Select Committee on Culture, Media and Sport Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum submitted by Ticketmaster UK

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

  Ticketmaster is the largest primary agent in the UK ticketing market. As such, we are well placed to analyse and comment on the growing problem of ticket touting.

  Touting has a damaging effect on the events and industries for which we sell tickets, as well as on consumers, fans and the economy as a whole. The growth of the Internet, and in particular auction sites, has led to an explosion in the unauthorised sale of tickets for events.

  Ticketmaster UK has in place a number of mechanisms to prevent the touting of our tickets, and we are utilising newly-available technologies to ensure that as many protections as possible are in place for the tickets that we sell. However, while ticket touting remains permitted by law, we are unable to do more than scratch the surface of the problem. For example, 7,000 tickets for the 15 recent Prince concerts in London were on sale on the Internet shortly after the shows selling out.

  The scale of touting, and the problems which it creates, has reached the stage where government action is required to tackle the issue. The principle is already in place in UK law for football matches and the 2012 Olympics, and we strongly argue for similar legislation outlawing the unauthorised resale of tickets for all events.

INTRODUCTION TO TICKETMASTER UK

  1.  Ticketmaster UK, the British arm of the global Ticketmaster company, has been established for 25 years, and employs over 700 personnel in four sites across the UK. We provide ticket sales and distribution through channels such as www.ticketmaster.co.uk. Ticketmaster also provides box office, access control and technology products and services to a broad range of venues across the UK including theatres, leading arenas, stadiums and festivals, aimed at maximising consumer experience.

  2.  The Ticketmaster Group is the exclusive supplier of ticketing services for the 2008 Beijing Olympics, Rugby World Cup 2007 and Euro 2008, and also previously ticketed the Athens 2004 Olympic Games and Paralympic Games. Ticketmaster UK sells for over 60,000 events a year across all areas of the UK entertainment sector, including theatre and arts, music and sporting events.

  3.  Our primary objective is to offer our clients ticketing services and marketing support to enable them to sell as many tickets as possible for their events, with fair and equitable distribution. Our ticketing services are tailored to respond to each of our client's specific business requirements and we believe that this is reflected in our response to the unauthorised secondary ticketing market.

  4.  We believe that our clients, who have invested in the event, should be able to control where and how their tickets are sold, and at what price, not the unauthorised secondary market. Ticket touting is bad for our business, but it is also bad for consumers, fans, tourists, and UK plc as a whole. We fully accept our responsibility to self-regulate our business and to achieve fair distribution of tickets on behalf of our clients to the benefit of their consumers. However we firmly believe that the scale of the emerging unauthorised secondary market requires urgent legislation to support the entertainment sector if we are to be successful in responding to this issue.

  5.  As such, we are working closely with the Department of Culture, Media and Sport and our clients across the entertainment sector to push for greater restrictions on touting, and we very much welcome the Committee's interest in this area. We also actively participated in and welcomed the OFT's 2004 market inquiry into ticket agents. We are also responding to this inquiry through our membership of the Society of Ticket Agents and Retailers, and as part of the industry-wide coalition on touting. However, as the largest primary ticket agency operating in the UK market, we believe that our own detailed submission to this inquiry would be helpful to the Committee. Ticketmaster would also very much welcome the chance to follow up this submission at an oral evidence session.

INTRODUCTION TO THE TICKETING INDUSTRY

  6.  The ticketing industry in the UK provides a service to both event promoters and consumers, by providing an effective and efficient means of distributing tickets. Event promoters may benefit from the specialist service a ticketing agent can offer them, including increased tickets sales, technology and incremental marketing support. Consumers benefit from easier and more convenient access to tickets due to the enhanced infrastructure ticket agents can offer, which is not always financially viable for promoters and venues to provide.

  7.  There are two broad categories of ticket agent, those that operate in the primary market, and those that operate in the secondary market. Primary agents, such as Ticketmaster have agreements with event promoters and venues to sell tickets for entertainment and other events. Most primary ticket agents are members of STAR (Society of Ticket Agents and Retailers), a self-regulatory body whose members agreed to comply with a code of practice. Ticketmaster was a founding member of STAR.

