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Public Bill Committee: 22nd November 2007                

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“(a)    

A has met or communicated with another person (B) on at

 

least two occasions and subsequently—

 

(i)    

A intentionally meets B,

 

(ii)    

A travels with the intention of meeting B in any part

 

of the world or arranges to meet B in any part of the

 

world, or

 

(iii)    

B travels with the intention of meeting A in any part

 

of the world,

 

(b)    

A intends to do anything to or in respect of B, during or after

 

the meeting mentioned in paragraph (a)(i) to (iii) and in any

 

part of the world, which if done will involve the commission

 

by A of a relevant offence,”.

 

Adoption

 

2          

The Sexual Offences Act 2003 (c. 42) has effect subject to the following

 

amendments.

 

3          

In section 27(1)(b) (family relationships) after “but for” insert “section 39 of

 

the Adoption Act 1976 or”.

 

4          

In section 29(1)(b) (sections 25 and 26: sexual relationships which pre-date

 

family relationships) after “if” insert “section 39 of the Adoption Act 1976 or”.

 

5    (1)  

Section 64 (sex with an adult relative: penetration) is amended as follows.

 

      (2)  

In subsection (1) after “(A)” insert “(subject to subsection (3A))”.

 

      (3)  

In subsection (3) after “In subsection (2)—” insert—

 

“(za)    

“parent” includes an adoptive parent;

 

(zb)    

“child” includes an adopted person within the meaning of

 

Chapter 4 of Part 1 of the Adoption and Children Act 2002;”.

 

      (4)  

After that subsection insert—

 

“(3A)    

Where subsection (1) applies in a case where A is related to B as B’s

 

child by virtue of subsection (3)(zb), A does not commit an offence

 

under this section unless A is 18 or over.”

 

      (5)  

After subsection (5) insert—

 

“(6)    

Nothing in—

 

(a)    

section 47 of the Adoption Act 1976 (which disapplies the

 

status provisions in section 39 of that Act for the purposes of

 

this section in relation to adoptions before 30 December

 

2005), or

 

(b)    

section 74 of the Adoption and Children Act 2002 (which

 

disapplies the status provisions in section 67 of that Act for

 

those purposes in relation to adoptions on or after that date),

 

    

is to be read as preventing the application of section 39 of the

 

Adoption Act 1976 or section 67 of the Adoption and Children Act

 

2002 for the purposes of subsection (3)(za) and (zb) above.”

 

6    (1)  

Section 65 (sex with an adult relative: consenting to penetration) is amended

 

as follows.

 

      (2)  

In subsection (1) after “(A)” insert “(subject to subsection (3A))”.

 

      (3)  

In subsection (3) after “In subsection (2)—” insert—

 

“(za)    

“parent” includes an adoptive parent;

 

(zb)    

“child” includes an adopted person within the meaning of

 

Chapter 4 of Part 1 of the Adoption and Children Act 2002;”.

 

      (4)  

After that subsection insert—


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 22nd November 2007                

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“(3A)    

Where subsection (1) applies in a case where A is related to B as B’s

 

child by virtue of subsection (3)(zb), A does not commit an offence

 

under this section unless A is 18 or over.”

 

      (5)  

After subsection (5) insert—

 

“(6)    

Nothing in—

 

(a)    

section 47 of the Adoption Act 1976 (which disapplies the

 

status provisions in section 39 of that Act for the purposes of

 

this section in relation to adoptions before 30 December

 

2005), or

 

(b)    

section 74 of the Adoption and Children Act 2002 (which

 

disapplies the status provisions in section 67 of that Act for

 

those purposes in relation to adoptions on or after that date),

 

    

is to be read as preventing the application of section 39 of the

 

Adoption Act 1976 or section 67 of the Adoption and Children Act

 

2002 for the purposes of subsection (3)(za) and (zb) above.”

