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House of Commons

 
 

Thursday 31st January 2008

 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

 

Pensions Bill


 

[eleventh and twelfth Sittings]


 

Mr Mike O’Brien

 

Not selected  151

 

Page  18,  line  21,  leave out Clause 42.

 

Clause Disagreed to.

 


 

Mr Mike O’Brien

 

Agreed to  152

 

Clause  43,  page  19,  line  21,  leave out from first ‘planning’ to end of line 22 and

 

insert ‘and “the Northern Ireland Department” have the same meaning as in paragraph

 

2.”’.

 

Mr Mike O’Brien

 

Agreed to  153

 

Clause  43,  page  19,  line  22,  at end add—

 

‘(1A)    

Section 323 of the Pensions Act 2004 (c. 35) (extent) is amended as follows.

 

(1B)    

In subsection (2)(c) (provisions extending to Northern Ireland)—

 

(a)    

for “paragraph 2” substitute “paragraphs 2 and 4”;

 

(b)    

for “that paragraph” substitute “those paragraphs”.

 

(1C)    

In subsection (4), for “paragraph 2” substitute “paragraphs 2 and 4”.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clause 44 Agreed to.

 



 
 

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Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Not selected  63

 

Clause  45,  page  20,  line  6,  at end add—

 

‘(cb)    

to fund the set-up costs incurred by the duties under Chapter 1 of Part 1

 

of the Pensions Act 2008 from the Consolidated Fund.’.

 

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Danny Alexander

 

Paul Rowen

 

 

Not selected  98

 

Clause  46,  page  20,  line  31,  at end add—

 

‘(6)    

An applicant for a job has the right not to be refused employment on grounds

 

relating to pension scheme membership.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clauses 47 and 48 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Mike O’Brien

 

Agreed to  156

 

Clause  49,  page  22,  line  34,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

The fact that an agreement is to any extent void under subsection (1) does not

 

entitle the employer to recover any property transferred, or the value of any

 

benefit conferred, as an inducement to enter into, or otherwise in connection with,

 

the agreement.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Danny Alexander

 

Paul Rowen

 

 

Withdrawn  99

 

Clause  50,  page  24,  line  10,  leave out from ‘State’ to ‘and’ and insert ‘shall

 

establish a money purchase scheme’.


 
 

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Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Negatived on division  25

 

Clause  50,  page  24,  line  10,  after ‘scheme’, insert ‘which shall commence

 

operation with effect from 1st April 2012’.

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Withdrawn  157

 

Clause  50,  page  24,  line  13,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

A scheme established under this section shall not be subject to the requirements

 

to obtain audited accounts and an auditor’s statement about contributions under

 

regulations made pursuant to section 41 of the Pensions Act 1995.

 

( )    

The Secretary of State may make regulations requiring that the trustees of a

 

scheme established under this section—

 

(a)    

make a declaration regarding the scheme systems and controls, and

 

(b)    

appoint a reporting accountant to review the scheme’s systems and

 

controls and obtain a statement from such reporting accounting about

 

their design and operation.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Withdrawn  26

 

Clause  51,  page  25,  line  15,  leave out subsection (5).

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Danny Alexander

 

Paul Rowen

 

Withdrawn  154

 

Clause  52,  page  25,  line  26,  leave out subsection (3) and insert—

 

‘(3)    

The Members’ Panel is to consist of such members and future members, or

 

persons representing the interests of members and future members, as the trustees

 

may appoint.

 

(3A)    

The trustees must appoint one of the members of the Members’ Panel to be the

 

chairman of the Panel.

 

(3B)    

The trustees must secure that the membership of the Members’ Panel is such as

 

to:

 

(a)    

give a fair degree of representation to members and future members; and


 
 

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Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

(b)    

respect diversity among members and future members of the scheme.

 

(3C)    

The chairman and other members of the Members’ Panel are to be—

 

(a)    

appointed for a fixed period, and on other terms and conditions,

 

determined by the trustees, and

 

(b)    

paid by the trustees in accordance with provision made by or under the

 

terms of appointment.

 

(3D)    

But a person may be removed from office in accordance with those terms and

 

conditions only with the approval of the Secretary of State.

 

(3E)    

A person who ceases to be a chairman or another member of the Members’ Panel

 

may be re-appointed.

 

(3F)    

Representations by the Members’ Panel—

 

(a)    

the Trustees must consider any representations made to it by the

 

Members’ Panel.

 

(b)    

if the Trustees disagree with a view expressed, or proposal made, in the

 

representations, it must give the Members’ Panel a notice to that effect

 

stating its reasons for disagreeing.

