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(a)	to the use of C’s human cells to bring about the creation of an embryo

in vitro for use for the purposes of a project of research, or

(b)	to the use for those purposes of an embryo in relation to which C is a

relevant person by reason only of the use of C’s human cells,

is to be treated for the purposes of sub-paragraphs (1) to (3) as the effective

consent of C.

(3ZC)

If C attains the age of 18 years or the condition in paragraph 15A(3) ceases to

be met in relation to C, paragraph 4 has effect in relation to C as if any effective

consent previously given under sub-paragraphs (1) to (3) by a person having

parental responsibility for C had been given by C but, subject to that, sub-

paragraph (3ZB) ceases to apply in relation to C.

(3ZD)

Sub-paragraphs (1) to (3) have effect subject to paragraphs 15B and 15F.’.

Dawn Primarolo

68

Schedule  3,  page  62,  line  16,  leave out ‘and (3)’ and insert ‘, (3) and (3ZB)’.

Dawn Primarolo

69

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  1,  at end insert—

‘(2ZA)

Where a licence authorises the application of paragraph 6(3ZB) in relation to

a person who has not attained the age of 18 years (“C”), the effective consent

of a person having parental responsibility for C to the storage of an embryo in

relation to which C is a relevant person by reason only of the use of C’s human

cells is to be treated for the purposes of sub-paragraph (2) as the effective

consent of C.

(2ZB)

If C attains the age of 18 years or the condition in paragraph 15A(3) ceases to

be met in relation to C, paragraph 4 has effect in relation to C as if any effective

consent previously given under sub-paragraph (2) by a person having parental

responsibility for C had been given by C but, subject to that, sub-paragraph

(2ZA) ceases to apply in relation to C.’.

Dawn Primarolo

70

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  2,  for ‘sub-paragraph (2)’ substitute ‘sub-paragraphs (2)

and (2ZA)’.

Dawn Primarolo

71

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  17,  leave out ‘paragraph 4A(4)’ and insert ‘paragraphs

4A(4), 15B and 15F’.

Dawn Primarolo

72

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  20,  leave out ‘(“the child donor”)’ and insert ‘(“C”)’.

Mr David Amess

128

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  20,  leave out ‘donor’ and insert ‘patient’.

Dawn Primarolo

73

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  21,  leave out ‘the child donor’s’ and insert ‘C’s’.

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Mr David Amess

129

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  21,  leave out ‘donor’s’ and insert ‘patient’s’.

Dawn Primarolo

74

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  24,  leave out ‘the child donor before the child donor’ and

insert ‘C before C’.

Mr David Amess

130

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  24,  leave out first and second ‘donor’ and insert ‘patient’.

Mark Simmonds

32

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  25,  leave out ‘18’ and insert ‘16’.

Dawn Primarolo

75

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  27,  leave out ‘the child donor’ and insert ‘C’.

Mr David Amess

131

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  27,  leave out ‘donor’ and insert ‘patient’.

Dawn Primarolo

76

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  31,  leave out ‘the fertility of the child donor’ and insert

‘C’s fertility’.

Mr David Amess

132

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  31,  leave out ‘donor’ and insert ‘patient’.

Dawn Primarolo

77

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  32,  leave out ‘the best interests of the child donor’ and

insert ‘C’s best interests’.

Mr David Amess

133

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  33,  leave out ‘donor’ and insert ‘patient’.

Dawn Primarolo

78

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  36,  leave out ‘the child donor’ and insert ‘C’.

Mr David Amess

134

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  36,  leave out ‘donor’ and insert ‘patient’.

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Dawn Primarolo

79

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  39,  leave out ‘the child donor’ and insert ‘C’.

Mr David Amess

135

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  39,  leave out ‘donor’ and insert ‘patient’.

Dawn Primarolo

80

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  43,  leave out ‘the child donor’ and insert ‘C’.

Mr David Amess

136

Schedule  3,  page  63,  line  43,  leave out ‘donor’ and insert ‘patient’.

Dawn Primarolo

81

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  4,  leave out ‘he’ and insert ‘C’.

Dawn Primarolo

82

Schedule  3,  page  64,  leave out line 7.

Dawn Primarolo

83

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  10,  leave out ‘the child donor’ and insert ‘C’.

Mr David Amess

137

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  10,  leave out ‘donor’ and insert ‘patient’.

