Ages and the variations in temperature over the last millennia? Undoubtedly, these were due to the Sun's activities so how can humanity be responsible for 90% of the current situation?

Michael Williams

  When I hear experts on climate change saying "we should only half fill our kettles" or "turn our lights of at night" to save the planet, I despair and worry for future generations. It is "people" who pollute and the fewer people there are in the world the less pollution.

Peter Henson

  I would readily give up my car if we had an affordable, safe train service and a safe and extensive cycle network.

7.   Examples of listeners who feel their lack of knowledge stands in their way

Anna Thomas

  I have recently been looking into changing our electricity supply to a supplier of renewable power as I heard advice on the radio that this was a better solution initially than generating electricity ourselves. At first the alternatives looked good and could save us money but when I visited the Green Electricity Market Place website I learnt that most of the "green" suppliers were selling you renewable power which was part of the 5% that there were obliged to produce anyway. The only supplier that produced 100% renewable power was predictably more expensive. For a clear conscience it seems that this might be the only one to go for but the information available is a little confusing.

Richard Howarth

  Key is getting individuals to take responsibility and relates to wider issues, such as consumptions and waste. There are big problems with this related to education (the environment is rarely taught in business schools at University and the issue is marginal) and the self interest of all parties involved; business, individuals who want to maximise their own welfare and governments.

Victor Franklin Kitts

  Wind Turbines are NOT friendly. It takes at least 10 years to generate the energy which has been used to make it. Then it has to be repaired. It is a bad decision. Government and particularly the BBC should help people make INFORMED decisions.

Barbara Cooper

  We are going on holiday to Italy this summer. We really didn't want to fly but couldn't find a practical alternative or any information to help us.

Teresa Belton

  It is difficult to know where to get comprehensive, reliable information about taking green actions in the home. Eg on insulation, solar panels etc.

8.   Examples of listeners own successful community initiatives

Lorely Lloyd

  Many of us have been trying to do our bit for the environment in isolation. Now using the Transition Towns community action model we can work together locally to produce and implement an energy descent plan for our towns or bioregions. Transitiontowns.org list several towns including Totnes, Falmouth, Penwith etc transitionculture.org shows the practical steps for relocalisation and powering down to establish a low carbon based future to both protect our environment and prepare us for the impending reduction in supplies.

Pauline Fothergill

  Most people want to do something but they don't know what. I lead the Thatcham Environment Team and our number priority at the moment is to appoint a "Make Thatcham Green Officer"—a sort of Go Green Guru. Someone that people can trust to go into their homes and carry out a green audit and recommend appropriate ways that they can reduce their carbon emissions.

Chris D'Avray

  We are organising an Eco Awareness Day in Lingfield, Surrey, on the 9 June with an exhibition supported by the eco industry and a parallel conference to give local people the opportunity of seeing what simple things they can do in their own homes to reduce carbon emissions in our village. Lingfield has been presented with the Best Village in Surrey award and we are proud of what local people can do. I believe that going green locally can make all the difference.

Diana Berriman

  I work for a community group call Llanidloes Energy Solutions which wants to tackle climate change on a local scale. We have been encouraging local people to reduce energy wastage as part of our energy efficiency campaign, which also gives us an idea of the energy use in the town. The main problem we are experiencing is the lack of funds to support such a venture, and the high capital costs of the technology, connecting to the grid and ancillary works. Our overall aim is to be carbon lean as a town, and this is proving more and more difficult as legislation gets in the way and lack of funds.

Liz Reason

  We have set up Sustainable Charlbury to help individuals, households and the community as a whole to reduce the CO2 emissions. We have several projects in development—a different kind of home energy audit, street champions, an organic garden, and a light bulb library—an e-missions statement.

You and Yours feedback:

  This programme prompted one of the largest responses we have had on "Call You and Yours". The majority of emails and phone calls came in during the one hour broadcast (approximately 500 emails and 200 phone calls). The vast majority of listeners who contacted us were enthusiastic about reducing their own green house gas emissions. They were also keen to point out the barriers and even had suggestions of ways to reduce these. Most were keen to be involved with the radio programme because of the potential to help shape the Select Committee's final report.

Producer: Rabeka Nurmahomed

BBC Radio 4: You & Yours

February 2007





 
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