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Public Bill Committee: 29th April 2008                  

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

‘( )    

Schedule (Disclosure and the intelligence services: consequential amendments)

 

contains amendments consequential on that section.’.

 


 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

12

 

Page  16,  line  14,  leave out Clause 22.

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

99

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  61,  line  31,  after ‘give’, insert ‘corroborative’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

100

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  62,  line  1,  leave out sub-sub-paragraph (b).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

101

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  62,  line  15,  leave out ‘diligently and expeditiously’ and insert ‘as

 

diligently and expeditiously as practicable’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

102

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  63,  line  11,  leave out sub-sub-paragraph (b).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

103

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  63,  line  14,  leave out from ‘made’ to end of sub-paragraph.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

104

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  63,  line  37,  leave out ‘7’ and insert ‘2’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

105

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  63,  line  39,  leave out ‘42’ and insert ‘30’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

106

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  64,  line  36,  leave out sub-sub-sub-paragraph (ii).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

107

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  64,  line  41,  leave out sub-sub-sub-paragraph (ii).


 
 

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Patrick Mercer

 

108

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  64,  line  44,  leave out sub-sub-sub-paragraph (ii).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

109

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  65,  line  1,  leave out sub-paragraph (5).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

110

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  65,  line  5,  leave out sub-paragraph (6).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

111

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  65,  line  33,  leave out from ‘detained’ to end of line 35.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

112

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  67,  line  2,  leave out from ‘paragraph’ to end of sub-paragraph.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

113

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  67,  line  40,  leave out sub-sub-paragraph (d).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

114

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  68,  line  3,  leave out sub-paragraph (2).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

115

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  68,  line  28,  leave out ‘judicial authority or’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

116

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  68,  line  33,  leave out ‘judicial authority or’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

117

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  69,  line  1,  leave out ‘judicial authority or’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

118

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  69,  line  14,  leave out sub-sub-sub-paragraph (ii).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

119

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  69,  line  19,  leave out sub-sub-sub-paragraph (ii).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

120

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  69,  line  22,  leave out sub-sub-sub-paragraph (ii).


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 29th April 2008                  

118

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Patrick Mercer

 

121

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  69,  line  25,  leave out sub-paragraph (6).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

122

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  69,  line  29,  leave out sub-paragraph (7).

 

Patrick Mercer

 

123

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  69,  line  37,  leave out paragraph 7.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

124

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  1,  page  70,  line  1,  leave out sub-sub-paragraph (b).

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

75

 

Schedule  1,  page  70,  line  3,  after ‘(5)’ insert ‘to (7)’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

13

 

Page  61,  line  2,  leave out Schedule 1.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

90

 

Parliamentary Star - white    

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  21,  leave out subsection (2) and insert—

 

‘(2)    

Subject to subsections (3) to (6), a constable may question a person about a

 

related terrorism offence where the person has already been charged with, or been

 

officially informed that they may be prosecuted for, a terrorism offence.’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

125

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  21,  leave out subsection (2) and insert—

 

‘(2A)    

Subject to subsections (2B) to (2E) a constable may question a person about a

 

related terrorism offence where the person has already been charged with, or been

 

officially informed that they may be prosecuted for, a terrorism offence.

 

(2B)    

A police officer of at least the rank of superintendent may make an application to

 

a judge of the High Court for permission to allow a constable to question a person

 

under subsection (2), if the police officer reasonably believes that the person may

 

be charged with a related terrorism offence.

 

(2C)    

A judge may grant permission for further questioning under subsection (2) only

 

if satisfied by evidence that:

 

(a)    

there are reasonable grounds for believing that the original charge was

 

appropriate to bring; and


 
 

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(b)    

it is in the interests of justice to allow further questioning in the

 

circumstances.

 

(2D)    

Where a judge grants permission for further questioning under subsection (2C) he

 

shall make such directions as he considers appropriate with regard to:

 

(a)    

the maximum permitted period for further questioning;

 

(b)    

the total length of time over which further questioning is permitted; or

 

(c)    

any other directions as required in the interests of justice.

 

(2E)    

A related terrorism offence means a terrorism offence arising in whole or in part

 

from the same set of facts as the offence with which the person has already been

 

charged, or officially informed that they may be prosecuted.’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

14

 

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  25,  after ‘offence’, insert ‘, at any time up to the

 

commencement of the trial,’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

91

 

Parliamentary Star - white    

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  26,  after ‘a’, insert ‘related’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

15

 

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  26,  leave out ‘or’ and insert ‘and’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

17

 

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  32,  at end insert—

 

‘(iii)    

has, after satisfying himself that the original charge was

 

appropriate and that further questioning would be in the interests

 

of justice, given authority for the constable to question the

 

person.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

92

 

Parliamentary Star - white    

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  32,  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

A police officer of at least the rank of superintendent may make an application to

 

a judge of the High Court for permission to allow a constable to question a person

 

under subsections (2) and (3) above if the police officer believes that the person

 

may be charged with a related terrorism offence.