Dawn Primarolo

84

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  17,  leave out ‘(“the patient”)’ and insert ‘(“P”)’.

Dawn Primarolo

85

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  18,  leave out ‘the patient’s’ and insert ‘P’s’.

Dawn Primarolo

86

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  20,  leave out ‘the patient after the patient’ and insert ‘P

after P’.

Dawn Primarolo

87

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  23,  leave out ‘the patient’ and insert ‘P’.

Dawn Primarolo

88

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  27,  leave out ‘the patient’s’ and insert ‘P’s’.

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Dawn Primarolo

89

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  28,  leave out ‘the patient’ and insert ‘P’.

Dawn Primarolo

90

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  30,  leave out ‘the patient is likely to regain’ and insert ‘P

is likely at some time to have’.

Dawn Primarolo

91

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  31,  leave out ‘the patient’s’ and insert ‘P’s’.

Dawn Primarolo

92

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  33,  leave out ‘the patient’ and insert ‘P’.

Dawn Primarolo

93

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  34,  leave out ‘the patient has not, after regaining’ and

insert ‘P has not subsequently, at a time when P has’.

Dawn Primarolo

94

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  38,  leave out ‘the patient’ and insert ‘P’.

Dawn Primarolo

95

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  40,  leave out ‘the patient’ and insert ‘P’.

Dawn Primarolo

96

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  42,  leave out ‘the patient’ and insert ‘P’.

Dawn Primarolo

97

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  45,  leave out ‘the patient regaining’ and insert ‘P having’.

Dawn Primarolo

98

Schedule  3,  page  64,  line  46,  leave out ‘the patient no longer’ and insert ‘P not’.

Dawn Primarolo

99

Schedule  3,  page  65,  leave out lines 3 to 5.

Dr Evan Harris

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Schedule  3,  page  65,  line  7,  at end insert—

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‘Cases where consent not required for storage and use for research

12A(1)

The human cells of a person (“the donor”) may be used to bring about the

creation of an embryo or a human admixed embryo in vitro; and any embryo

or human admixed embryo so created may be used or stored for the purposes

of any project of research without the donor’s consent if the following

conditions are met.

(2)	Condition A is that the human cells are lawfully taken from or provided by the

donor.

(3)	Condition B is that the human cells were first stored or used prior to the day on

which Schedule 3 to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 2008 comes

into force.

(4)	Condition C is that the human cells, embryos or human admixed embryos are

used in circumstances such that the person carrying out the research (“the

researcher”) is not in possession, and not likely to come into possession, of

information from which the donor can be identified.

(5)	Condition D is that it is not reasonably possible to contact the donor to obtain

their consent.

(6)	Condition E is that there are resonable grounds for believing that research of

comparable effectiveness cannot be carried out if the project of research for

which the human cells, embryos or human admixed embryos are stored or used

has to be confined to, or relate only to, material in relation to which there is an

effective consent.

(7)	Condition F is that it does not appear to the researcher that the donor has

indicated any objection to such use or storage (as applicable).’.

Dr Evan Harris

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Schedule  3,  page  65,  line  7,  at end insert—

‘Consent in relation to children for storage and use for research

12A(1)

The human cells of a person (“the child”) may be used to bring about the

creation of an embryo or inter-species embryo in vitro, and any embryo or

inter-species embryo so created, used or stored for the purposes of any project

of research without the child’s consent if the following conditions are met.

(2)	Condition A is that the human cells are lawfully taken from or provided by the

child before the child attains the age of 18 years.

(3)	Condition B is that, at the time when the human cells are first used, the child

is not competent to deal with the issue of consent in relation to either the

storage or use of the human cells, embryos or inter-species embryos.

(4)	Condition C is that the child does not appear to the person storing or using the

human cells, embryos or inter-species embryos to have indicated any objection

to such storage or use.

(5)	Condition D is that a person who has parental responsibility for the child has

given their consent in writing and signed it.

(6)	Condition E is that there are reasonable grounds for believing that research of

comparable effectiveness cannot be carried out if the project of research for

which the human cells, embryos or inter-species embryos are stored or used

has to be confined to, or relate only to, persons who have capacity to consent

to it.

(7)	Condition F is that the research is directed towards a serious medical condition

from which the child suffers.

(8)	In relation to Scotland, in sub-paragraph (2), for “18” substitute “16”.’.

