Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Letter from Permanent Secretary, Department for Work and Pensions to Committee Chairman

  1.  I was pleased to have the opportunity to share my thoughts about the way Fraud and Error is reported in our Departmental Accounts when I appeared before the Committee on 4 February; and I was particularly grateful for your invitation to follow that up with a letter setting out my views in more detail (Question 30).

  2.  I think it may help the Committee if I separate the issue into three parts:

    —  How well or badly is the Department doing in reducing the actual level of fraud and error?

    —  In what circumstances should the Department's Accounts be qualified?

    —  The evidence that a 1% threshold for qualification is unattainable.

LEVELS OF FRAUD AND ERROR

  3.  Since taking up my appointment, approaching two and a half years ago, I have, as I think the Committee knows, made bearing down on fraud and error one of my top priorities one which Ministers in the Department fully share.

  4.  As evidenced in the NAC Report, the Department has a well defined and successful strategy for tackling benefit fraud—based on prevention, detection and deterrence. At 0.6% of benefit expenditure, fraud is at its lowest ever level, down from 2% in 2000-01. We intend, nevertheless, to maintain our focus and to seek to bring about further improvements as I set out at the Committee.

  5.  With error at 1.6% in total, I accept without question that we need to do more to reduce it. The 1.6% is split equally between official error and customer error. Our response to this has been to establish an Official Error Task Force in January 2006 followed by the publication in January 2007 of our comprehensive error reduction strategy to tackle both customer and official error. By September 2007, the Task Force had been successful in identifying and correcting over £2 million in weekly errors which would have continued had the Task Force not intervened. Over the last year we have been implementing our strategy to reduce error in all benefits, including Housing Benefit, with a number of key initiatives already in place. These include further error cleansing, enhanced checking procedures and IT enhancements to stop error from occurring. The strategy aims to produce savings of £1 billion over a five year period to 2012 by reducing losses from both customer and official error.

  6.  The Department is also addressing problems associated with complexity through its benefit simplification agenda and the creation of a dedicated Simplification Unit. In parallel we are engaged in a major customer focused Change Programme which aims to provide our customers with a single point of access to all our services thus easing their access to benefits and services and helping to improve our administrative efficiency. In addition, as I set out in my recent letter to you of 24 January,[10] we have, in response to the Committee's own recommendations, thoroughly reviewed and reduced the number of our leaflets on benefits to make them more readily understandable to the public with the aim of contributing to a reduction in customer error.

ACCOUNTS QUALIFICATION

  7.  The purpose and value of an audit opinion is to inform the users of the accounts of the body concerned of matters which are material in the context of the business in question. Under Government accounting rules, our auditors are asked to provide an opinion on the accounts from both a "true and fair" and a "regularity" perspective the first of these tests being one which applies equally to private sector accounts but the second of which does not. In the discussions which the Department has been having with the NAO there is common ground that the basis of an opinion in respect of both "true and fair" and "regularity" should reflect the context of the Department's business and the expectations of the users of the accounts in particular Parliament. This is essential if a qualification is to convey information that meets the intentions and expectations of the user.

  8.  For most of the last 18 years during which the Department's accounts have been qualified, the test that has been applied to qualification has been whether fraud and error combined have exceeded a materiality threshold of 1% of total payments. For example, in the then Comptroller and Auditor General's Report on the DWP Resource Accounts for 2003-04 he said: "I have indicated to the Department that to avoid qualification it would have to reduce the level of estimated fraud and error to below one per cent of gross expenditure, equivalent to just over £1 billion in 2003-04".

  9.  More recently, however, the National Audit Office have said that their assessment of what is material for the purposes of reaching an opinion on the accounts is a matter of judgement and includes both quantitative (value) and qualitative (nature) considerations. The present Comptroller and Auditor General has very helpfully set out for me the approach that he takes on these issues based on a set of criteria for reporting materiality. In that regard he has noted that the NAC might use a percentage threshold, but are not bound to do so, and in any case may need to report on errors significant by nature, regardless of size.

  10.  I very much welcome this approach which, we believe, will enable us to work with the NAO to determine how reasonable are the Department's measures to pay each benefit accurately, to deter fraud in that benefit and how well we are doing in encouraging customers to make accurate claims. In considering our performance in context we believe, as an illustration of the benefit of such an approach, that it will, for example, allow us to consider further with the NAO the nature of customer error which, even if technically irregular, is we believe fundamentally different in kind from the other two components of total fraud and error; namely fraud itself and official error. In respect of customer error, our view is that if, at the point when a customer makes a claim for benefit, or gives us details of a change of circumstances, he or she gives us information which they believe to be true and which we have no reason to disbelieve then, in accordance with our legal obligations, we cannot do other than award entitlement on what we believe to be the true facts.

  11.  More generally, in the light of the approach which the current Comptroller and Auditor General has now set out, and which I regard as a particularly welcome development, it could be argued that it renders nugatory the question of whether there has ever been, or ever will be, a realistic prospect of the Department meeting a 1% test. Nevertheless, I believe that it is worth setting out the evidence on this issue for the Committee not least because this has been the basis on which the Department's accounts have been qualified for most of the past 18 years.

THE EVIDENCE THAT A 1% THRESHOLD IS UNATTAINABLE

  12.  The evidence that a 1% threshold is unattainable is based on two core arguments; first, the inherent implausibility of such a threshold and, secondly, the weight of comparator evidence from this country and abroad.

  13.  On the first, to come below a 1% threshold would require us to bring the total of fraud, customer error and official error, combined. below such a figure.

