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	Report Stage Proceedings: 10th June 2008                 558
	Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not selected  41
	Page  50,  line  33,  leave out Clause 70.
	Secretary Jacqui Smith
		Agreed to  75
	Page  51,  line  18  [Clause  71],  leave out from ‘about’ to ‘which’ in line 19 and insert
	‘an individual who is or has been—
		(i)     a member of Her Majesty’s forces,
		(ii)     a member of any of the intelligence services, or
		(iii)     a constable,’.
		As an Amendment to Secretary Jacqui Smith’s proposed Amendment (No. 75):—
	Mr Nick Clegg
	Dr Vincent Cable
	Chris Huhne
	Tom Brake
	David Howarth
	Mr Paul Burstow
		Not called  (a)
	Line  5,  at end insert ‘or
		(iv)     any other person holding office under the crown.’.
	Mr Nick Clegg
	Dr Vincent Cable
	Chris Huhne
	Tom Brake
	David Howarth
	Mr Paul Burstow
		Not called  123
	Page  51,  line  19  [Clause  71],  leave out ‘is of a kind likely’ and insert ‘he intends’.
	Secretary Jacqui Smith
		Agreed to  76
	Page  51,  line  22  [Clause  71],  leave out ‘information of that kind’ and insert ‘any
	such information’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  42
	Page  51,  line  24  [Clause  71],  after ‘prove’, insert ‘(a)’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
	Mr Elfyn Llwyd
		Not called  43
	Page  51,  line  24  [Clause  71],  after ‘action’, insert—
		‘(b)     that at the time of the alleged offence he did not know and had no reason
		to know that the information was of a kind that was likely to be helpful
		to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism;
	Report Stage Proceedings: 10th June 2008                 559
	Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued
		(c)     that at the time of the alleged offence he did not know and had no reason
		to know that the disclosure of such information was likely to be helpful
		to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism; or
		(d)     that at the time of the alleged offence disclosure of such information was
		in the public interest.’.
	Secretary Jacqui Smith
		Agreed to  77
	Page  51,  line  34  [Clause  71],  at end insert—
		‘( )     In this section “the intelligence services” means the Security Service, the Secret
		Intelligence Service and GCHQ (within the meaning of section 3 of the
		Intelligence Services Act 1994).’
	Mr Dominic Grieve
	David Davis
	Mr Crispin Blunt
		Negatived on division  11
	Page  54,  line  8  [Clause  74],  leave out subsection (2).
	Mr Dominic Grieve
	David Davis
	Mr Crispin Blunt
		Not called  12
	Page  54,  line  40  [Clause  76],  leave out subsection (4).
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  44
	Page  61,  line  11  [Clause  92],  leave out from ‘proceedings)’ to end of line 12 and
	insert ‘shall not come into effect until the rules of court shall have been approved by a
	resolution of each House of Parliament as provided for in section 63(4).’.
	Mr Dominic Grieve
	David Davis
	Mr Crispin Blunt
		Not called  14
	Page  61,  line  18  [Clause  92],  at end insert ‘, subject to subsection (7).’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  45
	Page  61,  line  18  [Clause  92],  at end insert ‘subject to subsections (7) and (8)’.
	Mr Dominic Grieve
	David Davis
	Mr Crispin Blunt
	Mr Elfyn Llwyd
		Not called  13
	Page  61,  line  21  [Clause  92],  at end add—
	Report Stage Proceedings: 10th June 2008                 560
	Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued
		‘(7)     Section 24 (post-charge questioning: England and Wales) shall not come into
		effect until the codes of practice under section 66 of the Police and Criminal
		Evidence Act 1984 (c. 60) and referred to in section 24(4) shall have been agreed
		by a resolution of each House of Parliament.’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
	Mr Elfyn Llwyd
		Not called  46
	Page  61,  line  21  [Clause  92],  at end add—
		‘(7)     Section 22 (period of pre-charge detention) and Schedule 2(amendments relating
		to a period of pre-charge detention) shall not come into effect until the codes of
		practice under section 66 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984
		regulating such detention shall have been approved by a resolution of each House
		of Parliament.
		(8)     Section 24 (period of post-charge questioning) shall not come into effect until the
		codes of practice under section 66 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984
		and referred to in section 24(4) shall be approved by a resolution of each House
		of Parliament.’.
	New Clauses, Amendments to clauses, new Schedules and Amendments to
	Schedules relating to part 3
	Secretary Jacqui Smith
		Agreed to  60
	Page  20,  line  39  [Clause  28],  at end insert—
		‘( )     In section 1 of the Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Act 2007 (c. 6) (issue
		of certificate for trial without a jury), after subsection (6) insert—
		“(6A)     The Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland may not issue a
		certificate under subsection (2) if—
		(a)     the proceedings are taken in Northern Ireland only by virtue of
		section 28 of the Counter-Terrorism Act 2008, and
		(b)     it appears to the Director that the only condition that is met is
		condition 4.”.’.
	Mr Nick Clegg
	Dr Vincent Cable
	Chris Huhne
	Tom Brake
	David Howarth
	Mr Paul Burstow
		Not called  111
	Page  20,  line  39  [Clause  28],  at end insert—
		“(6A)     Where this section applies to an offence committed in Scotland, proceedings may
		only be taken in another part of the United Kingdom following consultation with,
		and with the consent of, the Lord Advocate.”.
	Report Stage Proceedings: 10th June 2008                 561
	Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued
	Secretary Jacqui Smith
	Mr Dominic Grieve
	David Davis
	Mr Crispin Blunt
		Agreed to  9
	Page  20,  line  40  [Clause  28],  leave out subsection (7).
