Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by HM Treasury

Question 48 (Dr John Pugh): St John's Bootle Benchmarking exercise

  At the hearing you also requested a note setting out some details on the reason why St John's House Bootle PFI Benchmarking exercise took 25 months.

  In fact, this is addressed by the NAO in paragraph 2.13 of their Report, which sets out that: "In the case of St John's House, Bootle, the benchmarking took 25 months as the public sector rejected the proposed 16 per cent increase in the price of services as this would have exceeded the cap on the services element portion of the quarterly Unitary Service Charge."

  In addition, as table 16 indicated there was some difficulty in agreeing the comparative data for the benchmarking exercise, and this may have also contributed to the timescale.

  It should be noted that the proposed 16% price increase was successfully opposed by the public sector and the final outcome was that there was no change in the price and no change to the services. As table 11 (p18) shows, the NAO's assessment of this outcome was that it was likely to have achieved value for money.

Question 94 (Mr Richard Bacon): Projection for the aggregate future cash outlays expected under Private Finance Initiative contracts

  You asked us to break this down into projections for the total of expected annual payments for PFI deals:

    —  up until 2031-32; and

    —  beyond 2031-32.

EXPECTED PAYMENTS UP UNTIL 2031-32

  The aggregate amount of cash to be paid out under the unitary charge payable on all signed PFI deals (subject to benchmarking or market testing of the relevant portions of the contract) covering the period up until 2031-32 is published in the Budget document and Pre-Budget Report each year. The relevant table from this year's Budget is Table C19:

Table C19

ESTIMATED PAYMENTS UNDER PFI CONTRACTS—MARCH 2007 (SIGNED DEALS)1
£ billion
Projections
2006-076.92019-20 5.8
2007-087.32020-21 5.9
2008-097.82021-22 5.5
2009-108.22022-23 5.4
2010-118.52023-24 5.4
2011-128.62024-25 5.4
2012-138.72025-26 5.2
2013-148.82026-27 5.0
2014-158.82027-28 4.8
2015-168.82028-29 4.5
2016-178.92029-30 4.2
2017-188.22030-31 3.8
2018-195.82031-32 3.4


  1  The figures between 2006-07 and 2017-18 include estimated payments for the LUL PPP PFI contract. These contracts contain periodic reviews every 7.5 years and therefore the service payments are not fixed after 2009-10.

  These projections are in nominal terms and so incorporate the inflation assumptions built into contracts.

EXPECTED PAYMENTS AFTER 2031-32

  The projected aggregate PFI payments for 2032-33 and 2033-34 are £3.0 billion and £2.7 billion respectively. HM Treasury does not hold data for the period after 2033-34, and so does not make projections beyond that date.

TOTAL FUTURE PFI PAYMENTS

  The numbers presented here are the projected aggregate future cashflows under signed deals. The figures are in nominal terms, not today's money, and thus adding them together does not produce a meaningful figure. For the avoidance of doubt it would not be correct to refer to these projections as additional to Public Sector Net Debt (PSND), not least since many of these liabilities (where the relevant project is on the public sector's balance sheet) are already included within PSND.





 
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