  8.  Secondary agents obtain tickets from a range of sources for resale to the public. Prices are not regulated by the event promoter and ticket prices can be substantially higher than the face value of the ticket. A secondary agent re-selling a ticket without the authorisation of the event owner or primary agent breaks the terms and conditions of the ticket and as such is engaging in ticket touting.

  9.  The current STAR terms and conditions authorise resale of tickets at face value (for example to a friend or colleague if a person can no longer attend an event). Ticketmaster, and the industry, do not view this as touting as this not-for-profit resale is authorised by the terms and conditions. We view this as a common sense approach, and would caution against the imposition of any regulations, which cover "friend-to-friend" face value resale of tickets.

TICKET TOUTING: WRONG IN PRINCIPLE

  10.  The unauthorised resale of tickets for profit does not promote fair and equitable distribution of tickets, and drains tickets away from the primary market, thus restricting the opportunity for genuine fans to purchase them legitimately.

  11.  Event promoters and stakeholders make enormous investments in producing their event, and the unauthorised market benefits from that and the popularity of the event, despite having made no investment themselves. The opportunity cost of touting is also great, as the touts are receiving income that could otherwise have gone to the entertainment or sports industries. The damage this does to event owners' reputations with consumers and fans, as well as the tourism industry and the economy as a whole, has been well documented in the broader submissions, which the Committee will be receiving.

  12.  The rapid growth of the Internet has affected the market in two ways. It has expedited the purchase of tickets, and the efficient service Ticketmaster offers means that whole arenas can sell out in a matter of minutes. This is of great advantage to the consumer who benefits from such efficient, fast and effective systems. It also allows greater equality of access to tickets for those in society who may not have the physical capacity or lifestyle to access tickets through traditional methods, such as queuing for a long time on a working day.

  13.  However, this equality of access does also allow for organised and sustained abuse of the system, and the Internet has greatly exacerbated the rise of ticket touting. This occurs both through individuals (selling on auction sites such as eBay) and unauthorised secondary agents such as tickettout.com and getmetickets.com. The dangers of purchasing tickets from sites such as these was clearly shown by the demise of both companies, which left thousands of their customers with no tickets and substantially out of pocket.

  14.  Increasingly individuals either buy more tickets than they need as they know they can re-sell the extras for profit on internet sites, or purchase them with no intent of attending the event in the first place. In some cases, this involves highly organised touting operations, which utilise sophisticated computer technology or "call centres" to bombard ticketing websites and phone lines to buy up a large proportion of tickets as soon as they are on sale. We constantly review our technology and upgrade our website to deter these activities. For example, every customer is now required to enter a unique verification code as part of the purchase process, which is designed to prevent multiple automated bookings.

  15.  Some of the secondary agents who are positioning themselves to the public and indeed to the DCMS as consumer orientated and legitimate resellers are now also dealing in "futures" for many events (ie selling tickets or allowing them to be sold through their site, when in fact they or their seller do not have the tickets). We consider that this is another example of the consumer being potentially placed at financial risk through these unauthorised sites.

  16.  eBay publicly argues that they and other unauthorised ticket resale sites offer consumers an effective means to resell their tickets, if they can no longer attend an event due to a change in their personal circumstances. We believe that, as the majority of tickets are offered for sale within 24 hours of the ticket purchase, most tickets are sold are for personal gain, with profits unfairly going to the individual instead of the event stakeholders who have made substantial financial investment.

THE SCALE OF THE PROBLEM

  17.  Our customers are becoming increasingly frustrated that they are unable to buy tickets through Ticketmaster as they are sold out and then find within minutes that they are being offered for resale on unauthorised resale sites. The scale of the problem is growing fast, and is demonstrated by, but not limited to, these examples:

  18.  Ticketmaster helped one of its clients sell out for 15 shows for Prince at The O2, London on Friday 11 May. From the 14-17 May, we analysed just four of the main unauthorised secondary ticket sites to establish the level of tickets offered for resale. We identified that over 7,000 tickets with a total face value of £223,000 were offered for resale above face value for a total posting value of £983,000.

  19.  Within hours of the highly anticipated National Football League (NFL) game between the Miami Dolphins and the New York Giants at Wembley Stadium, over 50 postings selling tickets were found on eBay alone.

