Select Committee on Culture, Media and Sport Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 60 - 64)

TUESDAY 23 OCTOBER 2007

MR COLIN DAWSON, MR ROBIN BROKE, MR GREGOR HUTCHEON AND DR SIMON THURLEY

  Q60  Helen Southworth: Have you made any assessment of the changing culture patterns with younger people? I have been absolutely astonished to see how many young people have taken on camping. It is a huge change, in that young people who wanted to go into the city and did not wear coats in the evening are now wanting to spend their holidays under canvas.

  Mr Hutcheon: Anecdotally we are getting evidence that people are wanting to holiday at home because they are getting the environmental message. I was having a debate with Robin before we came in about whether there was evidence yet that would convince you guys that this was the real case.

  Q61  Helen Southworth: Is this something that DCMS should be taking up; that as a government department it should be looking at its climate change obligations? Do you have an opinion?

  Mr Broke: No, I do not think government needs to do more than is happening anyway. People need to be informed and allowed to make their own decisions. As I say, there are already signs that people will do the right thing, given half a chance—whatever the right thing is. If we think that part of that right thinking will be that they will wish to stay here, then once we have fixed the weather we can really go to town on ensuring—

  Helen Southworth: Surely you are not going to tell me the whole problem is the weather, so you cannot do anything. I do not believe that.

  Mr Sanders: An extra hour of sunlight:

  Q62  Helen Southworth: What about that?

  Mr Hutcheon: I am not sure about whose role that is. This comes back to some of the issues we were talking about before. On the one hand, we need some data, to know how significant is the business case for this growing, environmentally aware tourist market and how can we grow it. That is about information and evidence and data. There is a leadership role, though, for government on addressing the specific issue on climate change and for which DCMS should take responsibility, and that would be in partnership with VisitBritain and other government departments, in helping work out what that should be. In some cases, we may have to face some difficult decisions. What do we really think about low-cost flights and expanding aviation? What do we think about the degree of investment in international marketing and marketing Britain abroad against the domestic market? What do we think about potentially damaging developments that may be visitor attractions in themselves but undermine the quality of the local landscape? Those are very difficult issues which, if we were serious about confronting the bigger challenge, then we as a sector together need to address those.

  Q63  Alan Keen: This is not going to help this inquiry at all, but I thought I would share a social observation with you. We all know about the postcards going out saying, "Weather beautiful scenery wonderful, rows not quite as good as last year." Helen painted this wonderful picture of serenity, sitting around the computer and booking a holiday. Now it could be because I am married to an MP, but we get our rows out of the way even before we get on holiday! As a serious point, with some of the websites it is difficult to book directly with a hotel because of the way that some of the companies manipulate. Are you aware of this at all? It is very frustrating.

  Mr Broke: You are taking evidence from BHA.

  Chairman: That is probably a question for them.

  Q64  Mr Sanders: Cultural Olympiad. What do you know about it and where did you hear it?

  Mr Broke: Certainly I have been to a meeting with English Heritage, taking the lead with Heritage Link. Currently, of course, there is no money and so I think we have to accept, therefore, that there will be a need to link events that are probably going to happen anyway and package them in some sort of helpful manner—rather like Sea Britain 2005—and I think that will be thoroughly satisfactory. I think I am right in saying that we are the first nation to be doing a Cultural Olympiad: we are setting the standard and therefore we cannot help but be the best.

  Dr Thurley: English Heritage are taking the lead in convening a series of meetings, mainly with the intention of trying to get the cultural end of visitor attractions together for the Cultural Olympiad. I believe there is work going on on what is known as "a big idea" which will be launched at the Heritage Link AGM in December. There is quite a lot of work going on and we are taking our coordinating role quite seriously.

  Chairman: I think we are done. Thank you all very much.





 
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