Select Committee on Culture, Media and Sport Written Evidence


Memorandum submitted by Advanced Ticket Systems Ltd

TICKET TOUTING

  I am the chief executive of Advanced Ticket Systems Limited, a limited liability company registered in England and Wales in existence since 2003 (Company number 4906819).

  I am an American expatriate who moved to the United Kingdom three years ago. As a huge sport enthusiast, I wanted to attend an English Premier League football match and was surprised to find the only alternatives available for me to buy tickets were through street ticket touts. I had no idea what a "fair" market price for these tickets was and I had no way of knowing if tickets were counterfeit. Worse yet, if anything did go wrong, I would have no recourse. When I found out that the practice of selling football tickets was a criminal offence, I decided that attending a match was simply not going to happen. I thought there must be a better way to serve consumers, which is when I began researching the secondary ticket market (as to which see below at 3).

  I am mandated by my company to provide evidence relating to Ticket Touting as follows:

1.   What we do

  1.1  We operate an open marketplace dedicated to tickets under the brand names of "MyTicketMarket" and "Get Me In!".

  1.2  Buyers and sellers are able to avail themselves of our internet-based services to "meet on our marketplace" to trade their tickets in a safe and trusted environment.

  1.3  We have successfully facilitated over 30,000 ticket purchases since we launched our service offering, providing access to tickets for live events to many thousands of happy customers. We are based in London and employ a permanent staff of 27.

  1.4  Like most successful marketplaces, prices for tickets bought or sold through our platform are set by the normal market forces of supply and demand: they are usually above face value, sometimes at face value, but often below face value as well.

2.   How do we protect buyers of tickets

  2.1  Though the transactions generated on our website based platform technically take place between third party buyers and sellers, Advanced Ticket Systems does guarantee that each buyer will actually receive the tickets they purchased or they will be entitled to a refund and compensation equalling 150% of the money they spent.

  2.2  Further, our business processes, whereby we carefully vet each and every seller and withhold payment from sellers until buyers have received tickets, allow us to confidently provide this guarantee on all purchases we facilitate.

3.   The secondary ticket market

  3.1  The secondary market for tickets—like the secondary market for any other goods and/or services in any free economic society—exists because supply and demand demands that it exist. [1]Consumers that want to attend an event hard enough will always seek out alternative purchase options that may be available to them, even if those options exist within and lead to an establishment of a "grey" or "black" market. Similarly, ticket holders will also consciously seek out the options available to them to sell surplus tickets, just as they would with any other goods that they owned.

  3.2  Historically, however, the options available to buyers—and sellers—in the secondary ticket market have been inadequate and the prevailing circumstances seem to put the interests of performing artists and sports rights holders well ahead of fan and consumer interests.

  3.3  Attempts to regulate and even eliminate the secondary ticket market (most especially as a result of Section 166 of the CJPOA in relation to football) have come at a price by eliminating price transparency for consumers, and have forced out many of the law-abiding consumer-focused companies from participating in the secondary ticket market. This has sent much of the secondary market underground and resulted in a high frequency of fraud, a poor consumer experience, less access to tickets and even higher ticket prices. [2]

  3.4  We believe that the Internet provides a perfect opportunity to correct the inefficiencies of the secondary ticket market—just as it has for so many other markets—and to greatly ameliorate the consumer experience and reduce fraud while increasing access for consumers. That is why our business exists and why we expect to grow very quickly to keep pace with demand for our services.

4.   Should resale be permitted?

  4.1  Aside from the obvious economic fact that a right to resell a ticket, by definition, enhances the overall utility of both sides of the transaction (otherwise the transaction would simply not occur), we believe it is a fundamental consumer right to have the ability to buy and sell tickets in an open marketplace. In fact, restrictions on ticket resale have been proven historically to hurt consumers, and have been gradually and continually removed from statute books in many jurisdictions, not least the US.

  4.2  In the past few years, the legislatures in New York, Minnesota, Florida, Missouri, and Illinois, have passed bills to eliminate or ease prevailing restrictions on the secondary ticket market, with Massachusetts and Connecticut set to follow suit soon. During that time, not a single United States jurisdiction has passed or approved any law which extends or implements resale restrictions. Importantly, resale restrictions were all lifted in the face of overwhelming resistance from leading sports bodies, music artists and theatre promoters.

