Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


HM Revenue and Customs response to further supplementary questions from Mr Mitchell and Mr Touhig

1.  Further clarification as to how a situation arose in which J Sainsbury was owed so much in corporation tax by HMRC that in March 2006 and March 2007 £3 million and £9 million had to be paid to J Sainsbury by HMRC

  Confidentiality rules preclude HMRC from providing specific information about the corporation tax affairs of J Sainsbury Plc. However, it is not unusual for HMRC to repay large corporate groups any amounts they have overpaid at the end of the year. This situation arises because large groups are obliged to pay corporation tax in four instalments, three before the final taxable profit figure is known. If a group over-estimates its liability during the year, they may end the year having paid too much and be due a repayment from HMRC. In addition, repayments made by HMRC may reflect the final settlement of earlier years that may have been the subject of HMRC enquiries or litigation.

2.  A list of the Department's Business Dinners the Department has hosted so far or plan to host in the future, including the names of invited dinner guests, along with an explanation as to why the Department is spending taxpayers' money in this way, and the benefits gained

  HMRC set up this series of dinners to bring together UK business leaders and senior officials dealing with business issues to discuss delivery of tax administration in the UK and other topical issues. They are intended to foster dialogue with business in the spirit of the Review of Links with Business published in 2006.

  You will see from the table below that HMRC hosted four dinners between January 2007 and January 2008. These dinners are an important opportunity for HMRC's key business directors to meet with opinion-forming business leaders and we are presently considering the development of the next series of events.

"Series of informal dinners with business leaders to give them an opportunity to share with us their views on the delivery of the UK tax system."

Date
Business leader Accepted the invitation

15 Jan 07
Richard Lapthorne
Chairman—Cable & Wireless
Dave Hartnett, Director General, Business
Richard Alderman—Director, National Teams & Special Civil Investigations
Stephen Banyard—Director, Business Customer Unit
Melanie Dawes—Director, Large Business Service
Naomi Ferguson—Director, Local Compliance
Geoff Lloyd—Director, Corporation Tax & VAT
Chris Tailby—Director, Anti-Avoidance Group
17 April 07Mark Otty
Chairman—Ernst & Young
Dave Hartnett, Director General, Business
Richard Alderman—Director, National Teams & Special Civil Investigations
Stephen Banyard—Director, Business Customer Unit
Melanie Dawes—Director, Large Business Service
Geoff Lloyd—Director, Corporation Tax & VAT
Chris Tailby—Director, Anti-Avoidance Group
18 Sept 07Hanif Lalani
Finance Director—British Telecom
Dave Hartnett, Director General, Business
Stephen Banyard—Director, Business Customer Unit
Melanie Dawes—Director, Large Business Service
Geoff Lloyd—Director, Corporation Tax & VAT
Judith Knott—Deputy Director, Business Customer Unit
Ian Valentine—Deputy Director, Large Business Service
29 Jan 08Steve Lucas
Finance Director—National Grid
Dave Hartnett, Acting Chairman
Stephen Banyard—Director, Business Customer Unit
Melanie Dawes—Acting Director General, Business Tax
Naomi Ferguson—Director, Local Compliance
Geoff Lloyd—Director, Corporation Tax & VAT
Chris Tailby—Director, Anti-Avoidance Group
Peter Michael—Director, Central Policy
Freda Chaloner—Director, Large Business Service


3.  Further clarification as to how many major cases has Mr Hartnett intervened in, in two years

  Mr Hartnett stated at the hearing that he has intervened in "half a dozen" major cases in the last two years and he has no reason to change that view. Mr Hartnett can intervene for a variety of reason but generally the focus in on resolving difficult tax issues. Statutory rules of confidentiality prevent the release of the names of the companies involved.

  Mr Hartnett also meets representatives of a larger number of businesses in board to board discussions of tax issues.

4.  In relation to the ad hoc 2004-05 survey of case directors into perceived levels of avoidance (ref question 11), what confidentiality rule means no data whatsoever can be released and is it not possible to say, for instance, that "x out of x companies" have established levels of tax avoidance?

  The Department is unable to provide the survey data to the Committee under HMRC's statutory obligation of confidentiality as set out in section 18 of the Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Act 2005.

5.  How many of the "approximately 150 staff" previously mentioned as working on one particular High Risk Corporates case were tax inspectors?

  The Department no longer refers to the role of tax inspector, however staff involved in this case were drawn from across the Department and included people with a range of specialist skills. This includes HMRC trained tax specialists, advisory accountants, solicitors and avoidance consultants with recent experience of working outside of HMRC. All 150 staff were deployed in some way to accelerate and conclude the approximately 200 open tax enquiries which made up this particular High Risk Corporate case.

27 June 2008





 
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