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House of Commons

 
 

Tuesday 13th May 2008

 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill


 

[Eleventh and twelfth Sittings]


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Withdrawn  173

 

Clause  33,  page  22,  line  44,  leave out from ‘terrorism’ to end of line 46.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  138

 

Clause  33,  page  23,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘section 6 (training for terrorism);’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

Not selected  231

 

Clause  34,  page  23,  line  43,  after ‘section’, insert ‘and where the court is satisfied

 

on the balance of probabilities that the person is the owner or otherwise has an interest in

 

anything which otherwise might be subject to forfeiture under that section and considers

 

that it would be unjust to that person to make an order of forfeiture the court shall not

 

make such an order but shall make such other order as seems to the court to be just.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Withdrawn  174

 

Clause  34,  page  24,  line  2,  leave out ‘and other’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 35 Agreed to.

 



 
 

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  139

 

Clause  36,  page  27,  line  6,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

In section 7 of the Terrorism Act 2006 (c. 11), after subsection (6) insert—

 

“(7)    

The power of forfeiture under this section is in addition to any power of

 

forfeiture under section 23A of the Terrorism Act 2000.”’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clause 37 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  140

 

Schedule  3,  page  72,  line  18,  at end insert—

 

 

‘(c)    

in relation to a restraint order, any offence specified in Schedule

 

2 to the Counter-Terrorism Act 2008 (offences where terrorist

 

connection to be considered).’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  141

 

Schedule  3,  page  73,  line  1,  at end insert—

 

 

‘(c)    

in relation to a restraint order, any offence specified in Schedule

 

2 to the Counter-Terrorism Act 2008 (offences where terrorist

 

connection to be considered).’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clause 38 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  142

 

Clause  39,  page  28,  line  38,  leave out from ‘things)’ to end of line 39.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Withdrawn  95

 

Clause  45,  page  33,  line  12,  leave out ‘such a determination’ and insert ‘section

 

42.’.


 
 

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not called  96

 

Clause  45,  page  33,  line  15,  leave out subsection (3).

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

                                                            Agreed to

 

That Clause 45 be transferred to end of line 24 on page 29.

 

Clause 40 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  143

 

Clause  41,  page  30,  line  1,  leave out paragraph (b) and insert—

 

‘(b)    

immediately before the commencement of this Part the person—

 

(i)    

is imprisoned or detained in pursuance of the sentence passed or

 

order made in respect of the offence,

 

(ii)    

would be so imprisoned or detained but for being unlawfully at

 

large, absent without leave, on temporary leave or leave of

 

absence, or on bail pending an appeal, or

 

(iii)    

has been released on licence, having served the whole or part of

 

a sentence of imprisonment in respect of the offence.’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  144

 

Clause  41,  page  30,  line  8,  leave out ‘, order or finding’ and insert ‘or order’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Withdrawn  35

 

Clause  42,  page  30,  leave out lines 33 to 34.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  33

 

Clause  42,  page  30,  leave out lines 42 to 44.


 
 

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Patrick Mercer

 

Not moved  94

 

Clause  42,  page  30,  line  45,  at end insert—

 

‘(c)    

and who in the opinion of the court should be subject to notification

 

requirements—

 

(i)    

in the interests of national security, or

 

(ii)    

otherwise in the public interest.’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  37

 

Clause  42,  page  31,  leave out lines 4 to 8.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  38

 

Clause  42,  page  31,  leave out lines 14 to 19.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  36

 

Clause  42,  page  31,  leave out lines 27 to 32.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  34

 

Clause  42,  page  31,  leave out lines 38 to 40.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Withdrawn  175

 

Clause  43,  page  32,  line  4,  leave out paragraph (a).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Not called  176

 

Clause  43,  page  32,  line  5,  leave out from ‘force’ to end of line 9.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  145

 

Clause  44,  page  32,  line  17,  leave out from ‘question’ to the end of line 22.