 

(c)    

the Members’ Panel may publish such information as it thinks fit about

 

any representations made by it to the trustees.

 

(d)    

where the Members’ Panel publishes information about any

 

representations made by it, the trustees must publish any notice it gives

 

under subsection (2) in respect of those representations.

 

(3G)    

Advice and research functions of the Members’ Panel—

 

(a)    

The Members’ Panel may, at the request of the trustees—

 

(i)    

carry out research for the trustees;

 

(ii)    

give advice to the trustees.

 

(b)    

The trustees must consider any advice given and the results of any

 

research carried out under this section.

 

(c)    

the Members’ Panel may publish such information as it thinks fit about

 

advice it gives, and about the results of research carried out by it, under

 

this section.

 

Danny Alexander

 

Paul Rowen

 

Not called  115

 

Clause  52,  page  25,  line  26,  leave out ‘panels are’ and insert ‘employers panel is’.

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Not called  27

 

Clause  52,  page  25,  line  26,  leave out ‘by order under section 50, or’.

 

Danny Alexander

 

Paul Rowen

 

Not called  101

 

Clause  52,  page  25,  line  27,  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

The members’ panel shall be comprised of members of the scheme nominated

 

and selected by a process including all the members of the scheme or an

 

organisation representing the members.’.


 
 

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Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Not called  64

 

Clause  52,  page  25,  line  28,  after ‘panel’, insert ‘and employers’ panel’.

 

 

Danny Alexander

 

Paul Rowen

 

Not called  155

 

Clause  52,  page  25,  line  30,  leave out subsection 5.

 

Danny Alexander

 

Paul Rowen

 

 

Withdrawn  100

 

Clause  52,  page  25,  line  31,  at end add—

 

‘(6)    

The Secretary of State must provide the panels with—

 

(a)    

an annual report considering the impact of means-tested benefits on

 

members of the scheme established under section 50,

 

(b)    

an annual report assessing the quality of qualifying schemes’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Danny Alexander

 

Paul Rowen

 

Not selected  102

 

Clause  53,  page  25,  line  33,  leave out subsection (1) and insert—

 

‘(1)    

Member contributions shall be limited to £10,000 in the first year of the scheme

 

and £3,600 for each following year’.

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Withdrawn  28

 

Clause  53,  page  25,  line  34,  at end insert ‘save that the employers’ contribution

 

shall be fixed at 3 per cent. of the amount of jobholders’ qualifying earnings in any pay

 

reference period.’.

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Not selected  76

 

Clause  53,  page  25,  line  34,  at end insert ‘of £3,600’.


 
 

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Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Withdrawn  77

 

Clause  53,  page  25,  line  34,  at end insert—

 

‘(1A)    

The Secretary of State must in each tax year from 2005 determine whether the

 

amount prescribed in subsection (1) has maintained its value.

 

(1B)    

If the average earnings index (including bonuses) for the whole economy for

 

September of a year is higher than the index for the previous September, the

 

Secretary of State shall as soon as practicable make an order in relation to the

 

amount in section (1), increasing the amount, if the new index is higher, by the

 

same percentage as the amount of the increase of the index.’.

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Not called  29

 

Clause  53,  page  26,  line  1,  leave out subsection (3) and insert—

 

‘(3)    

There shall be an absolute prohibition on transfers between the pension scheme

 

established under section 50 and other pension or savings schemes, and jobholder

 

contributions shall be limited to £3,600 in any one year.’.

 

Danny Alexander

 

Paul Rowen

 

Not called  103

 

Clause  53,  page  26,  line  1,  leave out subsection (3) and insert—

 

‘(3)    

A member may make payments that are not contributions for the purposes of

 

provision under subsection (1) up to a maximum of 2 per cent. of the standard

 

lifetime allowance’.

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Not called  30

 

Clause  53,  page  26,  line  1,  leave out subsection (3).

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Not called  58

 

Clause  53,  page  26,  line  6,  leave out subsection (5).

 

Clause Agreed to.


 
 

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Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

Clause 54 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Withdrawn  31

 

Clause  55,  page  26,  line  19,  leave out ‘have regard to’ and insert ‘take account of’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 56 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Withdrawn  32

 

Clause  57,  page  27,  line  12,  leave out subsection (3).

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Mr John Greenway

 

Not selected  53

 

Schedule  1,  page  49,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘(c)    

the appointment of any member of the corporation shall be approved by

 

the Work and Pensions Committee of the House of Commons.’.

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Stewart Jackson

 

Miss Julie Kirkbride

 

Withdrawn  54

 

Schedule  1,  page  49,  line  14,  at end insert ‘of which at least three members shall be

 

appointed to represent the interests of members and prospective members.’.


 
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