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(b)	that the investigation for the purposes of which the further questioning is

proposed is being conducted diligently and expeditiously.’

Secretary Jacqui Smith

62

Page  31,  line  18  [Clause  44],  leave out from beginning to end of line 22 and

insert—

‘(i)	imprisonment for life,

(ii)	imprisonment for a term of 12 months or more,

(iii)

imprisonment for public protection under section 225 of the

Criminal Justice Act 2003;’.

Secretary Jacqui Smith

63

Page  31,  line  38  [Clause  44],  at end insert—

‘( )	In relation to a sentence passed at any time before the coming into force of section

61 of the Criminal Justice and Court Services Act 2000 (abolition of sentences of

detention in a young offender institution, custody for life etc), subsection (1)(a)

above has effect with the following modifications—

(a)	in sub-paragraph (i), after “imprisonment” insert “(or custody)”;

(b)	in sub-paragraph (ii), after “imprisonment” insert “(or detention in a

young offender institution)”;

(c)	in sub-paragraph (iii), after “imprisonment” insert “(or detention)”.’

Secretary Jacqui Smith

64

Page  31,  line  41  [Clause  44],  at end insert—

‘( )	imprisonment for life,

( )	an order for lifelong restriction under section 210F of the

Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995,

( )	detention without limit of time under section 205(2) of that Act

(punishment for murder for offenders under 18),

( )	detention in a young offenders institution under section 205(3) of

that Act (punishment for murder for offenders aged 18 to 21),’.

Secretary Jacqui Smith

65

Page  32,  line  16  [Clause  44],  leave out from beginning to end of line 18 and

insert—

‘( )	imprisonment for life,

( )	imprisonment (or detention in a young offenders centre) for a

term of 12 months or more,

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( )	an indeterminate custodial sentence under Article 13(3) and (4)

of the Criminal Justice (Northern Ireland) Order 2008,’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

94

Page  36,  line  28  [Clause  52],  leave out ‘indefinite period’ and insert ‘10 years’.

Mr Nick Clegg

Dr Vincent Cable

Chris Huhne

Tom Brake

David Howarth

Mr Paul Burstow

Total signatories: 7

113

Page  36,  line  28  [Clause  52],  leave out ‘an indefinite period’ and insert ‘five

years’.

Secretary Jacqui Smith

66

Page  36,  line  32  [Clause  52],  leave out from beginning to end of line 36 and

insert—

‘(i)	imprisonment for life,

(ii)	imprisonment for a term of 5 years or more,

(iii)

imprisonment for public protection under section 225 of the

Criminal Justice Act 2003;’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

95

Page  36,  line  34  [Clause  52],  leave out ‘5’ and insert ‘10’.

Secretary Jacqui Smith

67

Page  37,  line  2  [Clause  52],  leave out from beginning to end of line 5 and insert—

( )	an order for lifelong restriction under section 210F of the

Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995,

( )	detention without limit of time under section 205(2) of that Act

(punishment for murder for offenders under 18),

( )	detention in a young offenders institution under section 205(3) of

that Act (punishment for murder for offenders aged 18 to 21),

( )	imprisonment for a term of 5 years or more,’.

Secretary Jacqui Smith

69

Page  37,  line  20  [Clause  52],  at end insert—

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‘( )	an indeterminate custodial sentence under Article 13(3) and (4)

of the Criminal Justice (Northern Ireland) Order 2008,’.

Secretary Jacqui Smith

68

Page  37,  line  20  [Clause  52],  at end insert—

‘( )	In relation to a sentence passed at any time before the coming into force of section

61 of the Criminal Justice and Court Services Act 2000 (abolition of sentences of

detention in a young offender institution, custody for life etc), subsection (1)(a)

above has effect with the following modifications—

(a)	in sub-paragraph (i), after “imprisonment” insert “(or custody)”;

(b)	in sub-paragraph (ii), after “imprisonment” insert “(or detention in a

young offender institution)”;

(c)	in sub-paragraph (iii), after “imprisonment” insert “(or detention)”.’

Mr Nick Clegg

Dr Vincent Cable

Chris Huhne

Tom Brake

David Howarth

Mr Paul Burstow

Total signatories: 7

114

Page  37,  line  20  [Clause  52],  at end insert—

‘(1A)

Notification requirements in relation to offences under subsection (1) may be

renewed on one or more occasions if it is considered necessary for purposes

connected with protecting members of the public from a risk of terrorism;’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Nick Clegg

Dr Vincent Cable

Chris Huhne

Tom Brake

David Howarth

Total signatories: 8

96

Page  37,  line  21  [Clause  52],  leave out ‘10’ and insert ‘5’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

97

Page  37,  line  22  [Clause  52],  at end insert—

‘(2A)

Notification requirements in relation to offences that are specified in subsections

(1) and (2) may be renewed on one occasion if it is considered necessary for the

purpose of protecting members of the public from the risks of terrorism for the

notification requirements to continue in force.

(2B)	A person to whom the notification requirements apply may after a period of 5

years from the making of the notification requirements apply to the court for the

notification requirements to be terminated or varied and the court may if it is sure

that the notification requirements are no longer necessary for the purpose of

protecting members of the public from the risk of terrorism terminate or vary the

notification requirements.’.

