Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 160-165)

DEPARTMENT FOR CHILDREN, SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES, OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT COMMERCE & HM TREASURY

14 JANUARY 2008

  Q160  Mr Bacon: The old Home Office building in Queen Anne's Gate was not sold, I seem to remember reading in the press, because at the time a high enough price was not reached and it remains therefore part of the government estate. Perhaps Mr Burt will know more about this. I think I am right in saying that something is now being done with it. Can you tell us what?

  Mr Burt: Yes, the building is being refurbished and the Ministry of Justice is going to move in there.

  Q161  Mr Bacon: The whole thing will be the Ministry of Justice building.

  Mr Burt: Yes.

  Q162  Mr Bacon: Was it not used in a film, 1984, as the Ministry of Thought?

  Mr Burt: I am not sure.

  Q163  Mr Bacon: When will that be finished?

  Mr Burt: I believe it will be finished later on this year?

  Q164  Mr Bacon: Will it be a PFI or is it going to be an on-the-books building?

  Mr Burt: I do not think it is PFI but I might be wrong. I will send you a note on that.7

  Q165  Mr Bacon: If it is, perhaps we will take a look at it.

  Mr Burt: Yes.

  Chairman: That concludes our hearing. I should say that we have had a bit of a laugh about Grimsby, but there is a serious issue behind this. Speaking for my own constituency, if you look at some government departments relocating away from smaller market towns, for instance this week we are losing our vehicle testing centre, we have lost our magistrates' courts, we are losing our police courts, there is a serious issue behind this, also the lack of progress on getting jobs out of London generally, but it has cost £6 billion to run your estate so it is a very serious issue. We would like to have you back before the end of this Parliament, Mr Smith, to see what progress you have made and we would also like to have Ms Tulett back. As you are the champion, we want you now to climb on your steed and see whether you can deliver better performance in the Treasury. I would like you back personally please. Thank you very much.

7  Note by witness: This refurbishment is not a PFI scheme and will be on the MOJ's balance sheet.





 
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