The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chairman:
Mrs.
Janet
Dean
Burt,
Lorely
(Solihull)
(LD)
Clappison,
Mr. James
(Hertsmere)
(Con)
Dobbin,
Jim
(Heywood and Middleton)
(Lab/Co-op)
Duddridge,
James
(Rochford and Southend, East)
(Con)
Hill,
Keith
(Streatham)
(Lab)
Jones,
Lynne
(Birmingham, Selly Oak)
(Lab)
Naysmith,
Dr. Doug
(Bristol, North-West)
(Lab/Co-op)
Pound,
Stephen
(Ealing, North)
(Lab)
Purchase,
Mr. Ken
(Wolverhampton, North-East)
(Lab/Co-op)
Robinson,
Mr. Geoffrey
(Coventry, North-West)
(Lab)
Seabeck,
Alison
(Plymouth, Devonport)
(Lab)
Shepherd,
Mr. Richard
(Aldridge-Brownhills)
(Con)
Simmonds,
Mark
(Boston and Skegness)
(Con)
Simpson,
Alan
(Nottingham, South)
(Lab)
Streeter,
Mr. Gary
(South-West Devon)
(Con)
Teather,
Sarah
(Brent, East)
(LD)
Thomas,
Mr. Gareth
(Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for
International Development)
Keith
Neary, Committee Clerk
attended the Committee
Fifth
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Wednesday 6
February
2008
[Mrs.
Janet Dean
in the
Chair]
Draft Companies (Trading Disclosures) Regulations 2008
2.30
pm
The
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and
Regulatory Reform (Mr. Gareth Thomas):
I beg to
move,
That the
Committee has considered the draft Companies (Trading Disclosures)
Regulations
2008.
Before
I begin, may I express what I am sure is the universal opinion of
Committee members and say what a pleasure it is to serve under your
chairmanship, Mrs. Dean? The regulations will ensure that
the legal identity of a company is made known to all who have, or wish
to have, dealings with it. They also ensure that those wishing to
inspect a companys records or to serve a document on a company
can find the right premises. They cover company communications and
signs at company premises, and they replace the requirements not only
in the Companies Act 1985, but in the Business Names Act 1985 and the
equivalent Northern Ireland legislation that applies to UK
companies.
Any
company that carries on business under a name other than its registered
name is subject to disclosure requirements under both Acts. The new
requirements are similar but not identical to those requirements, and
the regulations will help to remove the confusion arising from two sets
of rules. There will be some changes to the requirements relating to
company documents. In particular, companies will have to include their
names in all forms of business correspondence and documentation, not,
as at present, just in those that are listed. The list has been
expanded to include, for example, orders for services, because at
present, the Companies Act 1985 requires the companys name to
be included only in orders for money or goods, not in orders for
services, so the regulations will correct that anomaly. The list also
includes all written demands for paymentnot, as at present,
invoices aloneand it further includes applications for licences
to carry on a trade or
activity.
For
companies that are subject to the Business Names Act 1985 or the
Northern Ireland equivalent, the regulations mean that they will no
longer be obliged to include an address in the United Kingdom for the
service of documents in their receipts, invoices and other demands for
payment. On signs, there are no new requirements for any companies. No
company that is fully compliant with the current law will have to make
any changes whatever to the signs at its premises. The regulations are
less burdensome than the existing requirements, particularly for any
company that carries on business under a name that is not its
registered name.
For
the most part, the regulations require no more than what it is in the
interest of most companies to do in any event. A company is not an
individual, but a
legal person, owing its legal identity to incorporation, and it is
essential that the identity of that legal person is made public in all
relevant circumstances. The regulations are needed to protect not just
shareholders, but the general
public.
2.33
pm
Mr.
James Clappison (Hertsmere) (Con): Mrs. Dean,
may I join the Minister in saying what a great pleasure it is to serve
under your chairmanship? We support the underlying and long-established
objective of the regulations. I understand that they are subject to the
affirmative resolution procedure, but we agree that it is important, as
the Minister said, for the legal identity of every company to be
revealed to all who have, or wish to have, dealings with it.
Transparency is important for companies, and it should apply to
documents, including business letters, order forms, websites, company
premises and registered offices. We accept that changes in the world
such as the advent of electronic communication mean that regulations
must be updated from time to time, but we hope that the regulations
become settled and do not change for some time, because it is in
everybodys interest to understand the system generally, and for
the system not to change constantly.
The
regulations were subject to consultation, and we note its outcome. It
was not an earth-shattering consultation, and I wish to ask only one
question. Given the underlying objective of transparency, which we
share, what is the position of an overseas company that is not
incorporated either in this country or in a European Union member
state? How do the requirements of disclosure in the regulations relate
to such an overseas company?
2.35
pm
Sarah
Teather (Brent, East) (LD): May I, too, welcome you to the
Chair, Mrs. Dean? I have just one question for the
MinisterI have no other issues with the statutory
instrumentthat relates to page 11 of the explanatory notes,
which states that there is an intention to introduce further exemptions
relating to directors home addresses. When those exemptions are
made, there will be a similar exemption for company names if there is a
possibility of violence against those companies. I should like to know
when that exemption is going to made, because the statutory instrument
is going to come into effect on 1 October, and companies will be in
difficulty if they try to make sure that they comply with the
regulations before 1 October while not knowing whether or they will
secure an exemption. That applies, for example, to Huntingdon Life
Sciences and other companies where there is a risk of violence against
people who work for the organisation. I should like an assurance from
the Minister that the exemption regulations will be introduced before 1
October, and I would be grateful for an indication of when they will be
made.
2.36
pm
Mr.
Thomas:
I shall try to give reassurance on the
questions I have been asked. May I tell the hon. Member for Hertsmere
that we, too, want the regulations to represent a settled pattern? As I
made clear in my opening remarks, for those companies that are
completely compliant with the law, there will be no requirement for
fundamental change. As he said, there was a consultation to check with
business its view of the situation. One issue that emerged was the
problem to which the hon. Member for Brent, East referred. She used the
example of Huntingdon Life Sciences, but another example is someone who
sells diamonds from their home, and their home address is not the
companys registered
office.
In response to
the specific question asked by the hon. Member for Hertsmere asked
about the position of overseas companies in relation to trading and
disclosures, there are requirements for all such companies in the
regulations. We will tailor the requirements on those overseas
companies, but they are included in the measure. The hon. Member for
Brent, East asked about exemptions. From 1 October 2009, the exemption
for sensitive premises will be introduced. We are conscious of the need
to move as quickly as possible, but I hope that she recognises that we
need to give certainty to business about the time scale. I am sure that
everybody wants to move as quickly as possible, but that is the point
at which we will introduce the exemption.
Sarah
Teather:
I am a little concerned by the Ministers
answer, because the regulations come into play on 1 October 2008.
Companies will be required to label any place where they undertake
business between now and 2009. Once the exemptions come into force,
they can remove those signs, but it will be too late at that point, and
some businesses will have to move offices. It is not satisfactory to
introduce the regulations, followed by the exemptions a year
later.
Mr.
Thomas:
I accept the hon. Ladys concern, and
without doubt consideration will be given to complaints about the
exemption and the time scale. Companies are already required to provide
signs at their premises, so any company that complies with the law at
the moment will not have to fundamentally change its work patterns. The
hon. Lady asked a specific question about the time, and I have given
her details of when that exemption will come into
force.
Question put
and agreed to.
Committee rose a
t
twenty one minutes to Three
o
clock.