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House of Commons

 
 

Tuesday 10th June 2008

 

Report Stage Proceedings

 

Counter-Terrorism Bill, As Amended


 

[first DAY]


 

new clauses, Amendments to clauses, New Schedules and Amendments to

 

Schedules Relating to part 1, Clauses 24 to 27 and Parts 4, 5, 7 and 8

 

Recording of interviews

 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Added  NC18

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

This section applies to any interview of a person by a constable under section 24,

 

25 or 26 (post-charge questioning).

 

(2)    

Except as provided by order of the Secretary of State—

 

(a)    

any such interview must be video recorded, and

 

(b)    

the video recording must be with sound.

 

(3)    

The Secretary of State must issue a code of practice about the video recording of

 

interviews to which this section applies.

 

(4)    

The interview and video recording must be conducted in accordance with that

 

code of practice.

 

(5)    

An order or code of practice under this section—

 

(a)    

may make provision in relation to a particular part of the United

 

Kingdom, and

 

(b)    

may make different provision for different parts of the United Kingdom.

 

(6)    

Any order under this section is subject to affirmative resolution procedure.’.

 


 

Issue and revision of code of practice

 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Added  NC19

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

This section applies to the code of practice under section [Recording of

 

interviews] (recording of interviews).


 
 

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(2)    

The Secretary of State must—

 

(a)    

publish a draft of the proposed code, and

 

(b)    

consider any representations made about the draft,

 

    

and may modify the draft in the light of the representations made.

 

(3)    

The Secretary of State must lay a draft of the code before Parliament.

 

(4)    

After laying the draft code before Parliament the Secretary of State may bring it

 

into operation by order.

 

(5)    

The order is subject to affirmative resolution procedure.

 

(6)    

The Secretary of State may revise a code and issue the revised code, and

 

subsections (2) to (5) apply to a revised code as they apply to an original code.

 

(7)    

Failure to observe a provision of a code does not of itself render a constable liable

 

to criminal or civil proceedings.

 

(8)    

A code—

 

(a)    

is admissible in evidence in criminal and civil proceedings, and

 

(b)    

shall be taken into account by a court or tribunal in any case in which it

 

appears to the court or tribunal to be relevant.’

 


 

Post-charge questioning: safeguards

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC4

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

Reference in this section to “post-charge questioning” relate only to post-charge

 

questioning for a terrorism offence, in accordance with section 27—

 

(a)    

in England and Wales, in accordance with section 24;

 

(b)    

in Scotland, in accordance with section 25; and

 

(c)    

in Northern Ireland, in accordance with section 26.

 

(2)    

Post-charge questioning must be judicially authorised in advance.

 

(3)    

Post-charge questioning shall be confined to questioning about new evidence

 

which has come to light since the accused person was charged and which could

 

not reasonable have come to light before.

 

(4)    

The total period of post-charge questioning shall last for no more than five days

 

in aggregate.

 

(5)    

Post-charge questioning may only take place in the presence of the defendant’s

 

lawyer.

 

(6)    

Post-charge questioning shall always be video-recorded.

 

(7)    

The judge who authorised post-charge questioning shall review the transcript of

 

the questioning after it has taken place, to ensure that it remained within the scope

 

of questioning under subsection (3) and was completed within the time allowed

 

under subsection (4).


 
 

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(8)    

Post-charge questioning for a terrorism offence shall never be permissible after

 

the beginning of the defendant’s trial for that offence.’.

 


 

Control orders: pre-conditions

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

Negatived on division  NC5

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After sub-paragraph (b) in section 2(1) of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005

 

there is inserted—

 

“; and (c) unless section 3(1)(b) below applies, the DPP has certified that

 

there is no reasonable prospect of successfully prosecuting the subject of

 

the order for a terrorism-related offence.”’.

 


 

Control orders: ongoing review of possibility of prosecution

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Dai Havard

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC6

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After subsection (6) of section 8 of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 there

 

is inserted—

 

“(6A)    

The Secretary of State shall, throughout the period during which the

 

control order has effect—

 

(a)    

ensure that the question of whether there is a reasonable prospect

 

of successfully prosecuting the subject of the order for a

 

terrorism-related offence is kept under review at least every three

 

months;

 

(b)    

consult the police prior to such review; and


 
 

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(c)    

share with the police such information as is available to him

 

which is relevant to the prospects of a successful prosecution.”’.

 


 

Control orders: reasons for decisions on prospects of prosecution

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Dai Havard

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC7

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After subsection (2) of section 8 of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 there

 

is inserted—

 

“(2A)    

If the chief officer advises the Secretary of State that there is no realistic

 

prospect of prosecution, he shall give reasons for his view.

 

(2B)    

The chief officer’s reasons shall be disclosed to the controlled person to

 

the extent that such disclosure would not be contrary to the public

 

interest.”’.

 


 

Control orders: cumulative effect of restrictions relevant to determination about

 

deprivation

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Dai Havard

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC8

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After subsection (10) of section 3 of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 there

 

is inserted—

 

“(10A)    

In determining whether the effect of a non-derogating control order is to

 

deprive a person of their liberty, the factors to which the court shall have

 

regard must include,

 

(a)    

the nature, duration, effects and manner of implementation of the

 

restrictions, and

 

(b)    

the cumulative effect of the obligations.


 
 

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(10B)    

The combination of obligations may amount to a deprivation of liberty

 

even if no individual obligation amounts to such a deprivation.”’.

 


 

Control orders: maximum limit on daily curfews

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Frank Cook

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC9

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After subsection (5) of section 1 of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 there

 

is inserted—

 

“(5A)    

The duration of any prohibition or restriction on the controlled person’s

 

movements shall not exceed 12 hours in any 24 hour period.”’.

 


 

Control orders: right to a fair hearing

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC10

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

At the end of subsection (13) of section 3 of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005

 

there is inserted—

 

    

“except where to do so would be incompatible with the right of the

 

controlled person to a fair hearing”.

 

(2)    

At the end of paragraph 4(2)(a) of the Schedule to the Prevention of Terrorism

 

Act 2005 there is inserted—

 

    

“except where to do so would be incompatible with the right of the

 

controlled person to a fair hearing”.

 

(3)    

At the end of paragraph 4(3)(d) of the Schedule to the Prevention of Terrorism

 

Act 2005 there is inserted—


 
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