Select Committee on Business and Enterprise Written Evidence


Letter from Hugh Bayley MP

LOCAL AREA CONSULTATION FOR THE POST OFFICE NETWORK CHANGE PROGRAMME

  Thank you for inviting me to submit evidence to your inquiry about local area consultation for the PO Network Change Programme.

  Post Office Limited published its Area Plan Proposal for North Yorkshire with Yorkshire East and Keighley and started public consultation on 27 November 2007. The consultation period will end on 17 January 2008. I acknowledge that Nick Tumer and Matt Silcock, from PO External Relations, came to see me at the House of Commons on 5 December and, at my request, Adrian Wales and Matthew Silcock, from PO External Relations, attended a public meeting in York to answer questions from members of the public on 20 December 2007. Nevertheless, I believe the consultation arrangements are deeply flawed, and primarily designed to enable the PO to "jump the hurdles" and to close branches with little regard to public opinion. I set out my concerns below and make recommendations about how the department for Business and Regulatory Reform and the Post Office could improve the consultation arrangements in future.

1.   How many branches need to close?

  The Government regrets the need for branch closures, but argue that some closures are inevitable because four million fewer people are using the PO each week than two years ago. The change in the number of users will vary from place to place, depending on local economic activity, housing expansion, benefit claimant rates etc In its local area consultation documents the PO should state what the change in PO usage has been in that area since the previous round of closure(s) in absolute numbers and percentage terms, and what number of transactions and percentage of transactions for the area as a whole take place at the branches proposed for closure. Where two or more branches are proposed for closure it would be possible to publish this information without breaching commercial confidentiality about customer numbers at a specific branch. In the infrequent cases where only one branch is proposed for closure it might be reasonable to publish only percentage figures—to indicate that x % of transactions have been lost and y % of the local "transaction capacity" is proposed for closure. Such information would allow the public to assess whether the proposed closures are proportionate to the loss of business.

Recommendation 1

  Local Area Consultation documents should state what the change in PO usage has been in that area, and what change in PO "transaction capacity" is being proposed.

2.   Parliamentary Questions

  In November anticipating the closures consultation in York, I tabled a Parliamentary Question seeking information about the number of transactions over PO counters that had been in York in each of the last five years. The Minister replied "This is an operational matter for Post Office Ltd I have therefore asked Alan Cook, Managing Director of PO Ltd, to reply direct to the hon Member" (13 November 2007 col 133W)

  Mr Cook did not reply for a further three weeks, and when he wrote he did not answer the question. He said "I understand that a meeting has been arranged with you next week on Wednesday 5 December . . . at that meeting our managers will be able to discuss with you, on a confidential basis the level of customer usage in the branches affected by our proposal changes for your area". Mr Cook's letter is attached as Appendix A (not printed here).

  At the 5 December meeting the managers told me in confidence, the average number of customer transactions per week at the three branches within my constituency which are proposed for closure. They did not give any information about how the number of transactions at the branches or in York as a whole had changed over recent years, despite the implication in Mr Cook's letter that I would receive an answer to my question when I met his managers face to face.

  The managers agreed, when we met, that they would answer my question subsequently. I received an email from Mr Silcock on 31 December telling me, in confidence the current average weekly number of transactions at each of the 34 PO branches in York, but not the number of transactions across PO counters in York as a whole over the last five years, as requested, which could, of course, have been supplied without breaching the commercial confidentiality of the number of transactions at a single branch.

  I regard the way both the Department and PO Ltd responded to my question as wholly inadequate. My question was relevant and a full answer could have been provided without infringing commercial confidentiality. At a time when PO branch closures are being proposed in York, the information which I sought ought to be in the public domain. Finally it is quite unsatisfactory for a member to have to wait for a month and a half for a reply to a question especially when the question relates to a time limited consultation.

Recommendation 2

  The Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform should closely monitor the answers to Parliamentary Questions given on its behalf by PO Ltd, to ensure that they are adequate and timely.

3.   How well informed are Local Area Consultation Documents and Proposals?

  The PO Ltd Area Plan Proposal for North Yorkshire with Yorkshire East and Keighley lists 71 PO branches as being in York. In fact only 34 of these 71 branches are in York, which suggests a lack of local knowledge.

  At the public consultation meeting in York on 20 December, it became clear that the managers responsible for the closure proposals were unaware, for example, that:

    (1)  One of the branches proposed for closure (Micklegate Branch) was designated as the receiving branch for customers of two other branches (Albermarle Road and Bishopthorpe Road) which were closed two years ago.

    (2)  HSBC is closing its bank branch which is almost next to one of the PO branches proposed for closure (Clifton).

    (3)  The Council has approved a large housing development on Haxby Road, near one of the branches proposed for closure (Haxby Road Branch).

    (4)  Winter flooding, which is a recurrent problem in York, closes some of the pedestrian routes which the PO assumed customers could use to get to alternative branches.