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Schedule  3,  page  65,  line  7,  at end add—

‘12A	After paragraph 8 insert—

“Cases where consent not required for use in research to preserve fertility

9A  (1)

The gametes of a person (‘the child donor’) may be kept in use

without the child donor’s consent if the following conditions are

met.

(2)	Condition A is that the gametes are lawfully taken from or provided

by the child donor before the child donor attains the age of 18 years.

(3)	Condition B is that, before the gametes are used, a registered

medical practitioner certifies in writing that the child donor is

expected to undergo medical treatment and that in the opinion of the

registered medical practitioner—

(a)	the treatment is likely to cause a significant impairment of

the fertility of the child donor,

(b)	the use of the gametes is in the best interests of the child

donor, and

(c)	the use of the gametes for research is necessary to preserve

the fertility of the child donor.

(4)	Condition C is that, at the time when the gametes are used, either—

(a)	the child donor has not attained the age of 16 years and is

not competent to deal with the issue of consent to the use of

the gametes, or

(b)	the child donor has attained that age but, although not

lacking capacity to consent to the use of the gametes, is not

competent to deal with the issue of consent to their use.

(5)	Condition D is that the child donor has not, since becoming

competent to deal with the issue of consent to the use of the

gametes—

(a)	given consent under this Schedule to the use of the

gametes, or

(b)	given written notice to the person keeping the gametes that

he does not wish them to be used.

(6)	In relation to Scotland, subparagraphs (1) to (5) are to be read with

the following modifications—

(a)	in subparagraph (2), for ‘18’ substitute ‘16’,

(b)	for subparagraph (4), substitute—

‘(4)	Condition C is that, at the time when the gametes are used,

the child donor does not have capacity (within the meaning

of section 2(4) of the Age of Legal Capacity (Scotland) Act

1991 (c. 50)) to consent to the use of the gametes.’, and

(c)	in subparagraph (5), for ‘becoming competent to deal with

the issue of consent to the use of the gametes’ substitute

‘acquiring such capacity’.”’.

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Mr David Amess

126

Schedule  3,  page  65,  line  11,  after ‘(1)’, insert ‘Without any exception’.

Mr David Amess

127

Schedule  3,  page  65,  line  13,  after ‘effective’, insert ‘explicit’.

Dawn Primarolo

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Schedule  3,  page  65,  line  29,  at end insert—

‘(4)	If the Authority is satisfied that the parental consent conditions in paragraph

15A are met in relation to the proposed use under a licence of the human cells

of a person who has not attained the age of 18 years (“C”), the Authority may

in the licence authorise the application of sub-paragraph (5) in relation to C.

(5)	Where the licence authorises the application of this sub-paragraph, the

effective consent of a person having parental responsibility for C—

(a)	to the use of C’s human cells to bring about the creation of a human

admixed embryo in vitro for use for the purposes of a project of

research, or

(b)	to the use for those purposes of a human admixed embryo in relation

to which C is a relevant person by reason only of the use of C’s human

cells,

is to be treated for the purposes of sub-paragraphs (1) to (3) as the effective

consent of C.

(6)	If C attains the age of 18 years or the condition in paragraph 15A(3) ceases to

be met in relation to C, paragraph 4 has effect in relation to C as if any effective

consent previously given under sub-paragraphs (1) to (3) by a person having

parental responsibility for C had been given by C but, subject to that, sub-

paragraph (5) ceases to apply in relation to C.

(7)	Sub-paragraphs (1) to (3) have effect subject to paragraphs 15B and 15F.’.

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Schedule  3,  page  65,  line  36,  at end insert—

‘(2)	Where a licence authorises the application of paragraph 13(5) in relation to a

person who has not attained the age of 18 years (“C”), the effective consent of

a person having parental responsibility for C to the storage of a human

admixed embryo in relation to which C is a relevant person by reason only of

the use of C’s human cells is to be treated for the purposes of sub-paragraph

(1) as the effective consent of C.

(3)	If C attains the age of 18 years or the condition in paragraph 15A(3) ceases to

be met in relation to C, paragraph 4 has effect in relation to C as if any effective

consent previously given under sub-paragraph (1) by a person having parental

responsibility for C had been given by C but, subject to that, sub-paragraph (2)

ceases to apply in relation to C.

(4)	Sub-paragraph (1) has effect subject to paragraphs 15B and 15F.’.

Dawn Primarolo

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Schedule  3,  page  66,  line  5,  at end insert—

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Revised 3 June 2008