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Housing and Regeneration Bill

Housing and Regeneration Bill



The Committee consisted of the following Members:

Chairmen: Mr. Joe Benton, Mr. Roger Gale
Blackman, Liz (Vice-Chamberlain of Her Majesty's Household)
Blackman-Woods, Dr. Roberta (City of Durham) (Lab)
Brown, Lyn (West Ham) (Lab)
Burt, Alistair (North-East Bedfordshire) (Con)
George, Andrew (St. Ives) (LD)
Gwynne, Andrew (Denton and Reddish) (Lab)
Hurd, Mr. Nick (Ruislip-Northwood) (Con)
Love, Mr. Andrew (Edmonton) (Lab/Co-op)
Moran, Margaret (Luton, South) (Lab)
Öpik, Lembit (Montgomeryshire) (LD)
Raynsford, Mr. Nick (Greenwich and Woolwich) (Lab)
Shapps, Grant (Welwyn Hatfield) (Con)
Slaughter, Mr. Andy (Ealing, Acton and Shepherd's Bush) (Lab)
Smith, Ms Angela C. (Sheffield, Hillsborough) (Lab)
Syms, Mr. Robert (Poole) (Con)
Wright, Mr. Iain (Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government)
Young, Sir George (North-West Hampshire) (Con)
Hannah Weston, Committee Clerk
† attended the Committee

Public Bill Committee

Tuesday 22 January 2008

(Afternoon)

[Mr. Joe Benton in the Chair]

Housing and Regeneration Bill

New Clause 24

Shared ownership leases: protection for certain limited equity leases
‘In paragraph 3(2)(f) of Schedule 4A to the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 (c. 88) (exclusion from enfranchisement for certain shared ownership leases granted by housing associations: condition that lease provides for the tenant to acquire the landlord’s interest)—
(a) after “acquire” insert “all of”, and
(b) after “prescribed” insert “or provides for the tenant to acquire some of the landlord’s interest on terms specified in the lease and complying with such requirements as may be prescribed”.’.—[Mr. Wright.]
Brought up, and read the First time.
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government (Mr. Iain Wright): I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
4 pm
The Chairman: With this it will be convenient to discuss Government new clause 25—Shared ownership leases: protection for hard to replace houses.
Mr. Wright: Good afternoon, Mr. Benton. In this morning’s sitting, I touched on the concerns expressed by the hon. Member for St. Ives about which providers will be covered by new clause 25, and I hope that I provided reassurance that the new clause will apply to all providers in a protected area.
The hon. Gentleman also mentioned concerns about the new clauses being a top-down approach, with the Secretary of State being in the front seat on any designation order. I hope that the Committee will not mind my reiterating what I said in moving new clauses 24 and 25: the local authority will be able to designate specific sites in a particular area, and the Secretary of State will then make the order.
This brings me to the fundamental theme of the line of questioning this morning. My right hon. Friend the Member for Greenwich and Woolwich wisely queried the definition of a rural area. He mentioned the current definition of, I believe, 3,000 inhabitants. I am in the same place as my right hon. Friend and do not want to indicate that the area should be drawn too tightly. The area should be appropriate, and I have an open mind on the point. My right hon. Friend’s point about 3,000 inhabitants is valid, and it is a good starting point. As I mentioned this morning, I am keen to look at the matter in the context of consultation and discussion with stakeholders. The question whether the rural definition can be applied to an urban setting—obviously, with regard to different concerns and considerations—is a good starting point. I hope that that reassures him.
The hon. Member for St. Ives has mentioned concerns about section 106 agreements. The new clauses will not affect any existing agreements, such as planning or nomination rights. I hope that that reassures him.
I hope that I have addressed all concerns raised by hon. Members.
Andrew George (St. Ives) (LD): As someone who is keen to ensure that local communities drive the process as far as possible with the Secretary of State taking a back seat in endorsing and ensuring that they operate within the purpose of the regulation, I want to be clear on how the Minister envisages a local authority drawing up or making recommendations on drawing up the boundaries of the protected area. In many rural areas, it is difficult to define whether the parish boundary should be drawn around the 3,000 population or whether the boundary should be drawn around a clear community within that parish, as many parishes have a large number of communities within their boundaries. Such issues need to be resolved. I know that many local authorities will be keen, quite rightly, to draw these protected areas as widely as possible.
Mr. Wright: I agree with the hon. Gentleman that the process should be driven locally, as a lot of housing developments should be. I do not want to pre-empt the consultation on criteria, but it is important that this is a locally driven process where local authorities take the leading role and then apply to the Secretary of State for the order. Local circumstances will demand what local authorities will do. I am a big fan of that approach, and I hope that reassures him. We can see this as another powerful tool to make sure that affordable housing remains affordable in perpetuity.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause read a Second time, and added to the Bill.