 

7          

In section 47(1) of the Adoption Act 1976 (c. 36) (disapplication of section 39

 

(status conferred by adoption) for the purposes of miscellaneous enactments)

 

for “sections 10 and 11 (incest) of the Sexual Offences Act 1956” substitute

 

“or sections 64 and 65 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (sex with an adult

 

relative)”.’.

 


 

Mr David Hanson

 

NS4

 

To move the following Schedule:—

 

‘Section 327A of the Criminal Justice Act 2003: meaning of “child sex offence”

 

            

The following is the Schedule to be inserted as Schedule 34A to the Criminal

 

Justice Act 2003 (c. 44)—

 

“Schedule 34A

 

Child sex offences for purposes of section 327A

 

Offences under provisions repealed by Sexual Offences Act 2003

 

1          

An offence under—

 

(a)    

section 5 or 6 of the Sexual Offences Act 1956 (intercourse

 

with girl under 13 or 16), or

 

(b)    

section 28 of that Act (causing or encouraging the

 

prostitution of, intercourse with or indecent assault on girl

 

under 16).

 

2          

An offence under any of—

 

(a)    

section 1 of that Act (rape),

 

(b)    

section 10 of that Act (incest by a man), and

 

(c)    

sections 12 to 16 of that Act (buggery, indecency between

 

men, indecent assault and assault with intent to commit

 

buggery),

 

            

where the victim or (as the case may be) the other party was under

 

18 at the time of the offence.


 
 

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3          

An offence under section 1 of the Indecency with Children Act

 

1960 (indecent conduct towards child under 14).

 

4          

An offence under section 9 of the Theft Act 1968 of burglary with

 

intent to commit rape where the intended offence was an offence

 

against a person under 18.

 

5          

An offence under section 54 of the Criminal Law Act 1977

 

(incitement of child under 16 to commit incest).

 

6          

An offence under section 3 of the Sexual Offences (Amendment)

 

Act 2000 (abuse of position of trust).

 

Other offences

 

7          

An offence under any of—

 

(a)    

sections 5 to 8 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (rape and

 

other offences against children under 13),

 

(b)    

sections 9 to 15 of that Act (child sex offences),

 

(c)    

sections 16 to 19 of that Act (abuse of position of trust),

 

(d)    

sections 25 and 26 of that Act (familial child sex offences),

 

and

 

(e)    

sections 47 to 50 of that Act (abuse of children through

 

prostitution and pornography).

 

8          

An offence under any of—

 

(a)    

sections 1 to 4 of that Act (rape, assault and causing sexual

 

activity without consent),

 

(b)    

sections 30 to 41 of that Act (persons with a mental

 

disorder impeding choice, inducements etc to persons with

 

a mental disorder, and care workers for persons with a

 

mental disorder), and

 

(c)    

section 61 of that Act (administering a substance with

 

intent),

 

            

where the victim of the offence was under 18 at the time of the

 

offence.

 

9          

An offence under section 62 or 63 of that Act (committing an

 

offence with intent to commit a sexual offence and trespass with

 

intent to commit a sexual offence) where the intended offence was

 

an offence against a person under 18.

 

10         

An offence under section 66 or 67 of that Act (exposure and

 

voyeurism) where the victim or intended victim of the offence was

 

under 18 at the time of the offence.

 

11         

An offence under—

 

(a)    

section 1 of the Protection of Children Act 1978 (indecent

 

photographs of children), or

 

(b)    

section 160 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (possession of

 

indecent photograph of child).

 

12         

An offence under section 170 of the Customs and Excise

 

Management Act 1979 (penalty for fraudulent evasion of duty etc)

 

in relation to goods prohibited to be imported under section 42 of

 

the Customs Consolidation Act 1876 (indecent or obscene articles)


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 22nd November 2007                

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where the prohibited goods included any indecent photograph

 

showing a person under 18.

 

13         

An offence under section 64 of the Criminal Justice and

 

Immigration Act 2008 (possession of extreme pornographic

 

images) in relation to an image showing a person under 18.

