Select Committee on Science and Technology Written Evidence


MEMORANDUM 31

Submission from Professor John Wood, ex Chief Executive of the former Council for the Central Laboratories of the Research Councils (CCLRC)

PERSONAL EVIDENCE TO THE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY SELECT COMMITTEE'S INQUIRY INTO THE INTERNATIONAL POLICIES AND ACTIVITIES OF THE RESEARCH COUNCIL

  CCLRC was merged with PPARC from April 2007 and so I am not able to give a corporate response to the inquiry. This response is an entirely personal one based on my time as chief executive of CCLRC over the past six years. It does not necessarily represent the view of the new STFC.

  CCLRC had responsibility for the provision of light sources (synchrotrons and lasers) and neutrons for UK researchers and overseas users. In addition, it had major programmes funded by third parties (mainly other research councils) in the areas of particle physics, space science and technology, high performance computing. It had three main centres in the UK; Daresbury Laboratory, Rutherford-Appleton Laboratory and Chilbolton. In addition, it held the UK shareholding in the Diamond Light Source (86%), and in ILL and ESRF both sited in Grenoble. Through its programmes and facilities CCLRC had extensive international interactions and the researchers were engaged in undertaking joint research with other similar laboratories around the world. In some cases staff may be located at such facilities overseas for several years when critical experiments were in progress. In addition, many of the staff acted as advisers to international facilities during construction and subsequent operation.

  A number of bi-lateral arrangements had been made with international bodies to provide specific facilities. An example of this is the long term collaboration with Riken in Japan for muon research on the ISIS facility. Other examples include the provision of specific pieces of equipment to the CCLRC in exchange for general access to facilities. Also there is much loaning of key equipment between collaborating laboratories (eg key components of the Energy Recovery Linac Project currently under construction at Daresbury laboratory have been provided by the Jefferson Laboratory in the USA. They have also provided invaluable technical advice).

  A key aspect of the CCLRC's mission was to develop strategic advice for government on the potential for further investments in facilities within its remit whether built in the UK or elsewhere. It is generally recognised that all new major facilities will have to be built with international partners in the future because of their high cost. This involves negotiations that take a number of years to complete in order to allow all the various interested countries to finally make a commitment. This is a special problem for European facilities and does put us at a disadvantage compared with large countries such as the USA and China who can take unilateral decisions. It is vital that the UK maintains a constant position with a professional negotiating team that does not continually change direction or looses international expertise due to the movement of critical personnel. It is also clear that such people need scientific credibility if they are to be taken seriously elsewhere.

STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES OF EXISTING RC AND OSI MECHANISMS.

  A key strength is the provision of the large facilities capital fund that can support a number of projects over several years. Currently this stands at about £100 million per year and has remained constant for most of the past six years. While this fund is very welcome it is not sufficient for the wide range of activities the UK wishes to be involved in. Some thought ought to be taken whether this sum should now be increased in line with the general increase in the Research Council funding. Capital projects often take several years to arrive at the point where the full financial commitment becomes clear. Until this point is reached preliminary research and design studies are necessary to find technical solutions and to confirm the final design. Groups from several countries accept to undertake specific work-packages as part of their commitment. CCLRC did not have any significant unallocated funds to participate in these or to lead them in the past. Hence the UK has not attracted any international science facility to the UK since JET. Early participation can "win"" the high ground.

  The NAO report on investment in large scientific facilities draws attention to the problems of estimating the running costs at the start of construction. This is a problem for all countries and early commitment from any country to funding its share is unrealistic. The approach taken by the ESRF in Grenoble which allowed countries to make indicative contributions at the start with a mechanism for paying more if the usage by one country increases is probably the most appropriate mechanism. The current issue with the European X-Ray Free Electron Laser (X-FEL) in Germany is a case where no country is willing to give even an indicative operating contribution since the full range of its potential when it is built is unclear and will not become clear until the first phase is up and running. We know that an increase in light intensity by nine orders of magnitude beyond existing synchrotron sources coupled with very short time resolutions is likely to realise dramatic results in many areas of science. Just which will prove most fruitful at the start is not possible to predict accurately.

  There is also ambiguity as to where key decisions are made. Ultimately funding for a new large international facility will come from the financial ministries in the partner countries. The recent example of the XFEL is an example of the difficulties faced. Germany originally offered to contribute 60% of the original capital costs and 50% of the running costs. After two years of planning based on the original design, no other country has yet made a firm commitment due to internal procedural problems. The UK was the first to signify its intention to commit around 12 months ago but no binding commitment has actually been made to date.

  A more concerning example is that of the next generation spallation neutron source for Europe. Some 18 months ago I submitted the CCRLC's strategic advice to the minister on this subject with a private communication of what was needed in practice for the UK to maintain its leading position in this area. This was the result of 18 months consultation with the user community and taking advice from a number of international experts. Subsequently I kept the minister informed of the international activity especially with respect to the position of other countries that were beginning to firm up their offers to host such a facility. It was widely expected that the UK would declare its position to offer to host the next facility and considerable support was received in private discussions from a number of the key countries in Europe. Now that no statement has been officially made by the UK two other countries have made offers to host it. One, Spain, has stated that it will put up 50% of the capital costs taken from its EU structural funds. Given this situation, any offer from the UK will have to be attractive enough to other countries. This will now be difficult to achieve. The key question is how such an offer can be made in a timely way within the UK system. CCLRC at a meeting of its Council did declare that it would like to host the facility at the Rutherford-Appleton Laboratory. However, it could not make any statement that the funds would be available.

