Select Committee on Procedure First Report


7  Rules on admissibility and content

116. We noted earlier in this report that the experience of the No. 10 website suggested that rules on admissibility and content are likely to be tested, sometimes deliberately, and may well need to be modified as a result. We also noted that rules designed to exclude the trivial can be difficult to frame and far from easy to implement.

117. A petition to the House of Commons must address a case over which the House has jurisdiction and must request a redress which it is in the power of the House to provide. In practice many matters which may not appear to be directly within the House's power to resolve are brought into order by the use of such devices as requesting the House to urge the Government to do certain things. Furthermore, as Erskine May states, 'if the prayer of the petition is within the power of the House to grant, the absurdity of it is no objection to the reception of the petition.'[100] To some extent the interpretation of the rules, and more particularly their application in practice, has become laxer over time as the perceived importance and effectiveness of petitions has diminished. It may therefore follow that, if the House decides to take steps to increase the effectiveness of petitions, through the introduction of an e-petitions system as proposed in this report, it should, despite the inherent difficulties, also tighten its rules against petitions on absurd, irrelevant and frivolous matters.

118. Andrew Miller told us that, in his view,—

    the wording of a petition has to have some credibility in terms of what the petitioners are seeking to achieve. It has to be written in language that a) is understandable and b) is meaningful in terms of something that can be delivered. I think it is the responsibility of the Member who is managing the petitioning process, as it is now, to be able to stand up in the House and present their petition and, if necessary, be subsequently challenged about [that].[101]

Laura Miller stressed that an e-petitions system could not be a 'free for all'. It had to be 'structured and there would have to be processes in place which would make sure that petitions were judged on their merits and then processed accordingly.'[102]

119. We agree and recommend that, in order to be admissible, e-petitions should clearly and specifically state what action the petitioners desire the House of Commons to take to remedy the matter about which they are petitioning. There should be a mechanism within the system to allow a Member who has been asked to facilitate a constituent's petition to respond that the petition is unclear or misdirected and to offer instead to correspond with the petitioner in order to bring the petition within these tighter rules.

120. The present rules require that the language of petitions must be temperate and respectful and free of offensive expressions. The House of Commons has established rules on appropriate language in debate and in motions and there is consistency between these rules and those applying to petitions. E-petitions, however, will not, in our view, be parliamentary proceedings in the formal sense until they have been presented to the House. They are therefore unlikely to be protected by parliamentary privilege from any legal action (for example on grounds of defamation). The House, as publisher of the e-petitions, will have a responsibility to ensure that the language or content of e-petitions does not render it liable to such actions.

IDENTICAL OR VERY SIMILAR PETITIONS

121. At present, it is not uncommon for national campaigns to manifest themselves in a series of effectively identical petitions from individual parliamentary constituencies or communities. In theory a similar approach could be adopted with e-petitions. It might be, for example, that many separate e-petitions would be submitted with identical wording except that each was against the closure of a different post office. Alternatively many e-petitions might be submitted on a single subject, such as climate change, which, although adopting a similar general approach to the subject, might each take a slightly different line in respect of it.

122. This latter issue was faced by the No. 10 website, as Tom Steinberg told us—

He argued that the correct approach to this issue, and to other similar issues, was to respond to the users—

    Your users will tell you many, many things if you let them about how the site would be better.[104]

123. We accept the force of this argument. The precise rules on duplication will have to be worked out in response to the use made of the system. But as a starting point we propose that e-petitions should be accepted which, although in other respects the same as an existing e-petition, relate to the specific circumstances in different locations. In other cases similar petitions should be accepted only where there are substantive differences.

124. The rules for e-petitions would thus be different, although not significantly different, from the rules governing traditional petitions. Over time those differences may become more significant not least because the rules may need to change in response to experience with the scheme. Our approach has been that e-petitions are a development of traditional petitions rather than a totally new procedure. Our recommendations reflect that approach. It might be that in due course consideration should be given to amending the rules for traditional petitions to bring them into line with the rules for e-petitions. We intend to keep under review the differences in the rules and, if necessary, will report to the House on any action that may need to be taken in respect of them.

Petitions Office

125. The initial responsibility for applying these rules to e-petitions would lie with staff of the House. The Management Board has estimated that seven staff might be needed in what would be a new Petitions Office, but has also noted that 'at this stage any estimate must be hedged with uncertainty.'[105] That Office would be responsible for passing on requests to Members to act as facilitators. Therefore Members would normally be contacted only in respect of orderly petitions. Occasionally Members might be approached by constituents who believed that their e-petition had been wrongly rejected. We are confident that the staff of the House would willingly assist Members to bring such e-petitions into order. Where necessary a Member should be able to appeal to the body charged with political authority over the scheme (see paragraph 148).


100   23rd edition p 936. Back

101   Q 9 Back

102   Q 118 Back

103   Q 106 Back

104   Ibid Back

105   Ev 58 Back


 
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