Select Committee on Foreign Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Further memorandum from Rt. Hon Lord Malloch-Brown KCMG, Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office

  During my oral evidence session on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office's 2007 Annual Human Rights Report, which took place on 7 May, I undertook to write to the Committee with further information about a number of questions.

Question 64, on the question of US interrogation techniques

  We have not conducted an exhaustive analysis of current US interrogation techniques but we expect all countries to comply with their international obligations. As the Foreign Secretary said on 12 February 2008, we consider waterboarding to be torture.

Questions 70-71, on the question of how many of the British and dual nationality detainees held in Pakistan were visited by British officials, other than on the basis of consular access

  We have a duty to respect the privacy of the individual in discussing consular cases. We cannot discuss any of the details which would not otherwise be in the public domain. This includes the disclosure of information which relates to a small number of individuals where details about an individual might be deduced, for example when put together with other publicly available information.

  Since 2000, we have been aware of six cases of British or dual British/Pakistani nationals having been detained on suspicion of terrorist offences in Pakistan. The British High Commission in Islamabad established the nationalities of all six individuals—four dual British/Pakistani nationals and two mono-British nationals. British officials sought and were granted access to the two mono-British nationals. Priority was given to the welfare of the detainees.

  Consular access was not sought in each of the six cases as four of the individuals were dual Pakistani-British nationals in the country of their other nationality. The Pakistani authorities are under no obligation to inform us of the detention of a dual Pakistani-British national nor to allow consular access. We have also requested, but are yet to be granted, consular access to one dual national on exceptional grounds in accordance with our published policy on the death penalty.

Question 83, on whether the Government will be appealing the (deportation with assurances) cases

  The Home Secretary has sought leave direct from the House of Lords to appeal the Court of Appeal Decision in the Jordanian case (Abu Qatada). We have yet to hear whether or not permission will be granted by the House of Lords (the Court of Appeal refused permission to appeal).

  After careful consideration, the Home Secretary decided not to seek to appeal the other two Libyan cases. Deportation action in those cases and in a further 10 Libyan cases has been discontinued.

Question 86, on European countries and Guantanamo

  The UK Government believes that Guantanamo Bay should be closed. The US Government is aware of our position and we welcome their recent steps to reduce the numbers of those detained there and to move towards the closure of the detention facility. These steps have included an increased emphasis on engagement with third countries over the transfer and resettlement of those detained. In order to offer practical and concrete support to US efforts, in August 2007 the Foreign Secretary and Home Secretary requested the release and return from Guantanamo Bay of five individuals who had previously been lawfully resident in the UK. In reaching this decision we gave full consideration to the need to maintain national security. Further to this request three of the individuals were returned to the UK in December.

  The Albanian Government has taken in a number of former detainees from Guantanamo who have no direct ties to Albania. In addition, the UK Government has spoken, and will continue to speak, to allies both within Europe and outside about taking similar steps to reduce the numbers of those detained at Guantanamo Bay. I hope the Foreign Affairs Committee will appreciate that these discussions are sensitive and it would not be appropriate to name specific countries.

Question 93 on Afghanistan

  The FCO Annual Human Rights Report reports the issue of civilian casualties on page 126. No reference is made to the number of civilian casualties caused by International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and international forces due to the lack of verifiable data of these incidents. Taleban accounts should not be taken at face value, as they deliberately aim to mislead.

  We remain confident that International forces are doing everything possible to minimise civilian casualties. Any loss of innocent lives is a tragedy and UK forces, ISAF and Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) forces take these incidents very seriously. The targeting process, weapons selection, doctrine, training and rules of engagement of the Allied forces are all in line with international humanitarian and human rights law and the Law of Armed Conflict. In September 2007 in response to a letter from Afghanistan's Defence Minister Wardak, ISAF and OEF introduced new processes and timelines for investigations. During his speech at the NATO summit in Bucharest in April 2008 President Karzai thanked Commander ISAF for his engagement on this issue.

  By contrast, the Taleban take no such measures when they indiscriminately target civilians with suicide bombs or improvised explosive devices. They use public buildings, including schools, hospitals and mosques, in built up civilian areas as bases and boltholes. And they have not shied away from using civilians—even children—as human shields.

  The UK and ISAF remain alert to the issue and will continue to do all they can to protect civilians in Afghanistan.

Question 108, on a legal view as to which court could respond to judicial applications in respect of violations of international law by both the Israelis and Hamas

  In the case of individual criminal liability by any individuals for grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions then national courts may have jurisdiction.

The Rt Hon Lord Malloch-Brown

Minister of State

28 May 2008





 
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