New Clause 25

Shared ownership leases: protection for hard to replace houses
‘After paragraph 4 of Schedule 4A to the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 (c. 88) (exclusion from enfranchisement for certain shared ownership leases for the elderly) insert—
“Certain leases in protected areas
4A (1) A lease which does not fall within paragraph 3 is excluded from the operation of this Part of this Act if—
(a) the lease meets the conditions mentioned in sub-paragraph (2) of that paragraph; and
(b) the house is in a protected area.
(2) The appropriate national authority may by order made by statutory instrument designate an area as a protected area if it considers it appropriate to do so to support the provision in the area of houses, or descriptions of houses, which are available for occupation in accordance with shared ownership arrangements.
(3) The appropriate national authority must publish the criteria for the time being in force which are to be taken into account by it in deciding whether to designate an area as a protected area.
(4) Before making an order under sub-paragraph (2) the appropriate national authority must take such steps as it considers to be reasonable to consult those likely to be affected by the order.
(5) In any proceedings the court may, if it considers that it is just and equitable to do so, treat a lease as meeting the conditions mentioned in paragraph 3(2) despite the fact that the condition mentioned in paragraph 3(2)(g) is not met.
(6) An order under this paragraph may contain such incidental, supplementary, transitory, transitional or saving provisions as the appropriate national authority considers appropriate.
(7) In this paragraph—
“appropriate national authority” means—
(a) in relation to England, the Secretary of State; and
(b) in relation to Wales, the Welsh Ministers; and
“shared ownership arrangements” has the same meaning as in section 69 of the Housing and Regeneration Act 2008.
(8) An instrument containing—
(a) an order of the Secretary of State under this paragraph is subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament;
(b) an order of the Welsh Ministers under this paragraph is subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of the National Assembly for Wales.”’.—[Mr. Wright.]
Brought up, read the First and Second time, and added to the Bill.

New Clause 26

Exclusion of the right to buy: demolition notices
‘Schedule (Demolition notices) (which makes provision about demolition notices) has effect.’.—[Mr. Wright.]
Brought up, and read the First time.
Mr. Wright: I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
The Chairman: With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Government new schedule 1—Demolition notices.
Government amendments Nos. 124, 129 and 130.
Mr. Wright: New clause 26 and new schedule 1 will add a new schedule to the Housing Act 1985. They build on a measure introduced in the Housing Act 2004 to tackle exploitation of the right to buy and compulsory purchase compensation rules by some tenants. The 2004 Act added properties that are to be demolished during the next two years to the exceptions that apply to the right to buy under schedule 5 to the Housing Act 1985. In practical terms, the right to buy is no longer available on properties where the landlord has followed the approved and prescribed notification process by serving a final demolition notice. The 2004 Act also gave landlords the power to serve an initial demolition notice, which suspends the right to buy—again, landlords must follow a prescribed notification process.
Of course, there are safeguards for tenants. Landlords must notify tenants when and why they intend to demolish. An initial demolition notice expires after five years, and another cannot be served in respect of the same property for five years, unless the Secretary of State agrees. An initial demolition notice can be extended, but, again, only if the Secretary of State agrees. If a tenant has incurred conveyancing costs before a demolition notice is served, he is entitled to compensation. A final demolition notice cannot be served unless arrangements are in place to acquire any neighbouring properties that also need to be demolished.
These provisions are also available if the landlord employs another body—for example, an arm’s length management organisation—to manage the demolition scheme on their behalf while retaining ownership of the property, but they are not available if the landlord sells or transfers the property to another landlord. The new clause and new schedule will enable initial or final demolition notices to remain in effect, if a landlord sells or transfers a property to another landlord who intends to continue with the demolition plans. However, I should make it clear to the Committee that all the safeguards for tenants that I have mentioned will remain.
The power to issue initial and final demolition notices will be available if demolition is to be carried out by another landlord to whom the social landlord has transferred the property, but only if the second landlord also intends to demolish the property. That will work as follows: the second landlord will have to revoke any demolition notice served by the first landlord, unless the second landlord serves a continuation notice confirming that they intend to continue with the demolition plans. The continuation notice must be justified on one of the same grounds as the original demolition notice, and it must be served and publicised in the same way. It may not vary the planned demolition date or the date on which the original notice will expire. The intention is to enable social landlords to manage demolition and regeneration schemes as flexibly as possible.
Amendment No. 124 is purely technical. It adds a repeal to schedule 10—the removal of “and”—and amendment No. 130 ensures that the repeal is commenced automatically. Amendment No. 129 ensures that new clause 26 and new schedule 1 are commenced automatically two months after Royal Assent, which will allow social landlords to make use of the new provision on demolition notices without delay. I hope that I have explained the intention of the amendments clearly.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause read a Second time, and added to the Bill.
 
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