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House of Commons

 
 

Thursday 15th May 2008

 

Public Bill Committee

 

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Counter-Terrorism Bill


 

Note

 

The Amendments have been arranged in accordance with the Order of the

 

Committee [22nd April 2008].

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

196

 

Page  49,  line  4,  leave out Clause 68.

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

197

 

Clause  69,  page  49,  line  31,  leave out from ‘Forces’ to ‘useful’ in line 32 and insert

 

‘with the intention that it is’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

44

 

Clause  69,  page  49,  line  34,  at end insert ‘and

 

(c)    

intends that the information should be useful to a person committing or

 

preparing an act of terrorism.’.


 
 

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262

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

235

 

Clause  69,  page  49,  line  36,  after ‘prove’, insert ‘—

 

(a)    

’.

 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

236

 

Clause  69,  page  49,  line  36,  after ‘action’, insert—

 

‘(b)    

that at the time of the alleged offence he did not know and had no reason

 

to know that the information or the disclosure of such information was of

 

a kind that was likely to be helpful to a person committing or preparing

 

an act of terrorism;

 

(c)    

that at the time of the alleged offence he believed that disclosure of such

 

information was in the public interest.’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

164

 

Clause  69,  page  50,  line  6,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

Schedule 8A to this Act contains supplementary provisions relating to the offence

 

under this section.’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

165

 

Clause  69,  page  50,  line  12,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

After Schedule 8 to the Terrorism Act 2000 insert the Schedule set out in

 

Schedule (Offences relating to information about members of armed forces:

 

supplementary provisions) to this Act.’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

198

 

Clause  69,  page  50,  line  12,  at end add—

 

‘(4)    

In section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000 (c.11) (collection of information) in

 

subsection (1) for “of a kind likely to be” substitute “with the intention that it is”’.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

229

 

Clause  72,  page  52,  line  22,  leave out subsection (2).

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee: 15th May 2008                  

263

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

230

 

Clause  74,  page  53,  line  15,  leave out subsection (4).

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

199

 

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  7,  after second ‘the’ insert ‘national security of the’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

45

 

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  17,  after ‘State’, insert ‘or a police authority’.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

200

 

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  17,  leave out ‘in or around’ and insert ‘within a one mile

 

radius of’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

46

 

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  18,  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

In this section “gas” means a hydrocarbon normally in a gaseous form and

 

intended for use as a fuel.’.

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

201

 

Clause  78,  page  56,  line  2,  leave out ‘in or around’ and insert ‘within a one mile

 

radius of’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 15th May 2008                  

264

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

47

 

Clause  78,  page  56,  line  6,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

In this section “gas” means a hydrocarbon normally in a gaseous form and

 

intended for use as a fuel.’.

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

202

 

Clause  79,  page  56,  line  19,  leave out ‘negative resolution procedure’ and insert

 

‘affirmative procedure’.

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

203

 

Clause  80,  page  56,  leave out lines 38 to 40.

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

204

 

Clause  80,  page  57,  line  1,  leave out paragraph (a).

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

205

 

Clause  81,  page  57,  line  22,  leave out ‘28 days’ and insert ‘6 months’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 15th May 2008                  

265

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Adam Holloway

 

David T.C. Davies

 

206

 

Clause  81,  page  57,  line  26,  leave out subsection (3).

 


 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

77

 

Schedule  6,  page  82,  line  26,  at end insert—

 

‘Terrorism Act 2000 (c. 11)

In Schedule 8, in paragraph

 
  

29(4)(a) and (c), the words “after

 
  

consulting the Lord Chancellor”.’.

 
 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

78

 

Schedule  6,  page  83,  column 2, leave out lines 6 and 7 and insert—

  

‘Regulation 45E(3) and (4).

 
  

In Regulation 109—

 
  

(a)    

paragraph (1)(g) to (i);

 
  

(b)    

in paragraph (4)(a), the words preceding

 
  

paragraph (i);

 
  

(c)    

paragraph (4)(b) and the word “and”

 
  

immediately preceding it.

 
  

In Regulation 115(2), “45E(3),”.’.

 
 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

79

 

Schedule  6,  page  83,  column 2, leave out lines 10 and 11 and insert—

  

‘Regulation 45D(3) and (4).

 
  

In Regulation 108—

 
  

(a)    

paragraph (1)(g) to (i);

 
  

(b)    

in paragraph (4)(a), the words preceding

 
  

paragraph (i);

 
  

(c)    

paragraph (4)(b) and the word “and”

 
  

immediately preceding it.

 
  

In Regulation 115(2), “45D(3),”.’.

 
 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

49

 

Schedule  6,  page  83,  column 2, leave out lines 26 to 35 and insert ‘the whole Act’.

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee: 15th May 2008                  

266

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

20

 

Clause  90,  page  59,  line  33,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

The provisions of Part 2 (detention and questioning of terrorist suspects) come

 

into force—

 

(a)    

in England and Wales on the day after the revised codes of practice under

 

section 23(4) have effect, and

 

(b)    

in Northern Ireland on the day after the revised codes of practice under

 

section 25(3) have effect.’.

 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

222

 

Clause  90,  page  59,  line  34,  leave out from ‘proceedings)’ until end of subsection

 

and insert ‘shall not come into effect until the rules of court have been approved by a

 

resolution of each House of Parliament as provided for in section 62(4).’.

 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

223

 

Clause  90,  page  60,  line  4,  at end insert ‘subject to subsections (7) and (8).’.

 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

224

 

Clause  90,  page  60,  line  7,  at end add—

 

‘(7)    

Section 22 (period of pre-charge detention) and Schedule 1 (amendments relating

 

to period of pre-charge detention), shall not come into effect until codes of

 

practice under section 66 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984

 

regulating such detention shall have been approved by a resolution of each House

 

of Parliament.

 

(8)    

Section 23 (period of post charge questioning) shall not come into effect until the

 

codes of practice under section 66 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984

 

and referred to in section 23(4) shall have been approved by a resolution of each

 

House of Parliament.’.

 


 

New Clauses

 

Pre-charge detention: minor amendments

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

NC4

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

In paragraph 9 of Schedule 8 to the Terrorism Act 2000 (direction that detained

 

person may consult solicitor only within sight and hearing of qualified officer),

 

for sub-paragraph (3) (grounds on which direction may be given) substitute—


 
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