  4.3  You may ask why resale restrictions are crumbling in the United States, despite the objections of the powerful primary industry lobby? These laws appear to be being revoked not only because they are antiquated and encourage the existence of a black market for tickets, but also because they infringe significantly on a consumer's right to deal in their private property. Furthermore, the laws were found to result in higher prices for consumers. In fact, the only parties that benefit from ticket resale regulations are the original ticket issuers themselves, who may leverage such legislation to extend their monopoly primary market position into a monopoly secondary market position.

  4.4  As an example, just last week the assembly of New York state passed a new law which not only protects the consumer's right to resell tickets but also explicitly bars promoters and producers from infringing on this right. [3]


5.   Competition

  5.1  What is clear throughout economic history is that competitive free markets ultimately benefit consumers. As is illustrated by our own experience working with thousands of customers, consumers like and value the choice that the secondary ticket market affords them and they also value the option to be able to sell-on tickets if they choose to. We regularly run customer feedback surveys and find that over 90% of our customers are either extremely satisfied or very satisfied with our services.

  5.2  As more and more legitimate players like ourselves enter the secondary ticket market, consumers will be presented with even more options. Eventually, consumers will gravitate to the best service providers. To be sure, price will always be a significant factor in vendor selection, but consumers will also demand a high level of customer service, a wide range of inventory selection and a sensible way to address consumer complaints when they do occur. Without competition, consumers would be denied these benefits.

  5.3  We have sought outline legal advice in relation to the restrictions on transferability often imposed on buyers of tickets and our conclusions suggest that current restrictions likely infringe competition laws; being restrictions that affect trade within the UK (and EU) and have as their object or effect the prevention, restriction or distortion of competition. [4]I understand that they would only be lawful if they satisfied the criteria for exemption set out in s9 Competition Act [Article 81(3)]. On the facts, that seems unlikely.

  5.4  Further, you will, of course, be aware that regulation must be framed to ensure compatibility with competition laws (it is an EC Treaty obligation on Member States) and that the Office of Fair Trading is currently investigating the effects of anti-competitive regulation.

6.   Should regulation be extended?

  6.1  Aside from the anti-competition and consumer protection issues which cry out for an open secondary ticket market policy, further regulation of ticket resale makes no sense from a practical perspective. To understand this, consider the case of football, where there already exists extremely stringent criminal regulation preventing the resale of tickets for designated football matches.

  This criminal legislation, referred to in 3.3 above, prohibiting unofficial resale of football tickets, did not stop thousands of fans from buying tickets for the Champions League Final between Liverpool and AC Milan, presumably from less than reputable sources. It also did not stop thousands more fans from flying to Athens in the hopes of obtaining tickets from someone on the street. In fact, the very existence of the law, which prohibited a competitive, market-driven resale system in the United Kingdom, drove many supporters to try all means available to obtain tickets and ultimately led to a public safety issue at the match itself where discontented supporters showed up without tickets. What the law did accomplish was to keep legitimate secondary ticket market players like ourselves out of the transactions, which creates zero opportunity for consumer redress and much less control over potential football flashpoints. The very existence of the law, no doubt aimed to protect consumers, ultimately puts them at a disadvantage and in extreme cases compromises their safety.

  6.3  If the ultimate issue that needs to be addressed is general consumer access to events, than government should define that priority and seek ways to provide access to consumers, which begin with allocation and pricing in the primary market. The New York bill explicitly points out the folly of attempting to regulate the pricing of tickets by focusing on the secondary market. [5]As Elliott Spitzer, the Governor of the state of New York said best in a recent interview regarding the secondary ticket market: "It's the only product I know where we are regulating the secondary market but we don't set a price for the primary market. It makes no sense." [6]



7.   Executive Summary

  In order to focus on the particular issues raised in the evidence request:

  7.1  The underlying causes of ticket touting, and its impact on performers, promoters and the public.

  7.1.1  There is no doubt that a major underlying cause of ticket touting is the existence of a legitimate healthy demand for tickets often at prices above face value. In addition, the very nature of live events, where tickets are sold many months in advance and the value of attending will necessarily fluctuate in price as the event nears, fuels a need for a secondary ticket market. Finally, the inadequacy of primary distribution channels and the existence of thousands of consumers who will pay more for convenience and superior customer service necessitate a secondary ticket market.