  You cannot expect PO manages to have as detailed local knowledge as the local authority. This, in part, is why they need to consult. However, it would make sense for the PO to share proposed Local Area Consultation documents with the local authority before they are published, to reduce the potential for error.

Recommendation 3

  PO Ltd should submit draft Local Area Consultation documents and closure proposals to the local authorities in these areas before they are published to try to avoid omissions and/or factual inaccuracies.

4.   How widely does the Post Office consult?

  The PO is expected to consult widely on its proposals, but there is little evidence that it does.

  One of the branches proposed for closure in York has, according to PO Ltd, 818 customers a week. This branch was given 150 copies of a letter to explain the closure proposal to customers and explaining how customers can make their views known. When I visited the branch four days after the consultation began all 150 copies had been handed out to customers and I had to ask PO Ltd to print additional copies for each of the branches scheduled for closure in York.

Recommendation 4

  That the PO should provide each branch proposed for closure with sufficient copies of a letter to customers explaining their proposal and how the public can respond to it.

  My constituent Philip Crowe, has written a detailed statement for consideration by your Committee which I enclose as Appendix B (not printed here). He believes that PO Ltd and Postwatch have failed to consult widely over their York proposals and failed adequately to inform the public of its right to object. I would ask you to consider Mr Crowe's representations in detail. Mr Crowe includes a list of local organisations in York which the Council consults. It is not clear how many of these bodies have been consulted by The PO, but Mr Crowe is personally aware of only two. I believe the PO should take advice from local authorities about whom to consult and append to their consultation documents a list of the organisations consulted. The responses the receive should be open to public inspection.

Recommendation 5

  The PO should take advice from local authorities in each area about which organisations to consult about closure proposals and the responses that they receive should be placed in the public domain.

5.   Do PO closure proposals comply with minimum access criteria?

  The Government has set out minimum access criteria—for example 95% of the total urban population to be within one mile of their nearest PO Branch. The North Yorkshire consultation document does not set out how many people live in each of the urban and rural areas within the overall area, and what proportion of the population currently are within he specified minimum distance of a PO branch, and what proportion would live within the distance if the closures were to go ahead. If those figures are not calculated there is no way of knowing whether the Government's minimum access criteria are met, and if they are calculated they should be published.

Recommendation 6

  Each Local Area Plan should state clearly the proportion of the population in each urban and rural area covered by the plan, that live within the Government's minimum access criteria (a) currently and (b) if the proposed closures were to go ahead.

6.   Do PO closure proposals seek to retain the more popular and well used branches?

  According to the figures provided to me by the PO, on a commercial in confidence basis, the average number of customer sessions per week at each of the 33 York sub-PO branches ranges from 2358 to 13. One of the branches proposed for closure is the fourth most used branch in York with nearly 2,000 customers a week. Another is the 13th most used branch.

  I appreciate that the Select Committee will not consider the case for any individual branch but I believe it would lead to more meaningful consultation if the PO revealed the average number of customer sessions per branch in each area (urban and rural), and indicated if any branch proposed for closure carries out more than the average number of transactions. The PO should have to meet a higher burden of proof that a branch is not commercially viable if that branch is one of the more popular and well-used branches.

Recommendation 7

  PO consultation documents should reveal the average number of transactions per branch in each urban and rural area, and indicate any branch proposed for closure that carries out more than the average number of transactions. The PO should have to meet a higher burden of proof to close these branches.

7.   Should a de minimis threshold be added to the Government s minimum access criteria?

  I represent an urban constituency but I recognise the need to retain a PO branch network in rural areas even though the number of transactions per branch is much lower than in urban areas. However I note that one of the rural branches in the City of York has only 13 transactions a week, and another only 26. It seems to be a grossly inefficient use of public subsidy to retain and continue to pay the overheads for PO branches serving only three to five customers a day while closing branches three or four miles away which serve 400 customers a day. I believe that a de minimis rule should apply to PO branches with very low usage, in order to protect significantly better used urban and rural branches.

Recommendation 8

  The Government should set aside the minimum access criteria in rural areas for PO branches which serve a very low number of customers (say fewer than five a day), on the basis that there is little demand from the public for PO services in these places. The money saved by the PO should be used to keep open other better used branches in urban and rural areas.

8.   Does Postwatch have sufficient powers to prevent a closure when the PO fails to make a convincing case for it?

  Six PO branches were closed in York three years ago. The consultation about the closures revealed particularly convincing reasons for retaining one of the three branches which was in an important secondary shopping centre in Bishopthorpe Road. Postwatch called on the PO not to close this branch, but the PO ignored their representations. Bishopthorpe Road was a particularly well used branch more than the average number of customers. I recognise that a public watchdog body cannot compel a commercial organisation like the PO to retain branches that are not commercially viable, but I believe it should be able to block the closure of a commercially viable branch.

Recommendation 9

  The Government, PO Ltd and Postwatch should agree criteria for commercial viability and Postwatch should be given the power to block the closure of commercially viable PG branches when they believe there is a particularly strong case for keeping such a branch open.

11 January 2008





 
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