  The key issue concerns projects in which the UK wishes to lead and host. Since it is so long since such a decision has been made, it is not clear how the inertia can be overcome. There is considerable frustration from our potential partners that we have this problem. Of course, the UK can always let other countries take the lead. Given the overwhelming evidence of the socio-economic advantages of hosting such facilities this seems to fly in the face of the current innovation agenda.

  The recent publication of the European Strategy Forum for Research Infrastructures (ESFRI) had highlighted 35 potential European facilities needed by researchers. All the member states are now assessing their positions on these. If the current decision making system remains in place then there is a good chance the UK will be left behind and reduced to managing some of the smaller projects that are effectively mega-networks. RCUK is, I understand, looking at the 35 projects at the moment and intends to signify its priorities soon. It is critical that decisions based on these recommendations are acted on quickly. CCLRC has already been collaborating for many years on some of the projects and it would be unfortunate if we had to withdraw at this stage. There is a great danger that our international credibility will be jeopardised if this is not handled in a sensitive and diplomatic manner. The repercussions of the decision by the UK to reduce its contribution to ILL in Grenoble to 25% many years ago is still held against us although it was restored to 33% under the CCLRC. This is not to say that projects should not be reviewed, but that random changes in thinking and a lack of continuity of personnel with little knowledge of the history of a project can lead to significant consequences.

EU AGENCIES AND THE FP7 PROGRAMME

  Under previous FP programmes the CCLRC ability to attract projects was effectively restricted by the Euro-DEL cap. At one time the CCLRC management board had to spend a considerable time checking each project proposal to assure itself that subsequent "fines" were not to be levied against us. Projects that the CCLRC was the obvious lead partner had to be handed to minor partners for fear of significant financial claw back. This significantly affected our credibility. While this cap is no longer a problem, it has caused some difficulties in taking the lead on projects under FP7 since there remains a belief among partners that we will not lead. A key test case currently under consideration is with the EU's programme to support "preparatory design studies" for large scale infrastructure under FP7.

  CCLRC supported the creation of the ERC from the beginning since it believed that excellent research should be undertaken on its facilities wherever the researcher is based. I was disappointed that the funding for trans-national access under FP6 for funding researchers from all parts of the EU to use ISIS was insufficient for the demand.

  The CCLRC could not see the original rationale behind the suggestion of an EIT. In order to offset the original proposal for a distinct institute, I suggested to a number of similar large scale laboratories that we formed a grouping to show that at least part of what the EIT was meant to achieve already existed. Over a year ago we formed the European Large Research Facilities association (ERF). This is currently chaired by the Director General of DESY in Germany and CCLRC provide the secretariat. A coupling has been made with the "Ideas League"" (a group of top university engineering faculties across Europe) and I have been asked to submit an outline "call for proposals"" to the EU for some preliminary pilot Knowledge and Innovation Centres (KICs). The Commission is fully conversant on all these activities and encouraged us to take them forward.

  OSI International have had several meetings with CCLRC on the European and wider international scene. These have not been systematic and there have been times when we have not always known what the official UK position has been. It is my contention that far more effort needs to be put into providing a joined up position on a number of international research issues.

OTHER INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMMES.

  CCLRC is actively involved in projects around the world. It took on the coordination role for acting as the UK centre for energy, nanotechnology and space science between the UK and Korea following the Minister's lead. More recently several meetings have been held in China specifically on lasers, neutrons and space and ongoing programmes are in place. CCLRC used to regularly brief the FCO science attaches on the international links and now there is a good rapport with the FCO Science and Innovation Network team. CCLRC, from the start, were very supportive of an office in China. We were encouraged in this by Prof Zang who was the deputy director of basic science at the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Prof Zang had worked previously at RAL for a number of years and was entirely conversant with our position.

  CCLRC staff have excellent personal links with international partners at both laboratory and government levels. The most obvious of these is the partnership on a number of programmes with the DoE national laboratories in the US and with Dr Ray Orbach. A similar situation exists with Riken in Japan. Much more advantage could be taken by the UK Government in exploiting these links. Apart from the DTI and FCO there are relatively few links with other ministries with respect to international activities.

MOBILITY OF RESEARCHERS

  The concerns about the EU funding for trans-national access have already been stated. CCLRC had virtually no funds to pay for other international partners to come to its facilities unless these were covered by the home nation. The absence of free funds was frustrating in this respect.

SUMMARY

  CCLRC as an overarching body was not generally recognised by international scientists. RAL, Daresbury, ISIS etc on the other hand were well known and respected. However, CCLRC was seen by other government agencies as a way of bringing large facilities together and this was looked at enviously by many others in Europe where each facility is fighting others in the same country. It was a unique advantage that there was one voice for this area.

May 2007





 
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