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Mr Nick Clegg

Dr Vincent Cable

Chris Huhne

Tom Brake

David Howarth

Mr Paul Burstow

Total signatories: 7

116

Page  37,  line  22  [Clause  52],  at end insert—

‘(2A)

Notification requirements in relation to offences under subsection (2) may be

renewed on one occasion if it is considered necessary for purposes connected

with protecting members of the public from a risk of terrorism;’.

Mr Neil Gerrard

109

Page  40,  line  10,  leave out Clause 57.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

21

Page  40,  line  40  [Clause  57],  leave out from ‘to’ to end and insert ‘affirmative

resolution procedure.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

22

Page  41,  line  10  [Clause  58],  at end insert—

‘(c)	the need to ensure that the manner in which the proceedings are

conducted are fair to every party to the proceedings.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

23

Page  41,  line  13  [Clause  58],  leave out paragraph (b).

Mr Neil Gerrard

107

Page  41,  line  20  [Clause  58],  leave out paragraph (b).

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

24

Page  41,  line  27  [Clause  58],  at end insert ‘but do include any person or body who

claims or may reasonably be expected to claim to be the owner of or to have an interest in

any money or other property which may be affected by any asset freezing decision or by

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any decision made in the asset freezing proceedings.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

25

Page  42,  line  3  [Clause  59],  after ‘that’, insert ‘, provided that the person appointed

as the special advocate is present,’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

26

Page  42,  line  7  [Clause  59],  after ‘interest’, insert ‘and that the withholding of the

material would not cause injustice to a party to the proceedings’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

27

Page  42,  line  9  [Clause  59],  leave out ‘consider requiring’ and insert ‘require’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

28

Page  42,  line  14  [Clause  59],  at end insert ‘and is sufficient to ensure that the

conduct of the proceedings will be fair to all parties to those proceedings.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

29

Page  42,  line  14  [Clause  59],  at end insert—

‘(f)	that material which supports the cause of a party to the proceedings or

which adversely affects the Treasury’s case may not be withheld from a

party to the proceedings or from that party’s legal representative;

(g)	that material which supports the cause of a party to the proceedings or

which adversely affects the Treasury’s case is always disclosed to the

person appointed as the special advocate.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

31

Page  42,  line  28  [Clause  59],  at end insert—

‘(5A)

Rules of court must ensure that any person or body who claims or may reasonably

be expected to claim to be the owner of or have an interest in any money or other

property which may be affected by the asset freezing decision or by any decision

made in the asset freezing proceedings is able to make representations in the

“asset freezing proceedings”.

(5B)	Rules of court must provide that any person or body who claims or may

reasonably be expected to claim to be the owner of or have any interest in any

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money or other property which may be affected by any order made in the “asset

freezing proceedings” shall be able to apply to vary or discharge that order.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

30

Page  42,  line  33  [Clause  59],  at end insert ‘but do include any person or body who

claims or may reasonably be expected to claim to be the owner of or to have an interest in

any money or other property which may be affected by any asset freezing decision or by

any decision made in the asset freezing proceedings.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Neil Gerrard

32

Page  42,  line  40  [Clause  60],  leave out ‘may’ and insert ‘shall’.

Mr Neil Gerrard

108

Page  43,  line  1  [Clause  60],  leave out ‘not’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

41

Page  50,  line  33,  leave out Clause 70.

Secretary Jacqui Smith

75

Page  51,  line  18  [Clause  71],  leave out from ‘about’ to ‘which’ in line 19 and insert

‘an individual who is or has been—

(i)	a member of Her Majesty’s forces,

(ii)	a member of any of the intelligence services, or

(iii)

a constable,’.

As an Amendment to Secretary Jacqui Smith’s proposed Amendment (No. 75):—

Mr Nick Clegg

Dr Vincent Cable

Chris Huhne

Tom Brake

David Howarth

Mr Paul Burstow

Total signatories: 7

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(a)

Line  5,  at end insert ‘or

(iv)	any other person holding office under the crown.’.

Mr Nick Clegg

Dr Vincent Cable

Chris Huhne

Tom Brake

David Howarth

Mr Paul Burstow

Total signatories: 7

123

Page  51,  line  19  [Clause  71],  leave out ‘is of a kind likely’ and insert ‘he intends’.

Secretary Jacqui Smith

76

Page  51,  line  22  [Clause  71],  leave out ‘information of that kind’ and insert ‘any

such information’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

42

Page  51,  line  24  [Clause  71],  after ‘prove’, insert ‘(a)’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

43

Page  51,  line  24  [Clause  71],  after ‘action’, insert—

‘(b)	that at the time of the alleged offence he did not know and had no reason

to know that the information was of a kind that was likely to be helpful

to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism;

(c)	that at the time of the alleged offence he did not know and had no reason

to know that the disclosure of such information was likely to be helpful

to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism; or

(d)	that at the time of the alleged offence disclosure of such information was

in the public interest.’.

Secretary Jacqui Smith

77

Page  51,  line  34  [Clause  71],  at end insert—

‘( )	In this section “the intelligence services” means the Security Service, the Secret

Intelligence Service and GCHQ (within the meaning of section 3 of the

Intelligence Services Act 1994).’

Mr Dominic Grieve

David Davis

Mr Crispin Blunt

11

Page  54,  line  8  [Clause  74],  leave out subsection (2).

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