 

(3B)    

A judge may grant permission for further questioning under subsection (2) and

 

(3) only if he is satisfied by evidence that—

 

(a)    

there are reasonable grounds for believing that the original charge was

 

appropriate to bring;

 

(b)    

it is in the interests of justice to allow further questioning in the

 

circumstances; and

 

(c)    

that further questioning would not be oppressive.


 
 

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(3C)    

Where a judge grants permission for further questioning under subsection (3B) he

 

shall make such directions as he considers appropriate with regard to—

 

(a)    

the maximum permitted period for further questioning;

 

(b)    

the total length of time over which further questioning is permitted; or

 

(c)    

any other directions in the interests of justice,

 

    

and these directions shall be subject to variation on application by either party to

 

the same court.

 

(3D)    

A “related terrorism offence” means a terrorism offence arising in whole or in

 

part from the same set of facts as the offence with which the person has already

 

been charged, or officially informed that they may be prosecuted.’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

16

 

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  34,  leave out ‘may’ and insert ‘must’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

18

 

Clause  23,  page  16,  line  35,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

Codes of practice made under subsection (4) must include provision for—

 

(a)    

questioning to take place only in the presence of a lawyer representing

 

the interests of the accused person;

 

(b)    

a transcript to be made available to the judge authorising the questioning

 

under subsection (3);

 

(c)    

the questioning to be subject to a video recording;

 

(d)    

for the purpose of the questioning to be confined to questioning about

 

new evidence which has become available since the accused person was

 

charged; and

 

(e)    

preventing oppressive questioning by specifying appropriate time limits.

 

(4B)    

Prior to the commencement of the trial the judge must review any transcripts

 

made available to him under subsection (4A)(b) having regard to subsections

 

(4A)(d) and (e).’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

19

 

Clause  23,  page  17,  line  2,  leave out subsections (6) and (7).

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

93

 

Parliamentary Star - white    

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  29,  after ‘a’, insert ‘related’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 29th April 2008                  

121

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

97

 

Parliamentary Star - white    

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  29,  leave out subsection (2) and insert—

 

‘(2)    

Subject to subsections (3) to (6), a constable may question a person about a

 

related terrorism offence where the person has already been charged with, or been

 

officially informed that they may be prosecuted for, a terrorism offence.’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

21

 

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  32,  at end insert ‘, at any time up to the commencement of

 

the trial,’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

98

 

Parliamentary Star - white    

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  32,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

A police officer of at least the rank of superintendent may make an application to

 

a judge of the High Court for permission to allow a constable to question a person

 

under subsection (2) above if the police officer believes that the person may be

 

charged with a related terrorism offence.

 

(2B)    

A judge may grant permission for further questioning under subsection (2) only

 

if he is satisfied by evidence that—

 

(a)    

there are reasonable grounds for believing that the original charge was

 

appropriate to bring;

 

(b)    

it is in the interests of justice to allow further questioning in the

 

circumstances; and

 

(c)    

that further questioning would not be oppressive.

 

(2C)    

Where a judge grants permission for further questioning under subsection (2B) he

 

shall make such directions as he considers appropriate with regard to—

 

(a)    

the maximum permitted period for further questioning;

 

(b)    

the total length of time over which further questioning is permitted; or

 

(c)    

any other directions in the interests of justice,

 

    

and these directions shall be subject to variation on application by either party to

 

the same court.

 

(2D)    

A “related terrorism offence” means a terrorism offence arising in whole or in

 

part from the same set of facts as the offencfe with which the person has already

 

been charged, or officially informed that they may be prosecuted.’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

22

 

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  32,  at end insert ‘, and

 

(c)    

a judge of the Crown Court has, after satisfying himself that the original

 

charge was appropriate and that further questioning would be in the

 

interests of justice, given authority for the constable to question the

 

person.’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 29th April 2008                  

122

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

23

 

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  34,  leave out ‘may’ and insert ‘must’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

24

 

Clause  25,  page  17,  line  36,  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

Codes of practice made under subsection (3) must include provision for—

 

(a)    

questioning to take place only in the presence of a lawyer representing

 

the interests of the accused person;

 

(b)    

a transcript to be made available to the judge authorising the questioning

 

under subsection (3);

 

(c)    

the questioning to be subject to a video recording;

 

(d)    

for the purpose of the questioning to be confined to questioning about

 

new evidence which has become available since the accused person was

 

charged; and

 

(e)    

preventing oppressive questioning by specifying appropriate time limits.

 

(3B)    

Prior to the commencement of the trial the judge must review any transcripts

 

made available to him under subsection (3A)(b) having regard to subsections

 

(3A)(d) and (e).’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

25

 

Clause  25,  page  18,  line  1,  leave out subsections (5) and (6).

 


 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

26

 

Clause  26,  page  19,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

(e)    

the common law offences of murder, manslaughter, culpable homicide,

 

kidnapping or abduction, in relation to an offence listed in subsection (1)

 

above.’.

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

126

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  27,  page  20,  line  19,  after ‘offence’, insert ‘with terrorism connections’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

50

 

Clause  27,  page  20,  line  20,  at end add—


 
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