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House of Commons

 
 

Wednesday 22nd October 2008

 

Report Stage Proceedings

 

Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [Lords], As Amended


 

Mark Simmonds

 

Mr Peter Bone

 

Mr David Amess

 

Miss Ann Widdecombe

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr David Drew

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Mr Tom Clarke

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Jim Dobbin

 

Mark Pritchard

 

Angela Watkinson

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas

 

Mr David Crausby

 

Mark Durkan

 

John Mason

 

Mr John Hayes

 

Mr Julian Brazier

 

Dr John Pugh

 

Mr Brian Binley

 

Paul Rowen

 

Geraldine Smith

 

Mr William Cash

 

Not selected  46

 

Page  3  [Clause  3],  leave out lines 21 to 26.

 

Dr John Pugh

 

Negatived on division  49

 

Page  3,  line  26  [Clause  3],  after ‘transmission’, insert ‘via cytoplasm’.

 

Mr David Drew

 

Mr Michael Meacher

 

David Taylor

 

Miss Ann Widdecombe

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Angela Watkinson

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr William Cash

 

Mr Tom Clarke

 

Jim Dobbin

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Mark Pritchard

 

Angela Watkinson

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Dr Vincent Cable

 

Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas

 

Mr David Crausby

 

Mark Durkan

 

John Mason

 

Mr Julian Brazier

 

Dr John Pugh

 

Mr Brian Binley

 

Paul Rowen

 

Geraldine Smith

 

Mr David Amess

 

Michael Jabez Foster

 

Negatived on division  41

 

Page  3,  line  26  [Clause  3],  at end insert—

 

‘(5A)    

Regulations made under subsection (5) may not provide for an egg or embryo

 

whose nuclear genetic material has been altered by genetic modification, or


 
 

Report Stage Proceedings: 22nd October 2008              

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whose nucleus has been replaced by the nucleus of a somatic cell, to be a

 

permitted egg or a permitted embryo.

 

(5B)    

In this section, “genetic modification” includes the alteration of the nuclear

 

genetic material of an egg or embryo by—

 

(a)    

recombinant nucleic acid techniques which change the DNA sequence of

 

nuclear chromosomes of the egg or one or more cells of the embryo, or

 

(b)    

the introduction into the egg or into one or more cells of the embryo of a

 

stably-maintained artificial chromosome, virus or plasmid.’.

 

Dr John Pugh

 

Miss Ann Widdecombe

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr David Drew

 

Mr Peter Bone

 

Mr Tom Clarke

 

Jim Dobbin

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Angela Watkinson

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas

 

Mr David Crausby

 

Mark Durkan

 

John Mason

 

Mr Julian Brazier

 

Dr John Pugh

 

Mr Brian Binley

 

Paul Rowen

 

Geraldine Smith

 

Mr David Amess

 

Mr William Cash

 

Not selected  48

 

Page  3,  line  31  [Clause  3],  leave out subsection (6).

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  4

 

Page  4,  line  8  [Clause  4],  leave out ‘the keeping or using of’ and insert ‘keeping or

 

using’.

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Miss Ann Widdecombe

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr David Drew

 

Mark Pritchard

 

Angela Watkinson

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas

 

Mr David Crausby

 

Mark Durkan

 

John Mason

 

Mr David Amess

 

Negatived on division  47

 

Page  4,  line  37  [Clause  4],  at end insert—

 

‘(f)    

an embryo created by combining pluripotent or totipotent human cells

 

with amimal embryonic cells in which the latter have been altered so as

 

to contain double the number of chromosomes, or in which the animal

 

cells have been otherwise altered to become largely or entirely extra-

 

embryonic tissue.’.

 



 
 

Report Stage Proceedings: 22nd October 2008              

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Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  5

 

Page  5,  line  3  [Clause  4],  after ‘but’, insert ‘(except in subsection (9))’.

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  6

 

Page  9,  line  35  [Clause  14],  leave out ‘being treated’ and insert ‘mentioned in

 

subsection (6A)’.

