Select Committee on Procedure Minutes of Evidence


Mr Douglas Carswell MP (P10)

E-PETITIONS AND INITIATIVE: OPEN POLITICS IN THE AGE OF YOUTUBE

  This paper outlines how voters could be empowered to petition Parliament and initiate debates in the House of Commons online.

  Voter turnout has fallen steadily and there is evidence of growing disillusionment with the political process. Our system of representative democracy needs reinvigorating with a measure of direct democracy. Giving people the power to e-petition and initiate Parliamentary debates online would not diminish the role of elected MPs. On the contrary, it would ensure that more people took a greater interest in what happened in the House of Commons.

  A right of Citizen's Initiative: Voters should be given an indirect right of legislative initiative so that if enough voters demanded it, a measure would be given a Second Reading in Parliament, with a debate and a vote. Unlike a direct initiative, Parliament could not be by-passed, and any Bill would still need to be approved by MPs.

  Many Western democracies already enjoy a right of initiative; it exists in 24 out of 50 American states, as well as Switzerland, Austria, Italy, New Zealand, Hungary, Lithuania and Slovakia[2].

  How Citizens Initiatives might work in Britain: Any person would have the power to trigger the following five stage process:

    1.  To initiate a law, a person must submit a written proposal to the Clerk to the House of Commons Table Office. This could be done online or in writing. The Clerk would require relevant contact details together with a draft of the proposed wording of the petition and a draft of the petition collection form. An administration fee and deposit would be payable, too.

    2.  The second stage would determine the wording of the proposed petition and subsequent Bill. The Clerk is permitted several weeks to determine the precise wording, perhaps (as in New Zealand) having consulted with members of the public. The Clerk would have the power, in consultation with the Speaker, to rule out of order frivolous or fantastic petitions.

    Again, as in New Zealand, procedures that would prevent the petition proceeding would include the withdrawal by the original petitioner, or their death. Moreover, the petition could not proceed if in the opinion of the Clerk a similar initiative had been proposed within the previous five years.

    3.  The third stage involves collecting signatures. Citizens would have a year in which to gather signatures for the proposal. Again, this could be done online. If it was done online, voters would need to provide their names and addresses, and there would need to be some process to cross check and prevent fraud. In other countries, a threshold needs to be reached in order to trigger the initiative process[3]. Rather than pick an arbitrary threshold, we instead suggest that those half a dozen or so Bills with the highest number of signatures over the twelve month period, qualify.

    Voters could sign up online, or by more conventional means. The only requirement is that all signatories must be on the electoral roll and those who sign must provide their full name and address.

    4.  Stage four of the process would involve the Clerk checking the petition and ensuring that he was satisfied that it met the relevant criteria. Proposals that did not qualify or attract enough signatures, would fall at this stage, and the petitioners would lose their deposits.

    5.  Those half a dozen proposals that had attracted the highest number of signatures over the preceding year, would then be presented to Parliament during the State Opening of Parliament. Having read out Her conventional Queen's Speech outlining the executives legislative priorities, Her Majesty would then read out the six or so Peoples' Bills due for a Second Reading on the floor of the House of Commons over the following year. Every couple of months, Parliament would set aside time to debate and vote on one of the Peoples' Bills.

  Reconnecting with voters: There is growing and legitimate disenchantment with the political process[4]. Introducing the Initiative could re-engage a greater number of the electorate with politics.

  Empirical evidence shows that a right of initiative does increase voter turnout in elections. Voter turnout is 5% higher on average in those US states which use the Initiative, compared to those states that do not.[5]

  While not a panacea for disaffection with the political process, this proposal could help re-engage people with Parliament. A Queen's Speech that unveiled what the citizens wanted debated on the floor of the Commons would be one more people might find worth watching.

  Considered legislation: It is important to say that our proposal is not intended to replace the role of Parliament or do away with representative democracy—but to complement it. Government through elected representatives would remain the norm. Laws which had come up through the initiative process would carry extra weight and would reinforce, rather than weaken, the governing process.

  Evidence from overseas suggests that laws enacted as a result of Initiatives are as carefully debated, considered and drafted as are those laws passed through the standard legislative process. We recognise that Parliament plays an important role as—to quote Edmund Burke—"a deliberative assembly". Under our proposal for indirect initiative, Parliament would retain its deliberative role, and be able to vote on and amend a popular proposal as it could any other Bill.

  Liberal law-making: The experience of New Zealand, America and Switzerland shows that a right of popular initiative does not mean rampant populism. As Keith Joseph might have put it, "if you give people responsibility, you make them responsible".

  The default setting of people empowered to initiative lawmaking is liberal. This can be demonstrated by the fact that instead of resulting in perennial demands to restore the death penalty, referendums on the death penalty have actually resulted in its abolition (such as in Ireland in 2001). There are some states in America where capital punishment has been introduced via popular votes. Yet there are more states where this decision has been taken by representative assemblies. Frederick Boehmke has produced evidence to suggest that the initiative-operating states are less likely to adopt the death penalty than states that do not allow voters to enact legislation through initiatives[6]. With Parliament having the final say, even if a radical, populist proposal was introduced in Westminster, Members of Parliament would be able to vote it down.

  What about the cost and time?: Would it not be costly and time-consuming? Democracy does indeed take time. That is not in itself an argument against the online initiatives and e-petitioning.

  The burden on the public purse of initiatives would be very slight. The Clerk's office would incur some additional costs—albeit that they would be partly offset by the administration fee paid by petitioners. Yet apart from that, the costs of six People's Bills would be no greater than the cost of six other pieces of legislation. The cost of collecting signatures would be borne by the petitioners themselves. There is evidence from Switzerland to suggest that money spent collecting signatures does not have a huge impact on the outcome.[7]













2   While a growing number of countries have a right of initiative in theory, given the relatively high threshold required to trigger one, it is really only in the United States and Switzerland that they play an integral role in the political process. In the US and Switzerland, major issues such as immigration, taxation and environmental regulation are put to the popular ballot. Back

3   For example, the threshold is 10% in New Zealand Back

4   See Direct Democracy; an agenda for a new model party. Chapter 2. Back

5   David Schmidt, Citizen Lawmakers: the ballot initiative revolution, Temple University Press 1989. Back

6   Supply Side Politics. Matt Qvortrup. Page 17 Back

7   K Koback, The Referendum; direct democracy in Switzerland, Dartmouth Publishing, 1992. Back


 
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