  20.  A search for tickets for gigs and concerts and festivals available for sale on eBay in the United Kingdom on a single day (30 May) found over 13,000 postings listed. With an average of at least two tickets being available for sale on each posting, this equates to a conservative estimate of 26,000 tickets available for sale on just one unauthorised auction site.

  21.  These figures clearly display the potential size of the unauthorised market, and the potentially significant level of revenue being unfairly directed away from the music industry and its future development. The below correspondence—a brief sample of emails and letters we have received on this issue—offers qualitative evidence of how the unauthorised market affects our customers:

  "I would like to make a formal complaint about the distribution of the Pearl Jam tickets for the Wembley Arena gig (18 June 2007). The morning that the tickets were put on sale they sold out within 30 minutes, although I understand that this is not your fault I was very annoyed to find that the majority of the tickets had actually gone to touts. I am sure that you have some responsibility in ensuring that the tickets do not get sold to touts [...]. I decided to buy two tickets from Tickettout.com as there seemed to be no other way I would be able to get hold of any tickets.

  I have today received notification of the above company going into administration, which means that not only will I not receive the tickets I ordered but also I will not get any form of refund. Having booked these tickets so far in advance I have also arranged accommodation and transport, which have also been paid for to the amount of £100. Unfortunately the accommodation and transport cannot be cancelled [...].

  I would have much rather bought my tickets from your company, however this choice was taken away as the majority of the tickets were sold to touts [...]. I also wish to know what kind of action you will be taking against these companies to ensure this doesn't happen again."

  "I successfully managed to purchase tickets through Ticketmaster for The Police (in Manchester) when they went on sale on Friday 9 February. The event was sold out within 30 minutes. Imagine my disgust when I went on the eBay website later that morning—it was full of people selling their tickets at hugely inflated prices. There are many genuine fans out there that can now only see the concert by feeding these unscrupulous sellers. It was exactly the same situation after the Take That tickets sold out [...].

   Now I realise that you are not the only firm selling tickets but eBay have basically informed me that as an individual they will ignore my plea to stop allowing the sale of tickets on their site[...]. May I ask you to at least look into this legalised touting and prevent further abuse of your company. After all—these people are offering to sell items that they don't (yet) possess."

  22.  Currently we have no powers to protect consumers from our tickets being re-sold as unauthorised auction sites are not legally bound to display seat and booking details. The above examples represent a small fraction of the daily instances and contacts we receive from our customers, who are understandably concerned about the level of tickets being resold through the unauthorised secondary market.

NEW APPROACHES TO TACKLING TOUTING

  23.  Ticketmaster is developing a number of responses to prevent the unauthorised resale of tickets, which are designed to offer our clients choice, depending on their specific requirements.

  24.  Firstly, all tickets sold by Ticketmaster UK are sold subject to our Purchase Policy, which represents that tickets are for personal use only, and that tickets should not be purchased as part of any form of business or commercial activity, and in particular may not be offered for resale or resold unless it is expressly authorised by the Event Partner.

  25.  For some events Ticketmaster has worked pro-actively with our clients to cancel tickets offered on unauthorised resale sites where the booking can be traced through the information supplied at the time of resale. Ticketmaster does not independently make the decision to cancel tickets, although we frequently encourage our clients to do so. At the direction of our clients, if resale violates our client's terms of use, we will assist them in cancellations to uphold their terms of use.

  26.  We also have procedures in place to endeavour to prevent multiple applications for tickets, and our team is able to identify any suspect applications and cancel the tickets where appropriate. We also work with our clients to set ticket limits for their events, so it is not possible for individuals to bulk buy tickets, and whenever possible we restrict purchases for events to one credit card per address. We distribute tickets as close to the event as possible to prevent the opportunity for fraudulent tickets to enter the market.

  27.  In response to the burgeoning activities of the unauthorised secondary market, Ticketmaster is committed to developing a range of innovative products for our clients that will help them combat ticket touting. For example, Ticketmaster has been recommending the implementation of a TicketExchange mechanism to our key venue and event organiser clients, as we do appreciate that there is a need for a safe and secure mechanism for genuine fans to exchange tickets, when they legitimately cannot attend an event.