	Mr Nick Clegg
	Dr Vincent Cable
	Chris Huhne
	Tom Brake
	David Howarth
	Mr Paul Burstow
		Not called  112
	Page  21,  line  14  [Clause  30],  leave out first ‘court’ and insert ‘jury’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not selected  19
	Page  21,  line  14  [Clause  30],  after ‘determines’, insert ‘beyond reasonable doubt’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  79
	Page  22,  line  13  [Clause  33],  after ‘property’, insert ‘in respect of’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  80
	Page  22,  line  14  [Clause  33],  after ‘which’, insert ‘the court is sure that’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  81
	Page  22,  line  17  [Clause  33],  leave out ‘had reasonable cause to suspect’ and insert
	‘suspected’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  82
	Page  22,  line  22  [Clause  33],  after ‘which’, insert ‘the court is sure’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  83
	Page  22,  line  24  [Clause  33],  leave out ‘had reasonable cause to suspect’ and insert
	‘suspected’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  84
	Page  22,  line  29  [Clause  33],  after ‘which’, insert ‘the court is sure’.
	Report Stage Proceedings: 10th June 2008                 562
	Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  85
	Page  22,  line  35  [Clause  33],  after ‘which’, insert ‘the court is sure’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  86
	Page  22,  line  40  [Clause  33],  after ‘which’, insert ‘the court is sure’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  87
	Page  22,  line  43  [Clause  33],  after ‘property’, insert ‘in respect of’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  88
	Page  23,  line  1  [Clause  33],  after ‘which’, insert ‘the court was sure was’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  89
	Page  23,  line  1  [Clause  33],  leave out ‘is’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  90
	Page  23,  line  11  [Clause  34],  after ‘which’, insert ‘the court is sure that’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  20
	Page  24,  line  19  [Clause  35],  after ‘section’, insert ‘and where the court is satisfied
	on the balance of probabilities that the person is the owner or otherwise has an interest in
	anything which otherwise might be subject to forfeiture under that section and considers
	that it would be unjust to that person to make an order of forfeiture the court shall not
	make such an order but shall make such other order as seems to the court to be just.’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not called  91
	Page  24,  line  23  [Clause  35],  after ‘person’, insert ‘or on any person dependent
	upon the convicted person’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
	Mr Elfyn Llwyd
		Not called  92
	Page  27,  line  16  [Clause  37],  at end insert ‘and where the court is satisfied on the
	balance of probabilities that the person making the claim is the owner of or otherwise has
	an interest in anything which otherwise might be subject to forfeiture under this section
	and considers that it would be unjust to that person to make an order of forfeiture, the court
	Report Stage Proceedings: 10th June 2008                 563
	Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued
	shall not make such an order but shall make such other order as seems to the court to be
	just.’.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
	Mr Elfyn Llwyd
		Not called  93
	Page  28,  line  2  [Clause  37],  at end insert ‘and where the court is satisfied on the
	balance of probabilities that the person making the claim is the owner of or otherwise has
	an interest in anything which might otherwise be subject to forfeiture under this section
	and it considers that it would be unjust to that person to make an order of forfeiture the
	court shall not make such an order but shall make such other order as seems to the court
	to be just.’.
	New clauses, Amendments to Clauses, New Schedules and Amendments to
	Schedules Relating to Part 6
	Mr Andrew Dismore
	Dr Evan Harris
	John Austin
	Mr Virendra Sharma
	John McDonnell
	Mr Dominic Grieve
	Mr Elfyn Llwyd
		Negatived on division  1
	Page  45,  line  12,  leave out Clause 65.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
	Mr Nick Clegg
	Dr Vincent Cable
	Chris Huhne
	Tom Brake
	David Howarth
	Mr Elfyn Llwyd
		Not called  33
	Page  45,  line  23  [Clause  65],  leave out subsections (b) and (c).
	Mr Douglas Hogg
	Mr Elfyn Llwyd
		Not selected  34
	Page  45,  line  29  [Clause  65],  at end insert—
		‘(2A)     A certificate may not be issued unless the Secretary of State has obtained prior
		written approval from the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales certifying that
	Report Stage Proceedings: 10th June 2008                 564
	Counter-Terrorism Bill, continued
		in his opinion the issue of the certificate would satisfy the requirements of section
		1 (appointment of coroners).’.
	Mr Andrew Dismore
	Dr Evan Harris
	John Austin
	Mr Virendra Sharma
	John McDonnell
	Mr Dominic Grieve
		Not called  2
	Page  46,  line  21,  leave out Clause 66.
	Mr Douglas Hogg
	Mr Nick Clegg
	Dr Vincent Cable
	Chris Huhne
	Tom Brake
	David Howarth
		Not called  35
	Page  46,  line  34  [Clause  66],  leave out subsections (b) and (c).
	Mr Douglas Hogg
		Not selected  36
	Page  46,  line  40  [Clause  66],  at end insert—
		‘(2A)     A certificate may not be issued unless the Secretary of State has obtained prior
		written approval from the Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland certifying that
		in his opinion the issue of the certificate would satisfy the requirements of
		subsection (1).’.
	Mr Andrew Dismore
	Dr Evan Harris
	John Austin
	Mr Virendra Sharma
	John McDonnell
	Mr Dominic Grieve
	Mr Elfyn Llwyd
		Not called  3
	Page  47,  line  30,  leave out Clause 67.

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