 
 

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  146

 

Clause  44,  page  33,  line  4,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

In the application of this section to a person dealt with for an offence before the

 

commencement of this Part who, immediately before commencement—

 

(a)    

would be imprisoned or detained in respect of the offence but for being

 

unlawfully at large, absent without leave, on temporary leave or leave of

 

absence, or on bail pending an appeal, or

 

(b)    

has been released on licence, having served the whole or part of a

 

sentence of imprisonment in respect of the offence,

 

    

the reference in subsection (1) to the day on which the person is dealt with in

 

respect of the offence shall be read as a reference to the commencement of this

 

Part.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  147

 

Clause  46,  page  33,  line  37,  at end insert—

 

    

‘This does not apply if the person is at the same time required to notify the police

 

under section 44 (initial notification).’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  148

 

Clause  46,  page  33,  line  40,  leave out from ‘changes’ to the end of line 41 and

 

insert ‘in that information’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  149

 

Clause  46,  page  34,  line  11,  leave out ‘or this section’ and insert ‘, this section or

 

section 47 (periodic re-notification)’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  150

 

Clause  47,  page  34,  line  16,  after ‘after’, insert ‘last’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  151

 

Clause  47,  page  34,  line  21,  leave out from ‘if’ to ‘at’ in line 23 and insert ‘the

 

period referred to in subsection (1) ends’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  152

 

Clause  47,  page  34,  line  28,  leave out from beginning to end of line 29 and insert—


 
 

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

‘( )    

In that case section 46(4) and (10) (duty to notify of release and to re-notify other

 

information) apply when the person is released.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clauses 48 and 49 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  153

 

Clause  50,  page  35,  line  37,  leave out from ‘regulations’ to end of line 41.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  154

 

Clause  50,  page  36,  line  3,  leave out subsection (5).

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Withdrawn  39

 

Clause  51,  page  36,  line  8,  leave out ‘an indefinite period’ and insert ‘five years’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  40

 

Clause  51,  page  36,  line  44,  at end insert—

 

‘(1A)    

Notification requirements in relation to offences under subsection (1) may be

 

renewed on one or more occasions if it is considered necessary for purposes

 

connected with protecting members of the public from a risk of terrorism, for the

 

notification requirements to continue in force.’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  41

 

Clause  51,  page  36,  line  45,  leave out ‘10’ and insert ‘5’.

 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  42

 

Clause  51,  page  36,  line  46,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

Notification requirements in relation to offences under subsection (2) may be

 

renewed on one occasion if it is considered necessary for purposes connected

 

with protecting members of the public from a risk of terrorism, for the notification

 

requirements to continue in force.’.


 
 

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Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued

 
 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Not called  43

 

Clause  51,  page  37,  line  3,  leave out subsection (4).

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  155

 

Clause  51,  page  37,  line  3,  leave out from ‘section’ to ‘(finding’ in line 4 and insert

 

‘42(1)(b)(iii), (2)(b)(iii) or (3)(b)(iii)’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  156

 

Clause  51,  page  37,  line  11,  leave out ‘terrorism offences’ and insert ‘offences to

 

which this Part applies’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clauses 52 to 55 Agreed to.

 


 

Tom Brake

 

Mr David Heath

 

Withdrawn  48

 

Schedule  4,  page  75,  line  25,  at end insert ‘and

 

(c)    

the court exercising jurisdiction under that law has not, in respect of the

 

corresponding foreign offence, relied on evidence or information

 

obtained through torture, duress or other means that would render such

 

evidence or information inadmissible in a court in the United Kingdom.’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  157

 

Schedule  4,  page  75,  line  33,  leave out lines 33 to 35 and insert—

 

‘(ii)    

would have been so imprisoned or detained but for being

 

unlawfully at large or otherwise unlawfully absent, lawfully

 

absent on a temporary basis or on bail pending an appeal, or

 

(iii)    

had been released on licence, or was subject to an equivalent

 

form of supervision, having served the whole or part of a

 

sentence of imprisonment for the offence.’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  158

 

Schedule  5,  page  77,  line  30,  after ‘order’, insert ‘in respect of a person’.

 

Mr Tony McNulty

 

Agreed to  159

 

Schedule  5,  page  77,  line  31,  leave out from ‘that’ to the end of line 32 and insert


 
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