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“except where to do so would be incompatible with the right of the

 

controlled person to a fair hearing”.

 

(4)    

After paragraph 4(5) in the Schedule to the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005

 

there is inserted—

 

“(6)    

Nothing in this paragraph, or in rules of court made under it, is to be read

 

as requiring the court to act in a manner inconsistent with the right to a

 

fair hearing in Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights.”’.

 


 

Control orders: obligation to give reasons

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Dai Havard

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC11

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

After subsection (4) of section 2 of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 there is

 

inserted—

 

“(4A)    

A non-derogating control order must contain as full as possible an

 

explanation of why the Secretary of State considers that the grounds in

 

section 2(1) above are made out.”’.

 


 

Control orders: obligation to provide gist of closed material

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Dai Havard

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC12

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

At the end of paragraph 4(3)(e) of the Schedule to the Prevention of Terrorism

 

Act 2005 there is inserted—


 
 

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“and must require the Secretary of State to provide a summary of any

 

material on which he intends to rely and on which fairness requires the

 

controlled person to have an opportunity to comment.”’.

 


 

Control orders: communications between special advocate and controlled person

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Dai Havard

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC13

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After sub-paragraph 7(5) in the Schedule to the Prevention of Terrorism Act

 

2005 there is inserted—

 

“(5A)    

Rules of court must secure that persons appointed under this paragraph

 

may apply to a High Court judge, without notice to the Secretary of State,

 

for permission to communicate with the controlled person after the

 

service of closed material.”’.

 


 

Control orders: proportionality of procedural protection

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Dai Havard

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC14

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After subsection 3(11) of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 there is

 

inserted—

 

“(11A)    

In a hearing to determine whether the Secretary of State’s decision is

 

flawed, the controlled person is entitled to such measure of procedural

 

protection as is commensurate with the gravity of the potential

 

consequences of the order for the controlled person.”’.

 



 
 

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Control orders: power of special advocates to call expert witnesses

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Dai Havard

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC15

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After paragraph 4(3)(e) of the Schedule to the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005

 

there is inserted—

 

“(ea)    

that, where permission is given by the relevant court not to

 

disclose material, persons appointed under paragraph 7 may call

 

witnesses to rebut the closed material.”’.

 


 

Control orders: maximum duration

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

John McDonnell

 

Mr Dai Havard

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC16

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After section 3 of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 there is inserted—

 

“3A    

Duration of non-derogating control orders

 

A non-derogating control order ceases to have effect at the end of the

 

period of two years from the date on which it was made, unless there are

 

exceptional circumstances justifying its renewal.”’.

 


 

Collection of information: defences

 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC17

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

Section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000 (c. 11) (collection of information) is

 

amended as follows.


 
 

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(2)    

In subsection (3), at end insert—

 

    

“or that at the time of the alleged offence he did not know and had no

 

reason to know that the information was of a kind likely to be useful to a

 

person committing or preparing an act of terrorism or that at the time of

 

the alleged offence it was in the public interest for him to collect or make

 

a record of such information or for him to possess such a document or

 

record.”’.

 


 

Disclosure and the intelligence services: safeguards

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

Not called  NC34

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘Information disclosed by virtue of sections 19(3)(c), 19(4)(d) or 19(5)(b) which

 

has been obtained from authorities or persons outside England and Wales, must

 

be accompanied by a statement—

 

(a)    

for section 19(3)(c), from the Director of the Security Service,

 

(b)    

for section 19(4(d), from the Chief of the Intelligence Service,

 

(c)    

for section 19(5)(b), from the Director of GCHQ,

 

setting out the steps taken to ascertain the circumstances in which such

 

information was obtained and that it had not been obtained by torture.’.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

David Davis

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Not called  6

 

Page  3,  line  12  [Clause  3],  at end insert ‘and the taking of such steps necessary to

 

ensure that any information contained in the item is not allowed to prejudice the

 

investigation or trial of any person.’.

 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  47

 

Page  3,  line  23  [Clause  4],  leave out ‘as soon as is reasonably practicable’.

 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  48

 

Page  3,  line  23  [Clause  4],  at end insert—


 
 

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‘( )    

The record must be made as soon as is reasonably practicable and in any event

 

within the period of 24 hours beginning with the time when the document was

 

removed.’.

 


 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

David Davis

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Not called  7

 

Page  4,  line  13  [Clause  4],  at end insert ‘and in any event within 24 hours.’.

 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  49

 

Page  4,  line  24  [Clause  5],  at end insert ‘if satisfied that—

 

(a)    

the examination of the document is being carried out expeditiously, and

 

(b)    

it is necessary to continue the examination for the purpose of ascertaining

 

whether the document is one that may be seized.’.

