Select Committee on Culture, Media and Sport Written Evidence


Supplementary Memorandum submitted by Westminster City Council

  I refer to the evidence given by Robert Ayton of Westminster City Council on 1 July 2008 and that given by Dr Thurley of English Heritage on 2 July 2008. The City Council would like to make the following comments with respect to Heritage Partnership Agreements (HPAs) and Dr Thurley's evidence.

  Dr Thurley stated:

    "The important thing about Heritage Partnership Agreements is that they are only really useful where you are dealing with large estates where you have a single owner with multiple buildings. Westminster, I think I am right in saying, has the highest number of listed buildings of any borough in England and so I can understand that there might be some concern there but it does not have lots of estates of the sort of nature that we are thinking of".

    "I must say I do think that it is unlikely and I think that as the word gets around and as we go on the road and explain to local authorities the significant benefits there can be from this, more and more local authorities will encourage the big estate owners who make multiple, repetitious, slightly pointless sometimes, listed building consent applications to get on and make an agreement".

  DCMS states at paragraph 41 of the Impact Assessment:

    It is hoped that take-up of these new management arrangements will be high among owners of sites that require repetitive consent applications each year. As an indication, English Heritage note that there are currently around 250 listed building sites in England that have made six or more consent applications in the last three years. There are, in addition, an unknown number of applications made by owners of multiple sites which would be helped.

  In his evidence Dr Thurley suggests that he is thinking of country estates but the City Council is concerned that there are many urban estates in Central London comprising large numbers of historic buildings, such as the Grosvenor, Howard de Walden, Eyre, Pollen and Portman, who may wish to pursue an HPA. These estates could fall within the definition given by Dr Thurley; that is they are single owners with multiple buildings. If urban estates are not considered suitable for HPAs then this would need to be spelt out clearly.

  The comment by DCMS suggests that owners with dispersed property holdings could also benefit from HPAs. This could include major landowners and developers, such as Great Portland Estates and Land Securities, who own significant numbers of diverse properties across Westminster. Again, if these types of owners are not considered suitable for HPAs then this should be made explicit.

  The City Council draws the conclusion that, unless there are clear definitions of who is suitable for an HPA, there could be considerable demand for Heritage Partnership Agreements from a significant number of property owners, and that this would involve considerable local planning authority resources, especially at the initial stages, but also later on. The draft Heritage Partnership Agreement for Piccadilly Circus Underground Station proposed a system of dealing with submissions pursuant to the pilot HPA which could have meant significant on-going work, for the City Council had it been implemented.

  The City Council does not receive many of what Dr Thurley refers to as "repetitious, slightly pointless sometimes, listed building consent applications". The City Council receives around 2,000 applications for listed building consent each year but does not receive more than a handful of unnecessary applications.

  In the case of Piccadilly Circus underground station, in the last 24 years the City Council has received a total of less than 50 listed building consent applications, an average of less than two per year. Some of these may have been for relatively minor proposals, but the applications were not pointless. Even under the draft HPA, listed building consent would still have been required for these works. Dealing with this small number of applications has not been an onerous burden.

  DCMS suggest that HPAs might be appropriate for sites submitting 6 or more applications in a three year period. Again, it is questionable whether a rate of two applications per year would justify the work required in setting up an HPA.

CONCLUSION

  The City Council recognises that HPAs may offer some benefits, especially to land owners, and is not opposed to their use in special cases. But the City Council is yet to be convinced about the extent of their benefits compared with the extensive work required initially. It vital that local planning authorities can resist participating in them if they consider them unnecessary or too onerous.

July 2008





 
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