 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  7

 

Page  9,  line  38  [Clause  14],  leave out ‘to be treated’ and insert ‘mentioned in

 

subsection (6A)’.

 


 

Philip Davies

 

Mr William Cash

 

Not called  40

 

Page  10  [Clause  14],  leave out lines 33 to 40.

 


 

Dr Nick Palmer

 

Not called  43

 

Page  12,  line  7  [Clause  15],  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

After subsection (4) insert—

 

“(4A)    

Any person whose embryos are in storage may, for a period of 90 days

 

following the commencement of the Human Fertilisation and

 

Embryology Act 2008, apply to extend the period of their storage to a

 

maximum of 10 years in total.

 

(4B)    

Notwithstanding paragraph (c) of subsection (1), no embryos which are

 

subject to an application under subsection (4A) shall be allowed to perish

 

before the Authority has reached a decision on that application.”.’.

 


 

Dr Vincent Cable

 

Not selected  3

 

Page  18,  line  34  [Clause  22],  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

After subsection (4) insert—

 

“(4A)    

In default of the exercise of the Authority of its power to make a direction

 

under this section, a judge of the High Court may give permission for


 
 

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gametes stored under Schedule 3 sub-paragraph 1(2A) of this Act to be

 

used within the UK or exported and used outside the United Kingdom.”’.

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  75

 

Page  33,  line  6  [Clause  29],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

In subsection (7), for “section 10(2)(a)” substitute “section 19B(3)(a) or

 

20B(3)(e)”.’.

 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  76

 

Page  33,  line  11  [Clause  29],  leave out ‘(7) or’.

 

Mrs Nadine Dorries

 

Mr William Cash

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Mr David Amess

 

Not selected  83

 

Page  33,  line  41  [Clause  29],  at end insert—

 

‘(10B)    

It shall be an offence for people to use human gametes, as such, to give rise to

 

financial gain or comparable advantage, subject to subsection (10C).

 

(10C)    

Subsection (10B) shall not prevent payments which do not constitute a financial

 

gain or a comparable advantage, in particular—

 

(a)    

compensation of living donors for loss of earnings and any other

 

justifiable expenses caused by the donation or by the related medical

 

examinations;

 

(b)    

payment of a justifiable fee for legitimate medical or related technical

 

services rendered in connection with donation.’.

 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  77

 

Page  33,  line  42  [Clause  29],  leave out ‘, (6) and (7)’ and insert ‘and (6)’.

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  8

 

Page  34,  line  35  [Clause  30],  at end insert—

 

‘section 20A(3);

 

section 20B(2)’.

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  9

 

Page  37,  line  42  [Clause  37],  at end insert—


 
 

Report Stage Proceedings: 22nd October 2008              

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‘( )    

A notice under subsection (1)(a), (b) or (c) by a person (“S”) who is unable to sign

 

because of illness, injury or physical disability is to be taken to comply with the

 

requirement of subsection (2) as to signature if it is signed at the direction of S,

 

in the presence of S and in the presence of at least one witness who attests the

 

signature.’.

 


 

Andrew Selous

 

Miss Ann Widdecombe

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Angela Watkinson

 

Mr David Drew

 

Mr William Cash

 

Mr Tom Clarke

 

Jim Dobbin

 

David Taylor

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Mark Pritchard

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas

 

Mr David Crausby

 

Mark Durkan

 

John Mason

 

Mr Julian Brazier

 

Mr John Hayes

 

Dr John Pugh

 

Mr Brian Binley

 

Paul Rowen

 

Geraldine Smith

 

Mr Angus McNeil

 

Mr Gary Streeter

 

David T. C. Davies

 

Mr Desmond Swayne

 

Mr David Amess

 

Mr David Blunkett

 

Hon Nicholas Soames

 

Mr Michael Ancram

 

Not called  70

 

Page  40,  line  19,  leave out Clause 42.

