Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by the Department of Health

Question 49 (Mr Austin Mitchell): Co-ordination between children's centres and Primary Care Trusts

  In drawing together a response, we have examined:

    —  information collected from November 2005-March 2006 as part of the Department of Health's and Durham University's first year of the National Child Health and Maternity Services Mapping project—specifically the data in to questions on the number of early years' services provided by PCT; whether the main base of the service was in a children's centre; and/or whether a children's centre was used for outreach services;

    —  DfES information on the number of designated children's centres in each local authority area in November 2005; and

    —  NAO summaries of its interviews at children's centres and local authorities about partnership issues.

  At annex A we have set out a list of those PCTs who informed the Mapping project that they were not using children's centres either as a main base or for outreach early years' services when it is evident from the DfES list that there was a designated children's centre on their patch. This could be taken as an indicator that partnership working was not well developed. However, caution is needed as the mapping does not identify circumstances where the children's centre is funding health services directly.

  We have also listed the PCTs who informed the Mapping project that they were using the children's centre as their main base for early years' services. We suggest that this is an indicator of good partnership working

  There are some obvious cautionary notes about the interpretation of this information that I am sure the Committee will understand.

  The NAO's summary of its interviews indicates that at the time of its visits a number of LAs and children's centres were experiencing difficulties in developing partnerships with PCTs because PCTs were merging or restructuring. These changes have now been completed. Coterminosity between PCTs' and LAs' boundaries has increased from 44% to 70% and we would expect this shift to have assisted the development of partnership working

  While we were very encouraged by the level of support demonstrated generally by PCTs and NHS providers in contributing data to the first year of the Mapping project, not all PCTs submitted a return and the information wasn't complete for each PCT in every respect. Much effort has been focused on improving the mapping data in the last year.

Hilary Samson-Barry

Programme Director, Children, Families & Maternity


 
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