 

General

 

14         

A reference in this Schedule to an offence (“offence A”) includes—

 

(a)    

a reference to an attempt to commit offence A,

 

(b)    

a reference to a conspiracy to commit offence A,

 

(c)    

a reference to incitement to commit offence A,

 

(d)    

a reference to an offence under Part 2 of the Serious Crime

 

Act 2007 in relation to which offence A is the offence (or

 

one of the offences) which the person intended or believed

 

would be committed, and

 

(e)    

a reference to aiding and abetting, counselling or procuring

 

the commission of offence A.

 

15         

A reference in this Schedule to an offence (“offence A”) includes—

 

(a)    

a reference to an offence under section 70 of the Army Act

 

1955, section 70 of the Air Force Act 1955 or section 42 of

 

the Naval Discipline Act 1957 as respects which the

 

corresponding civil offence (within the meaning given by

 

the section in question) is offence A, and

 

(b)    

a reference to an offence under section 42 of the Armed

 

Forces Act 2006 as respects which the corresponding

 

offence under the law of England and Wales (within the

 

meaning given by that section) is offence A.”.’.

 


 

Mr David Hanson

 

NS5

 

To move the following Schedule:—

 

‘Penalties suitable for enforcement in England and Wales or Northern

 

Ireland

 

Person residing in England and Wales

 

1          

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in England and Wales if the

 

certificate states that the person required to pay the penalty is normally resident

 

in England and Wales.

 

Person residing in Northern Ireland

 

2          

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in Northern Ireland if the

 

certificate states that the person required to pay the penalty is normally resident

 

in Northern Ireland.


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 22nd November 2007                

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Person having property etc. in England and Wales

 

3          

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in England and Wales if—

 

(a)    

the certificate states that the person required to pay the penalty has

 

property or a source of income in England and Wales, and

 

(b)    

the certificate does not state—

 

(i)    

that the person has property or a source of income in Northern

 

Ireland or Scotland, or

 

(ii)    

that the person is normally resident in the United Kingdom.

 

Person having property etc. in Northern Ireland

 

4          

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in Northern Ireland if—

 

(a)    

the certificate states that the person required to pay the penalty has

 

property or a source of income in Northern Ireland, and

 

(b)    

the certificate does not state—

 

(i)    

that the person has property or a source of income in England

 

and Wales or Scotland, or

 

(ii)    

that the person is normally resident in the United Kingdom.

 

Person having property etc. in England and Wales and Northern Ireland

 

5    (1)  

This paragraph applies if—

 

(a)    

the certificate states that the person required to pay the penalty has

 

property or a source of income in England and Wales,

 

(b)    

the certificate also states that the person has property or a source of

 

income in Northern Ireland, and

 

(c)    

the certificate does not state —

 

(i)    

that the person has property or a source of income in Scotland,

 

or

 

(ii)    

that the person is normally resident in the United Kingdom.

 

      (2)  

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in England and Wales unless

 

it is suitable for enforcement in Northern Ireland by virtue of sub-paragraph

 

(3).

 

      (3)  

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in Northern Ireland if the

 

Lord Chancellor thinks that it is more appropriate for the penalty to be

 

enforced in Northern Ireland than in England and Wales.

 

Person having property etc. in England and Wales and Scotland

 

6    (1)  

This paragraph applies if—

 

(a)    

the certificate states that the person required to pay the penalty has

 

property or a source of income in England and Wales,

 

(b)    

the certificate also states that the person has property or a source of

 

income in Scotland, and

 

(c)    

the certificate does not state —

 

(i)    

that the person has property or a source of income in Northern

 

Ireland, or

 

(ii)    

that the person is normally resident in the United Kingdom.

 

      (2)  

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in England and Wales unless

 

sub-paragraph (3) applies.

 

      (3)  

This sub-paragraph applies if—


 
 

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(a)    

the Lord Chancellor was given the certificate by the competent

 

authority or central authority of another member State (and not by the

 

central authority for Scotland), and

 

(b)    

the Lord Chancellor thinks that it is more appropriate for the financial

 

penalty to be enforced in Scotland than in England and Wales.