 

Andrew Selous

 

Miss Ann Widdecombe

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Angela Watkinson

 

Mr David Drew

 

Mr William Cash

 

Mr Tom Clarke

 

Jim Dobbin

 

David Taylor

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Mark Pritchard

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas

 

Mr David Crausby

 

Mark Durkan

 

John Mason

 

Mr Julian Brazier

 

Mr John Hayes

 

Dr John Pugh

 

Mr Brian Binley

 

Paul Rowen

 

Geraldine Smith

 

Mr Angus McNeil

 

Mr Gary Streeter

 

David T. C. Davies

 

Mr Desmond Swayne

 

Mr David Amess

 

Mr David Blunkett

 

Hon Nicholas Soames

 

Mr Michael Ancram

 

Not called  71

 

Page  40,  line  28,  leave out Clause 43.

 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  10

 

Page  40,  line  31  [Clause  43],  leave out ‘she’ and insert ‘W’.

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  11

 

Page  41,  line  23  [Clause  44],  at end insert—


 
 

Report Stage Proceedings: 22nd October 2008              

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‘( )    

A notice under subsection (1)(a), (b) or (c) by a person (“S”) who is unable to sign

 

because of illness, injury or physical disability is to be taken to comply with the

 

requirement of subsection (2) as to signature if it is signed at the direction of S,

 

in the presence of S and in the presence of at least one witness who attests the

 

signature.’.

 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  12

 

Page  41,  line  42  [Clause  46],  leave out ‘the woman’ and insert ‘W’.

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  13

 

Page  44,  line  26  [Clause  50],  leave out third ‘the’ and insert ‘any’.

 


 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Mark Durkan

 

Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas

 

Mr Julian Brazier

 

Dr John Pugh

 

Mr Brian Binley

 

Mr John Hayes

 

Geraldine Smith

 

Mr Angus McNeil

 

Miss Ann Widdecombe

 

Mr Gary Streeter

 

David T. C. Davies

 

Mr Desmond Swayne

 

Mr David Amess

 

Hon Nicholas Soames

 

Mr Michael Ancram

 

Not called  80

 

Page  46,  line  39  [Clause  54],  leave out paragraph (b).

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr Nigel Waterson

 

Mark Durkan

 

Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas

 

Mr Julian Brazier

 

Dr John Pugh

 

Mr Brian Binley

 

Mr John Hayes

 

Geraldine Smith

 

Mr Angus McNeil

 

Miss Ann Widdecombe

 

Mr Gary Streeter

 

David T. C. Davies

 

Mr Desmond Swayne

 

Mr David Amess

 

Hon Nicholas Soames

 

Mr Michael Ancram

 

Not called  81

 

Page  46,  line  40  [Clause  54],  after ‘persons’, insert ‘not of the same sex’.

 



 
 

Report Stage Proceedings: 22nd October 2008              

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Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  14

 

Page  48,  line  17  [Clause  55],  leave out ‘relating to’ and insert ‘about’.

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  15

 

Page  49,  line  34  [Clause  59],  after first ‘any’, insert ‘reasonable’.

 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  16

 

Page  49,  line  37  [Clause  59],  after ‘any’, insert ‘reasonable’.

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  17

 

Page  50,  line  1  [Clause  59],  after first ‘any’, insert ‘reasonable’.

 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  18

 

Page  50,  line  3  [Clause  59],  after ‘any’, insert ‘reasonable’.

 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  19

 

Page  50,  line  5  [Clause  59],  at end insert—

 

‘(2C)    

Any reference in subsection (2A) or (2B) to a reasonable payment in

 

respect of the doing of an act by a non-profit making body is a reference

 

to a payment not exceeding the body’s costs reasonably attributable to the

 

doing of the act.’.

 


 

Secretary Alan Johnson

 

Agreed to  20

 

Page  51,  line  42  [Clause  64],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

An order under this section which modifies an enactment in consequence of any

 

provision of Part 2 may modify subsection (5) of section 53 (interpretation of

 

references to father etc.).’.

 



 
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