  28.  TicketExchange offers our clients and customers a legitimate alternative to the unauthorised secondary ticketing market. Using TicketExchange at Ticketmaster.co.uk, buyers simply select the ticket(s) they want based on price and seat location. The sale is completed through the trusted Ticketmaster system with no risk to the buyer. Only tickets originally purchased through the Ticketmaster system are eligible for resale and those tickets may only be resold at face value.

  29.  The key difference between TicketExchange and other re-sale sites is that TicketExchange is the only event-authorised resale site. This means that all tickets resold on TicketExchange are processed through Ticketmaster's authentic booking process, with the full consent and knowledge of either the venue or the event organiser.

  30.  TicketExchange works hand in hand with our access control systems, AccessManager and eEntry. These systems scan bar-coded tickets in real time and authenticate event admission. The system denies access to fraudulent tickets and those tickets where it has been possible to invalidate them if they have been resold against the terms and conditions of sale.

  31.  Our TicketExchange mechanism offers our clients the opportunity to allow their customers to resell their tickets at face value or at above face-value. To date, our clients that have adopted TicketExchange in the UK have opted for the "face value" model. However, if the activities of the unauthorised market continue un-checked, it can only be a matter of time before our clients want to capture the value of the secondary market and channel it back to their industry.

AUTHORISED TICKET AUCTIONS

  Ticketmaster also auctions tickets for certain high profile, high-demand events. There are a number of fundamental differences between our auctions and the activities of the unauthorised secondary market. Firstly, Ticketmaster cannot initiate its own auctions and any such activity is undertaken upon instruction from the event organiser. Ticketmaster creates an opportunity where fans have the ability to get tickets to the shows they want in a safe, open and transparent environment in the primary market.

  Ticketmaster Auctions represent a guaranteed transaction for the consumer. The consumer buys their ticket from Ticketmaster, the reliable source, and has the security of knowing the ticket will arrive, the exact location of the seat, and be genuine. The fundamental differences to auctions held on sites such as eBay are that Ticketmaster Auctions are authorised by the event holder, are legitimate and the consumer is protected. Auctions can be scheduled by the client to coincide with the greatest demand, such as when the event goes on general sale. We believe this works to undermine the activities of the unauthorised secondary market by providing a legitimate alternative in the primary market.

  Another key differential from the unauthorised market is that the money goes back to the promoters, who have invested their time and money in staging the event, which ultimately is a much fairer proposition for all parties involved.

  A small percentage of tickets are sold in this way, and our clients determine the pricing of any tickets that are offered for sale. Additionally there is often a value-added element, such as guaranteed front row seats, or proceeds to go to the promoter's or band's charity of choice. Ticketmaster is also working with our own nominated charity, Nordoff-Robbins Music Therapy, to hold auctions on their behalf with proceeds going back to them.

  32.  The unauthorised secondary market is burgeoning, but not in a way that offers protection to the consumer or fair recourse to the event stakeholders. Our services are intended to offer a legitimate alternative to the unregulated world of online ticket resale. TicketExchange guarantees the seller is paid and the buyer gets valid tickets. Our Auctions ensure, unlike some other unauthorised auction sites, that the buyers are not purchasing a worthless ticket that may not exist or be valid when they arrive at the event.

THE NEED FOR LEGISLATION

  33.  As set out above, Ticketmaster is working hard with our clients to provide legitimate and safe alternatives for our customers. However, given the scale of the problem there is only so much that we and our clients can do to tackle touting without appropriate government intervention.

  34.  We see this taking the form of legislation, extending the current regulations already in place for the UK football market (which appears to work effectively as a deterrent) and the 2012 Olympics. We see no reason why DCMS' decision to enforce the IOC contract for the London Games, by making ticket touting illegal on the face of the London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games Act 2006, cannot be extended to all events for which tickets are sold. Indeed, the drafting of Section 31 of the Act, which prohibits touting, would be an excellent template for future legislation in the wider ticketing area.

  35.  We believe that legislation must prohibit the unauthorised resale of tickets for all events, not just for "crown jewel" events, and provide the framework and opportunity to legally enforce our terms and conditions for sale. With appropriate legislation, the consumer will be offered enhanced protection and greater legitimate choice.

  36.  We would therefore urge the Committee to recommend strongly that the Government act to make the unauthorised resale of all event tickets, at higher than face value, a criminal offence through primary legislation.

June 2007





 
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