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House of Commons

Thursday 15th May 2008

Public Bill Committee

New Amendments handed in are marked thus

Other Amendments not tabled within the required notice period are marked thus

Counter-Terrorism Bill

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Note

The Amendments have been arranged in accordance with the Order of the

Committee [22nd April 2008].

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

Mr Douglas Hogg

196

Page  49,  line  4,  leave out Clause 68.

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

197

Clause  69,  page  49,  line  31,  leave out from ‘Forces’ to ‘useful’ in line 32 and insert

‘with the intention that it is’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

44

Clause  69,  page  49,  line  34,  at end insert ‘and

(c)	intends that the information should be useful to a person committing or

preparing an act of terrorism.’.

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262

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

Mr Douglas Hogg

235

Clause  69,  page  49,  line  36,  after ‘prove’, insert ‘—

(a)

’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

236

Clause  69,  page  49,  line  36,  after ‘action’, insert—

‘(b)	that at the time of the alleged offence he did not know and had no reason

to know that the information or the disclosure of such information was of

a kind that was likely to be helpful to a person committing or preparing

an act of terrorism;

(c)	that at the time of the alleged offence he believed that disclosure of such

information was in the public interest.’.

Mr Tony McNulty

164

Clause  69,  page  50,  line  6,  at end insert—

‘( )	Schedule 8A to this Act contains supplementary provisions relating to the offence

under this section.’.

Mr Tony McNulty

165

Clause  69,  page  50,  line  12,  at end insert—

‘( )	After Schedule 8 to the Terrorism Act 2000 insert the Schedule set out in

Schedule (Offences relating to information about members of armed forces:

supplementary provisions) to this Act.’.

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

198

Clause  69,  page  50,  line  12,  at end add—

‘(4)	In section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000 (c.11) (collection of information) in

subsection (1) for “of a kind likely to be” substitute “with the intention that it is”’.

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Crispin Blunt

229

Clause  72,  page  52,  line  22,  leave out subsection (2).

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263

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Crispin Blunt

230

Clause  74,  page  53,  line  15,  leave out subsection (4).

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

199

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  7,  after second ‘the’ insert ‘national security of the’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

45

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  17,  after ‘State’, insert ‘or a police authority’.

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

200

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  17,  leave out ‘in or around’ and insert ‘within a one mile

radius of’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

46

Clause  77,  page  55,  line  18,  at end insert—

‘(3A)

In this section “gas” means a hydrocarbon normally in a gaseous form and

intended for use as a fuel.’.

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

201

Clause  78,  page  56,  line  2,  leave out ‘in or around’ and insert ‘within a one mile

radius of’.

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

47

Clause  78,  page  56,  line  6,  at end insert—

‘(4A)

In this section “gas” means a hydrocarbon normally in a gaseous form and

intended for use as a fuel.’.

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

202

Clause  79,  page  56,  line  19,  leave out ‘negative resolution procedure’ and insert

‘affirmative procedure’.

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

203

Clause  80,  page  56,  leave out lines 38 to 40.

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

204

Clause  80,  page  57,  line  1,  leave out paragraph (a).

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

205

Clause  81,  page  57,  line  22,  leave out ‘28 days’ and insert ‘6 months’.

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265

Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

Patrick Mercer

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Adam Holloway

David T.C. Davies

206

Clause  81,  page  57,  line  26,  leave out subsection (3).

Mr Tony McNulty

77

Schedule  6,  page  82,  line  26,  at end insert—

	‘Terrorism Act 2000 (c. 11)	In Schedule 8, in paragraph
		29(4)(a) and (c), the words “after
		consulting the Lord Chancellor”.’.

Mr Tony McNulty

78

Schedule  6,  page  83,  column 2, leave out lines 6 and 7 and insert—

‘Regulation 45E(3) and (4).

In Regulation 109—

(a)	paragraph (1)(g) to (i);

(b)	in paragraph (4)(a), the words preceding

paragraph (i);

(c)	paragraph (4)(b) and the word “and”

immediately preceding it.

In Regulation 115(2), “45E(3),”.’.

Mr Tony McNulty

79

Schedule  6,  page  83,  column 2, leave out lines 10 and 11 and insert—

‘Regulation 45D(3) and (4).

In Regulation 108—

(a)	paragraph (1)(g) to (i);

(b)	in paragraph (4)(a), the words preceding

paragraph (i);

(c)	paragraph (4)(b) and the word “and”

immediately preceding it.

In Regulation 115(2), “45D(3),”.’.

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

49

Schedule  6,  page  83,  column 2, leave out lines 26 to 35 and insert ‘the whole Act’.

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

Tom Brake

Mr David Heath

20

Clause  90,  page  59,  line  33,  at end insert—

‘( )	The provisions of Part 2 (detention and questioning of terrorist suspects) come

into force—

(a)	in England and Wales on the day after the revised codes of practice under

section 23(4) have effect, and

(b)	in Northern Ireland on the day after the revised codes of practice under

section 25(3) have effect.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Crispin Blunt

222

Clause  90,  page  59,  line  34,  leave out from ‘proceedings)’ until end of subsection

and insert ‘shall not come into effect until the rules of court have been approved by a

resolution of each House of Parliament as provided for in section 62(4).’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Crispin Blunt

223

Clause  90,  page  60,  line  4,  at end insert ‘subject to subsections (7) and (8).’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Dominic Grieve

Mr Crispin Blunt

224

Clause  90,  page  60,  line  7,  at end add—

‘(7)	Section 22 (period of pre-charge detention) and Schedule 1 (amendments relating

to period of pre-charge detention), shall not come into effect until codes of

practice under section 66 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984

regulating such detention shall have been approved by a resolution of each House

of Parliament.

(8)	Section 23 (period of post charge questioning) shall not come into effect until the

codes of practice under section 66 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984

and referred to in section 23(4) shall have been approved by a resolution of each

House of Parliament.’.

New Clauses

Pre-charge detention: minor amendments

Mr Tony McNulty

NC4

To move the following Clause:—

‘(1)	In paragraph 9 of Schedule 8 to the Terrorism Act 2000 (direction that detained

person may consult solicitor only within sight and hearing of qualified officer),

for sub-paragraph (3) (grounds on which direction may be given) substitute—

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Revised 15 May 2008