 

Person having property etc. in Northern Ireland and Scotland

 

7    (1)  

This paragraph applies if—

 

(a)    

the certificate states that the person required to pay the penalty has

 

property or a source of income in Northern Ireland,

 

(b)    

the certificate also states that the person has property or a source of

 

income in Scotland, and

 

(c)    

the certificate does not state —

 

(i)    

that the person has property or a source of income in England

 

and Wales, or

 

(ii)    

that the person is normally resident in the United Kingdom.

 

      (2)  

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in Northern Ireland unless

 

sub-paragraph (3) applies.

 

      (3)  

This sub-paragraph applies if—

 

(a)    

the Lord Chancellor was given the certificate by the competent

 

authority or central authority of another member State (and not by the

 

central authority for Scotland), and

 

(b)    

the Lord Chancellor thinks that it is more appropriate for the financial

 

penalty to be enforced in Scotland than in Northern Ireland.

 

Person having property etc. in England and Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland

 

8    (1)  

This paragraph applies if—

 

(a)    

the certificate states that the person required to pay the penalty has

 

property or a source of income in Northern Ireland,

 

(b)    

the certificate also states that the person has property or a source of

 

income in England and Wales and in Scotland, and

 

(c)    

the certificate does not state that the person is normally resident in the

 

United Kingdom.

 

      (2)  

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in England and Wales

 

unless—

 

(a)    

the penalty is suitable for enforcement in Northern Ireland by virtue of

 

sub-paragraph (3) or (4), or

 

(b)    

sub-paragraph (5) applies.

 

      (3)  

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in Northern Ireland if—

 

(a)    

the Lord Chancellor was given the certificate by the competent

 

authority or central authority of another member State (and not by the

 

central authority for Scotland),

 

(b)    

the Lord Chancellor thinks that it is more appropriate for the financial

 

penalty to be enforced in Northern Ireland than in England and Wales

 

or Scotland.

 

      (4)  

The financial penalty is suitable for enforcement in Northern Ireland if—

 

(a)    

the Lord Chancellor was given the certificate by the central authority

 

for Scotland, and

 

(b)    

the Lord Chancellor thinks that it is more appropriate for the financial

 

penalty to be enforced in Northern Ireland than in England and Wales.


 
 

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      (5)  

The sub-paragraph applies if—

 

(a)    

the Lord Chancellor was given the certificate by the competent

 

authority or central authority of another member State (and not by the

 

central authority for Scotland), and

 

(b)    

the Lord Chancellor thinks that it is more appropriate for the financial

 

penalty to be enforced in Scotland than in England and Wales or

 

Northern Ireland.

 

Interpretation

 

9          

Where the person is a body corporate, this Schedule applies as if—

 

(a)    

the reference in paragraph 1 to the person being normally resident in

 

England and Wales were a reference to the person having its registered

 

office in England and Wales,

 

(b)    

the reference in paragraph 2 to the person being normally resident in

 

Northern Ireland were a reference to the person having its registered

 

office in Northern Ireland, and

 

(c)    

any reference to the person being normally resident in the United

 

Kingdom were a reference to the person having its registered office in

 

the United Kingdom.’.

 


 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Mr Nick Hurd

 

200

 

Title,  line  8,  after ‘criminality;’, insert ‘to amend the Extradition Act 2003;’.

 

 

Mr David Hanson

 

That certain written evidence already reported to the House be appended to the

 

proceedings of the Committee.

 

 

orders of the house [8th and 11th OCTOBER] 2007

 

That the following provisions shall apply to the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill:

 

Committal

 

1.    

The Bill shall be committed to a Public Bill Committee.

 

Proceedings in Public Bill Committee

 

2.    

Proceedings in the Public Bill Committee shall (so far as not previously

 

concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Thursday 29th November 2007.

 

3.    

The Public Bill Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on

 

which it meets.


 
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