  14.  In respect of fraud the recent NAO Report noted that, "having reduced estimated levels of fraud to 0.6% of benefit expenditure, it is likely that the Department will find it increasingly difficult to secure significant further year on year reductions". If that is so—as I believe it is—then it follows that error, both official and customer combined, would have to fall below 0.5% compared with its present level of 1.6% for the Department to fall below a 1% threshold.

  15.  I am in no doubt that the figure of 1.6% can, and should, be reduced. At the same time we have, by common consent, a benefit system of huge complexity, involving the payment of over 40 different benefits at more than 300 different benefit rates to some 20 million people at any one time, and in a society in which people's backgrounds are now more varied and their lives now change in terms of their status, employment, location and incomes at a faster rate than, almost certain a any time in our history. Against that background, the suggestion that error, both customer and official combined, can be reduced to less than ½ p in every £1, is, in my view, simply not credible.

  16.  That conclusion to come to the second core argument is borne out by the comparator evidence both from this country and abroad.

  17.  During our discussions at our recent hearing, Members were interested in the approach adopted in countries with similar systems to ours. Indeed it is interesting to note that other countries where levels of fraud and error are comparable to ours take approaches to qualification quite different from ours.

  18.  The most authoritative evidence of this position comes from the NAO's own Report, International Benchmark of Fraud and Error in Social Security Systems, (HC 1387, 2005-06, 20 July 2006). This sought to measure levels of benefit fraud and error in nine major industrialised countries: Australia, Canada, France, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Sweden, the USA and the UK. It found that many of these countries simply do not measure fraud and error in their benefit systems. Of those that do none has overall levels of fraud and error lower than our own. The overall conclusion of the report was that the Department has levels of social security fraud and error which are similar to those in comparable countries, but has a better understanding than other nations of the problems and is doing more to tackle them.

  19.  We also appear to benchmark favourably against private sector comparators. According to a recent research paper by the Association of British Insurers,[11] the estimate of total general insurance fraud in the context of the size of the general insurance market in 2006 was 5% of net written premiums. This is a less exacting measure than the percentage of payments made, the basis that is used in determining DWP's level of fraud. While as noted in paragraph 7 above, the tests applied by their respective auditors are different, it is nevertheless noteworthy that no major insurer has had its accounts qualified as a result of experiencing this level of fraud.

  20.  In terms of the private sector more generally, research carried out for the Department by McKinsey in November 2005 found that the best practice financial institutions typically achieve "leakage" of 2%-3%. The research went on to say that comparison between the Department and financial institutions was valid and potentially useful as, like large scale financial institutions including banks and insurance companies, the DWP is required to manage a complex and variable web of financial payments efficiently and effectively.

  21.  It should also be noted, when making comparisons, that the Department is also particularly rigorous in its approach toward estimating the level of fraud and error. Estimates are prepared annually for the Resource Accounts and are conducted to Office of National Statistics standards. During 2007-08, the Department has significantly increased the timeliness of the data used to produce the estimate. Historically, the estimate has been based on previous year data. However, for the 2007-08 Resource Accounts we will incorporate six months of in-year data for the first time, We have also introduced an improved quality assurance regime and continued to refine the estimates for smaller benefit streams. For CSRO7 we plan to introduce further changes, most notably to increase the range of benefits subject to continuous measurement.

CONCLUSION

  22.  I was candid with the Committee in giving my view that, irrespective of our best efforts to date and our continuing commitment in the years to come, I regard it as impossible that we will ever get total fraud and error below 1%. That is why I said that, in my view, qualification had become, over nearly 20 years, an annual ritual which was not helpful to those who sought genuinely to understand the true financial position, regularity and performance of the Department. Nor has it been remotely helpful to me and my top team in terms of motivating our staff. Targets within an organisation which are seen as stretching, but ultimately achievable, are generally highly motivating. Targets which are seen as simply out of reach are, by contrast, highly-demotivating and, as a result, tend to lead to worse rather than better performance.

  23.  All of this said, I believe that we do now have a real opportunity to establish with the NAO a basis for supporting an opinion which fully reflects the context of the benefits we deliver and the diverse customer base that we serve. Such an approach could, I believe, provide an opinion which fully reflects the context aligned with Parliament's intentions; drive appropriate behaviours; but not in any way compromise value for money or customer service. In that context I should like to re-iterate two key points:

    —  first, that I and the DWP remain totally committed to tackling error and driving it down while continuing to maintain the focus on reducing fraud; and

    —  secondly, that we remain fully committed, equally, to continuing to provide robust estimates of overall fraud and error.

  24.  In terms of the way forward, I am pleased to say that we have been discussing these issues very fully with the Comptroller and Auditor General both with Sir John Bourn before his retirement and more recently with Tim Burr. A good understanding of the issues has been reached on both sides. As a result a clearer understanding of our audit approach has resulted and we now have a better-informed relationship. I also accept, without question, that it is for the Comptroller and Auditor General to take an independent view on each set of accounts on which he is required to reach an opinion. I hope, however, that in reaching that judgment he, as well as the Committee, will find the considerations which I have set out in this letter to be helpful.

  25.  I would, of course, be happy to discuss these issues further with the Committee. In the meantime I am copying this letter to the Chair of the Work and Pensions Select Committee; the Comptroller and Auditor General; the Permanent Secretary to the Treasury; and to my own Secretary of State.

Sir Leigh Lewis KCB

13 March 2008







10   Information provided, not printed. Back

11   Association of British Insurers Research Paper 4-General Insurance Claims Fraud, October 2007. Back


 
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