 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  50

 

Page  4,  line  33  [Clause  6],  at end insert—

 

‘(1A)    

Where—

 

(a)    

a document is retained by virtue of section 5, and

 

(b)    

a request for a copy of the document is made to the officer in charge of

 

the investigation by a person within subsection (2),

 

    

that person must be provided with a copy of the document within a reasonable

 

time from the making of the request, subject to subsection (3).’.

 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  51

 

Page  4,  line  34  [Clause  6],  leave out ‘such a request’ and insert ‘a request under

 

subsection (1) or (1A)’.

 


 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  52

 

Page  5,  line  1  [Clause  6],  after ‘document’, insert ‘, or (as the case may be) refuse

 

to provide a copy of it,’.

 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

Not called  17

 

Page  5,  line  9  [Clause  6],  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

Nothing in subsection (3) shall prevent the access to any item which is subject to

 

legal privilege and which is retained by virtue of section 3(4) where such access

 

is requested by any person mentioned in subsection (2).’.


 
 

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Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  53

 

Page  5,  line  18  [Clause  7],  after ‘that’, insert ‘—

 

(a)    

a document may be copied for the purpose of providing a copy in

 

response to a request under section 6(1A), and

 

(b)    

.’.

 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  54

 

Page  5,  line  21  [Clause  7],  leave out ‘such copy’ and insert ‘copy under subsection

 

(1)(b)’.

 


 

Mr Nick Clegg

 

Dr Vincent Cable

 

Chris Huhne

 

Tom Brake

 

David Howarth

 

Mr Paul Burstow

 

Not selected  110

 

Page  7,  line  11  [Clause  10],  leave out subsection (4).

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

David Davis

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Not selected  8

 

Page  7,  line  15  [Clause  10],  after ‘taken’, insert ‘for a maximum period of five

 

years’.

 


 

Mr Douglas Hogg

 

Not called  18

 

Page  15,  line  17  [Clause  19],  at end insert—

 

‘(7A)    

Nothing in this section shall authorise or require the disclosure of any information

 

by a person who came into possession of that information in his capacity as a

 

professional legal adviser and the information was obtained in any of the

 

circumstances that are set out in sections 19(5) and (6) of the Terrorism Act

 

2000.’.

 

Mr Andrew Dismore

 

Dr Evan Harris

 

John Austin

 

Mr Virendra Sharma

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  106

 

Page  15,  line  29  [Clause  20],  at end insert ‘or

 

(c)    

breaches—

 

(i)    

the Human Rights Act 1998 (c. 42),

 

(ii)    

the UN Convention Against Torture, or


 
 

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(iii)    

any other relevant international obligation concerning the

 

disclosure and use of information.’.

 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  55

 

Page  15,  line  33  [Clause  20],  leave out subsection (4).

 


 

Secretary Jacqui Smith

 

Agreed to  57

 

Page  17,  line  12  [Clause  24],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

The questioning of a person under this section —

 

(a)    

must be authorised in the first instance by an officer of at least the rank

 

of superintendant, and may be so authorised for a maximum of 24 hours

 

in total; and

 

(b)    

must subsequently be authorised by a justice of the peace, and may be so

 

authorised—

 

(i)    

on initial application, for a maximum of five days in total

 

(including the 24 hours mentioned in paragraph (a)), and

 

(ii)    

on subsequent application, for further periods each of up to five

 

days in total.

 

( )    

A justice of the peace must not authorise the questioning of a person under this

 

section unless satisfied—

 

(a)    

that further questioning of the person is necessary in the interests of

 

justice, and

 

(b)    

that the investigation for the purposes of which the further questioning is

 

proposed is being conducted diligently and expeditiously.’.

 

Mr Dominic Grieve

 

David Davis

 

Mr Crispin Blunt

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  16

 

Page  17,  line  12  [Clause  24],  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

Subject to subsections (3B) to (3E) a constable may question a person about a

 

related terrorism offence where the person has already been charged with, or been

 

officially informed that they may be prosecuted for, a terrorism offence.

 

(3B)    

A police officer of at least the rank of superintendent may make an application to

 

a judge of the Crown Court for permission to allow a constable to question a

 

person under subsection (2), if the police officer reasonably believes that the

 

person may be charged with a related terrorism offence.

 

(3C)    

A judge may grant permission for further questioning under subsection (2) only

 

if satisfied by evidence that:

 

(a)    

there are reasonable grounds for believing that the original charge was

 

appropriate to bring; and

 

(b)    

it is in the interests of justice to allow further questioning in the

 

circumstances.

 

(3D)    

Where a judge grants permission for further questioning under subsection (2C) he

 

shall make such directions as he considers appropriate with regard to:

 

(a)    

the maximum permitted period for further questioning;


 
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