  7.1.2  We believe the effect on performers and promoters is minimal as they act in concert and are the initial controllers of price and distribution and thus they are free to charge what they like, allocate tickets how they choose, and distribute tickets accordingly. Performers and promoters enjoy a monopoly position in the primary market; to a small extent ticket touting opens up these promoters, performers and primary ticketing companies to competition.

  7.1.3  The effect on the public of an open secondary ticket market are increased access to tickets, increased utility through transferability of tickets, and increased levels of customer service through legitimate competition. Harmful consumer practices such as fraud and the public nuisance of street touts exists because the secondary ticket market is inefficient and legitimate players are discouraged from participating.

  7.2  Whether or not resale of a ticket, at face value or at a higher value, should be permitted in principle; and whether the acceptability or otherwise of resale depends on the circumstances in which tickets are offered for resale.

  7.2.1  We firmly believe resale should be allowed within demand-driven self-regulated circumstances or environments we and others like us offer.

  7.3  The impact of the Internet upon trade in tickets.

  7.3.1  The Internet has made trade in tickets more visible, efficient and competitive, just as it has for trade in many other chattels or goods. Further, the Internet has also afforded improved secondary ticket market business models, such as our own, for consumers. The internet provides an alternative that alleviates the public nuisance of street ticket touting and provides a safe environment to trade with recourse for fraud.

  7.4  Whether or not tickets' terms and conditions banning transfer and onward sale are fair or enforceable.

  7.4.1  For both antitrust and practical reasons the reduction of consumer choice should not be enforceable and is not fair in accordance with the guiding principles of the European Union.

  7.5  The merits of new approaches by ticket agents attempting to prevent transfer of tickets, including wider use of personal ID.

  7.5.1  The wider use of ID to prevent transfer has little merit except to delay entrance to venues, complicate the primary purchase of tickets (which will discourage the consumer from doing it) and unfairly limit a consumer's rights.

  7.6  Whether or not the existing offences of sale by an unauthorised person in a public place of a ticket for a designated football match, or for events at the London 2012 Games, should be extended to cover other sporting or cultural events.

  7.6.1  We have no issue with the attempts to stop ticket resale at the gates of the venue, however further restricting safe and trusted resale serves no legitimate public need and harms consumers.

  7.6.2  Existing legislation related to football exists solely for public order reasons associated with fan segregation and would be completely illogical to extend to cover other sporting or cultural events.

  7.6.3  Extending regulation would serve no practical purpose other than to force legitimate players out of the market, require a large amount of enforcement resources, and exacerbate consumer protection problems.

June 2007





1   Atkinson, James; The University of Notre Dame, Economics of Ticket Scalping: "While some may claim that ticket scalping is unethical and immoral, even illegal in certain states and municipalities, it is simply a free-market transaction. Most economists avidly oppose laws that make ticket scalping illegal." Back

2   Elfenbeim, Dan; University of California, Berkeley; Do Anti-Ticket Scalping Laws Make A Difference?: "Stricter regulations were associated with fewer online transactions, a greater frequency of transactions that crossed state borders, and higher prices and markups." Back

3   New York State Assembly, Bill 7526-A: "This legislation would prohibit the venues from revoking season tickets [...] when such revocation is based solely on the basis of resale." Back

4   s2 Competition Act 1998 and/or Article 81(1) EC Treaty. Back

5   Summary of New York Bill 7562-A: "Controlling the price of tickets on the secondary market has been cited as a method of consumer protection. However, the primary sale price of tickets has increased to a point that many tickets are already unaffordable for consumers. Therefore, controlling the prices on the secondary market is not an effective consumer protection." Back

6   NME.com, 20 March 2007. Back


 
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