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Mr Tony McNulty

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Clause  20,  page  15,  line  35,  at end insert—

‘( )	Schedule (Disclosure and the intelligence services: consequential amendments)

contains amendments consequential on that section.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

12

Page  16,  line  14,  leave out Clause 22.

Mr Tony McNulty

75

Schedule  1,  page  70,  line  3,  after ‘(5)’ insert ‘to (7)’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

13

Page  61,  line  2,  leave out Schedule 1.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

14

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  25,  after ‘offence’, insert ‘, at any time up to the

commencement of the trial,’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

15

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  26,  leave out ‘or’ and insert ‘and’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

17

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  32,  at end insert—

‘(iii)

has, after satisfying himself that the original charge was

appropriate and that further questioning would be in the interests

of justice, given authority for the constable to question the

person.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

16

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  34,  leave out ‘may’ and insert ‘must’.

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Mr David Heath

18

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  35,  at end insert—

‘(4A)

Codes of practice made under subsection (4) must include provision for—

(a)	questioning to take place only in the presence of a lawyer representing

the interests of the accused person;

(b)	a transcript to be made available to the judge authorising the questioning

under subsection (3);

(c)	the questioning to be subject to a video recording;

(d)	for the purpose of the questioning to be confined to questioning about

new evidence which has become available since the accused person was

charged; and

(e)	preventing oppressive questioning by specifying appropriate time limits.

(4B)	Prior to the commencement of the trial the judge must review any transcripts

made available to him under subsection (4A)(b) having regard to subsections

(4A)(d) and (e).’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

19

Clause  23,  page  17,  line  2,  leave out subsections (6) and (7).

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

21

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  32,  at end insert ‘, at any time up to the commencement of

the trial,’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

22

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  32,  at end insert ‘, and

(c)	a judge of the Crown Court has, after satisfying himself that the original

charge was appropriate and that further questioning would be in the

interests of justice, given authority for the constable to question the

person.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

23

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  34,  leave out ‘may’ and insert ‘must’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

24

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  36,  at end insert—

‘(3A)

Codes of practice made under subsection (3) must include provision for—

(a)	questioning to take place only in the presence of a lawyer representing

the interests of the accused person;

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(b)	a transcript to be made available to the judge authorising the questioning

under subsection (3);

(c)	the questioning to be subject to a video recording;

(d)	for the purpose of the questioning to be confined to questioning about

new evidence which has become available since the accused person was

charged; and

(e)	preventing oppressive questioning by specifying appropriate time limits.

(3B)	Prior to the commencement of the trial the judge must review any transcripts

made available to him under subsection (3A)(b) having regard to subsections

(3A)(d) and (e).’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

25

Clause  25,  page  18,  line  1,  leave out subsections (5) and (6).

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

26

Clause  26,  page  19,  line  11,  at end insert—

(e)	the common law offences of murder, manslaughter, culpable homicide,

kidnapping or abduction, in relation to an offence listed in subsection (1)

above.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

50

Clause  27,  page  20,  line  20,  at end add—

‘(7)	Where this section applies to an offence committed in Scotland, proceedings may

only be taken in another part of the United Kingdom following consultation with,

and with the consent of, the Lord Advocate.’.

Mr Tony McNulty

76

Clause  29,  page  20,  line  32,  after ‘If’ insert ‘having regard to the material before it

for the purposes of sentencing’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

27

Clause  29,  page  20,  line  33,  leave out ‘court’ and insert ‘jury’.

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Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

28

Clause  29,  page  20,  line  37,  leave out ‘determines’ and insert ‘is satisfied beyond

reasonable doubt’.

Mr Tony McNulty

That Clause 45 be transferred to end of line 24 on page 29.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

35

Clause  42,  page  30,  leave out lines 33 to 34.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

33

Clause  42,  page  30,  leave out lines 42 to 44.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

37

Clause  42,  page  31,  leave out lines 4 to 8.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

38

Clause  42,  page  31,  leave out lines 14 to 19.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

36

Clause  42,  page  31,  leave out lines 27 to 32.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

34

Clause  42,  page  31,  leave out lines 38 to 40.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

39

Clause  51,  page  36,  line  8,  leave out ‘an indefinite period’ and insert ‘five years’.

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Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

40

Clause  51,  page  36,  line  44,  at end insert—

‘(1A)

Notification requirements in relation to offences under subsection (1) may be

renewed on one or more occasions if it is considered necessary for purposes

connected with protecting members of the public from a risk of terrorism, for the

notification requirements to continue in force.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

41

Clause  51,  page  36,  line  45,  leave out ‘10’ and insert ‘5’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

42

Clause  51,  page  36,  line  46,  at end insert—

‘(2A)

Notification requirements in relation to offences under subsection (2) may be

renewed on one occasion if it is considered necessary for purposes connected

with protecting members of the public from a risk of terrorism, for the notification

requirements to continue in force.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

43

Clause  51,  page  37,  line  3,  leave out subsection (4).

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

48

Schedule  4,  page  75,  line  25,  at end insert ‘and

(c)	the court exercising jurisdiction under that law has not, in respect of the

corresponding foreign offence, relied on evidence or information

obtained through torture, duress or other means that would render such

evidence or information inadmissible in a court in the United Kingdom.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

32

Clause  64,  page  45,  line  7,  leave out paragraphs (b) and (c).

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Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

29

Page  44,  line  35,  leave out Clause 64.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

30

Page  46,  line  1,  leave out Clause 65.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

31

Page  48,  line  16,  leave out Clause 67.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

44

Clause  69,  page  49,  line  34,  at end insert ‘and

(c)	intends that the information should be useful to a person committing or

preparing an act of terrorism.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

45

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  17,  after ‘State’, insert ‘or a police authority’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

46

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  18,  at end insert—

‘(3A)

In this section “gas” means a hydrocarbon normally in a gaseous form and

intended for use as a fuel.’.

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Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

47

Clause  78,  page  56,  line  6,  at end insert—

‘(4A)

In this section “gas” means a hydrocarbon normally in a gaseous form and

intended for use as a fuel.’.

Mr Tony McNulty

77

Schedule  6,  page  82,  line  26,  at end insert—

	‘Terrorism Act 2000 (c. 11)	In Schedule 8, in paragraph
		29(4)(a) and (c), the words “after
		consulting the Lord Chancellor”.’.

Mr Tony McNulty

78

Schedule  6,  page  83,  column 2, leave out lines 6 and 7 and insert—

‘Regulation 45E(3) and (4).

In Regulation 109—

(a)	paragraph (1)(g) to (i);

(b)	in paragraph (4)(a), the words preceding

paragraph (i);

(c)	paragraph (4)(b) and the word “and”

immediately preceding it.

In Regulation 115(2), “45E(3),”.’.

Mr Tony McNulty

79

Schedule  6,  page  83,  column 2, leave out lines 10 and 11 and insert—

‘Regulation 45D(3) and (4).

In Regulation 108—

(a)	paragraph (1)(g) to (i);

(b)	in paragraph (4)(a), the words preceding

paragraph (i);

(c)	paragraph (4)(b) and the word “and”

immediately preceding it.

In Regulation 115(2), “45D(3),”.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

49

Schedule  6,  page  83,  column 2, leave out lines 26 to 35 and insert ‘the whole Act’.

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