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House of Commons

 
 

Tuesday 29th April 2008

 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill


 

[Fifth and sixth Sittings]


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  51

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  leave out lines 6 to 11.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  57

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  8,  leave out subsection (2) and insert—

 

‘(2)    

Where a constable who carries out a search to which this section applies finds a

 

document that he has reasonable grounds for believing is one that may be seized,

 

he may remove the document to another place for the purpose of ascertaining

 

whether the document is one that may be seized and retain it there until the

 

examination is completed.’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  1

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  8,  after ‘may’, insert ‘, if he has reasonable grounds for

 

believing that a document may be seized, and’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not moved  80

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  11,  after ‘completed’, insert ‘subject to a maximum of three

 

days’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  52

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  19,  leave out subsection (4).


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 29th April 2008        

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not selected  53

 

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  27,  leave out ‘51 weeks’ and insert ‘three years’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not selected  54

 

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  29,  leave out ‘twelve months’ and insert ‘three years’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not selected  55

 

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  31,  leave out ‘six months’ and insert ‘three years’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Withdrawn  2

 

Clause  3,  page  2,  line  44,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

Under subsection (2), it is not reasonably practicable, for the item subject to legal

 

privilege to be separated from the rest of the document if, and only if, it is not

 

reasonably practicable because of—

 

(a)    

the time required to determine whether an item should be seized or to

 

separate such an item;

 

(b)    

the number of persons required to carry out that determination or

 

separation; or

 

(c)    

the apparatus or equipment that would be necessary or appropriate to use

 

for carrying out that determination or separation.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Negatived on division  56

 

Clause  3,  page  3,  line  12,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

Where an item subject to legal privilege is removed under subsection (2) or

 

retained under subsection (4) its examination must take place in circumstances

 

where its contents are not revealed to any person other than that examining the

 

item for the purposes of separating such part of the document that is not subject

 

to legal privilege from such part that is so subject.’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 29th April 2008        

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not selected  3

 

Page  2,  line  36,  leave out Clause 3.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Patrick Mercer

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Withdrawn  81

 

Clause  4,  page  3,  line  23,  leave out from ‘removal’ to end and insert ‘within 24

 

hours’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  73

 

Clause  4,  page  3,  line  41,  leave out subsection (3) and insert—

 

‘( )    

If, in a case where the document was found in the course of a search of a person,

 

the constable does not know the person’s name, the record must include a

 

description of the person.

 

( )    

If, in a case where the document was found in the course of a search of any

 

premises, the constable does not know the name of a person mentioned in

 

subsection (2)(e) but is able to provide a description of that person, the record

 

must include such a description.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  58

 

Clause  4,  page  4,  line  11,  at end add ‘and in any event within six hours’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Withdrawn  4

 

Clause  5,  page  4,  line  22,  at end insert ‘, provided that he has satisfied himself that

 

the provisions of sections 1 to 5 have been properly met.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  82

 

Clause  6,  page  5,  line  2,  leave out paragraph (b).


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 29th April 2008        

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  83

 

Clause  6,  page  5,  line  5,  leave out paragraph (d).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  59

 

Clause  6,  page  5,  line  5,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

An appeal against any refusal of access to a document may be made to a judge of

 

the crown court.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clauses 7, 8 and 9 Agreed to.

 


 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Withdrawn  5

 

Clause  10,  page  6,  line  29,  after ‘constable’, insert ‘with the authority of an officer

 

of a rank no lower than inspector’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  6

 

Clause  10,  page  6,  line  40,  after ‘constable’, insert ‘with the authority of an officer

 

of a rank no lower than inspector’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Withdrawn  7

 

Clause  10,  page  7,  line  5,  leave out subsection (4).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  60

 

Clause  10,  page  7,  leave out lines 7 to 10 and insert—

 

‘“(1AA)    

 Where fingerprints or samples are taken from a person who is subject to a

 

control order the fingerprints or samples shall be destroyed no later than six

 

months after the date when such control orders shall cease to have effect.”’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 11 Agreed to.

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 29th April 2008        

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  8

 

Clause  12,  page  9,  line  2,  after ‘constable’, insert ‘with the authority of an officer of

 

a rank no lower than inspector’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  9

 

Clause  12,  page  9,  line  13,  after ‘constable’, insert ‘with the authority of an officer

 

of a rank no lower than inspector’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  10

 

Clause  12,  page  9,  line  19,  leave out subsection (5).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  61

 

Clause  12,  page  9,  leave out lines 21 to 24 and insert—

 

‘“(1AA)    

 Where fingerprints or samples are taken from a person who is subject to a

 

control order the fingerprints or samples shall be destroyed no later than six

 

months after the date when such a control order shall cease to have effect.”’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 13 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  84

 

Clause  14,  page  10,  line  8,  leave out ‘or samples’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  62

 

Clause  14,  page  10,  line  37,  leave out paragraph (a).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  85

 

Clause  14,  page  10,  line  37,  leave out ‘national security’ and insert ‘preventing an

 

offence with a terrorist connection’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 29th April 2008        

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  86

 

Clause  15,  page  11,  line  7,  leave out ‘or samples’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  63

 

Clause  15,  page  11,  line  36,  leave out paragraph (a).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  87

 

Clause  15,  page  11,  line  36,  leave out ‘national security’ and insert ‘preventing an

 

offence with a terrorist connection’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 16 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  64

 

Clause  17,  page  12,  line  29,  leave out from beginning to ‘or’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  65

 

Clause  18,  page  13,  line  13,  leave out paragraph (a).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  88

 

Clause  18,  page  13,  line  13,  leave out ‘national security’ and insert ‘preventing an

 

offence with a terrorist connection’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  66

 

Clause  18,  page  32,  line  27,  leave out paragraph (c).


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 29th April 2008        

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  67

 

Clause  18,  page  13,  line  32,  leave out ‘or disclosing it to any person’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  68

 

Clause  18,  page  13,  line  32,  leave out ‘person’ and insert ‘law enforcement

 

authority’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  89

 

Clause  19,  page  14,  line  36,  leave out subsection (1).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  70

 

Clause  19,  page  14,  line  43,  leave out paragraph (a) and insert—

 

‘(a)    

in the interests of national security,’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  71

 

Clause  19,  page  15,  line  3,  leave out paragraph (a).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  72

 

Clause  19,  page  15,  line  9,  leave out paragraph (a) and insert—

 

‘(a)    

in the interests of national security,’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  11

 

Clause  19,  page  15,  line  17,  at end add—

 

‘(8)    

Nothing in this section shall require a person to disclose information to any of the

 

intelligence services for any purpose.’.


 
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