Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Letter from Mrs Ann Elizabeth Evans to Committee Chairman

  Further to my conversation with Daisy Hodgson of the National Audit Office, I was advised to write to you following my discussions with her and the release of the National Audit Office's Report.

  I am aware that you are the Chairman of the Committee of Public Accounts and that you are due to debate the above Report in October. The Report and the intended debate of this Report are of particular interest to me being a claimant of this scheme. I have, over the last nine years raised serious concerns regarding my claim and possible fraud within my claim.

  I am aware that you are a Conservative MP and I have in the past received immense support from the then Shadow Welsh Secretary, Bill Wiggin and his secretary. (This was after Chris Bryant took over the seat from Allan Rogers when he retired, as he refused to assist me any further because he has destroyed Allan Rogers' files.)

  As a Barrister and member of Inner Temple, I am also sure that you will appreciate the seriousness of the concerns that I have been trying to fetch out to the attention of the Government for the last nine years and I can only hope that I have now found someone who may be prepared to look at what has happened to my claim in the last 10 years.

  My then MP, Allan Rogers, reported my solicitors to the then Solicitors Complaints, the then claim handlers, Irisc (Aon) now Capital, instructed their fraud department to come to Cardiff and see me (where a section 9 statement was taken against the solicitors) and inspect my papers, and furthermore I met with the Government Solicitors, Messrs Nabarro Nathanson in Sheffield who also raised the same concerns about the potential fraud that was evidence within my file.

  However, the Law Society investigation took seven years to complete. Nabarro Nathanson took matters no further and having shown my papers to an independent solicitor recently, he is concerned that the fraud contained within my file, could be a much wider practice being exercised by solicitors for claimants. He believes that it could potentially open a can of worms into the financial assessment of damages in these claims.

  I am therefore setting out for you the background of my case and would be most honoured if there is a potential that I could meet with you or an assistant before the Report is debated in public.

  My Case:

  My father William John Thomas was a miner having worked from 1932-78 at Fernhill Colliery, Rhondda. In 1996 he died from Industrial Disease recorded following inquest.

  My mother died two years later in 1998. However, she was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer in Christmas 1997, one month before the final Judgment came from Mr Justice Turner. I had on behalf of my mother in September 1997, instructed Hugh James Solicitors to act in a potential claim for my mother as the widow. My mother had no capacity issues, but due to her physical mobility (severe arthritis) was not capable of handling her affairs. I was advised by Hugh James Solicitors in September 1997, five months before the Judgment, that her claim was registered and if the Judgment was in the claimants favour, then she would be one of the first widow claims to go through the system.

  It was a total shock to us, three months later to discover that she now had terminal breast cancer and was given an estimated three months to live. As any daughter would, I contacted Hugh James Solicitors and advised them of the situation.

  On release of the Judgment in January 1998, Hugh James Solicitors began a number of public meetings in the working men's clubs. Attending many of them myself to obtain information, I was advised by an employee of Hugh James Solicitors that despite the large volume of claims now flooding in, my mother was a priority as it was registered and due to her health decline.

  With the release of interim payments to widows, my mother asked me to contact Hugh James Solicitors to see if her payment was in line (my mother was now defying the Doctors without treatment and was still alive although very ill). I was assured that as it was registered she was in the next batch. Such batch never arrived. I contacted NACODS, who contacted Hugh James Solicitors on my behalf. It was discovered that the claim had never been registered. From this day in, the fight with the solicitors began. I was now assured that they would try to get an interim payment through as soon as possible. In August 1998, my mother lost her fight against cancer and no interim payment ever arrived. I was told that should a cheque arrive it was to be returned and that the claim had now been lost. Refusing to accept this I took over the claim for the Estate. It was a hard fight with Hugh James Solicitors as I had already been told by them to move the file, but to do that I would have to pay their bill. I refused and instructed them to sort it out.

  By Christmas 1998, I was now fighting for the right of the Estate where the widow had died between the Judgment and the handling agreement for ex gratia payment. This was written into the handling agreement. Matters became more intense as time went on and I found a source of help that was able to point me in the right direction of what questions I should be asking.

  In May 2001, I was forwarded the claim questionnaire to be completed. Most of the information had already been completed by the solicitors. Boxes had been ticked and information had been written in by the solicitors. I contacted the solicitors and advised them that many of their answers were incorrect and I could not agree to signing the declaration at the end of each booklet. I was told that unless I signed it and returned it to them they would refuse to look at it. I went through the questions as honestly as I could and added post it notes to those that I could not agree with. They were returned to Hugh James Solicitors and I was told on the telephone that someone would contact me to go through the form.

  Time passed and no one contacted me. I telephone the solicitors and asked what had happened to the form, I was advised that it had been sent in. This now had been sent in without anyone contacting me.

  At the same time, the Law Society was investigating the complaint for the delay in the registration of the claim that had resulted in no interim payment being received before my mother died. Also during this time, the handling agreement was finalised and a letter was them received from the solicitors advising that they now intended to warehouse all estate claims. Having come so far in this fight, I wrote personally to Mr Justice Turner to the Royal Courts of Justice on behalf of all Estate Claims. Asking not for us to be warehoused in particular to mitigating circumstances. Whilst not in court that day because I had recently fractured my leg, my correspondence to the court was read out. I also received a supportive letter from Mr Justice Turner and it was agreed that estate claims that had reached a certain point being what I veiled was the MAP stage would continue. The letter also stated that it had been my later mother's legal right to have received the interim payment before her death and also stated much to my surprise that the Judge had been told an offer had been made.

  It would appear that the day before the hearing in November 2001, Hugh James Solicitors had overnight requested an offer to be calculated. That offer changed over the next three years no less than three times. I was advised not to accept the offer as they now wished to use my later father's case to pursue the Pneumoconiosis element of the claims. Then in December 2002, I was contacted by Hugh James Solicitors who stated that a new offer had been made (it had kept going up) but if I did not accept this now it was wrong and the Government were going to take £3,000.00 of it off of me. So he advised me to accept. Also, the Law Society had told me that they could not pursue the matter until the offer was accepted. Much against my principles, I accepted the offer as I had two brothers. This would now allow the Law Society to continue.

  I was then advised by another solicitor to request a copy of my file. I never expected to find on the file what I did. The claim questionnaires were sent to Irisc for assessment together with the map for an offer. I never had any sight of the forms after they left me in May 2001. They were sent to Irisc in June 2001.

  It is for this reason that I am writing to you as the Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee and it is for this reason that the Government Solicitors and Aon fraud team were involved. As a barrister with specialism in arbitration and criminal law, I am sure that you will understand why I feel so strongly that I have to give this information to you.

  The claim questionnaires had been altered in particular to questions that raised the most special damages (damages as a result of the injury). The answers which I was now seeing on the copy documents on their file did not reflect the questionnaires that I had sent to them in May 2001. I immediately reported this to the Law Society and a fresh investigation began into my complaints.

  On another question, they told the Law Society that had they not altered the answers, then there would have been no special damages due to the client under that head. Well I believe that if that was my honest answer, then no damages should have been awarded.

  My late father retired in 1978, under a voluntary retirement scheme. Whilst he had been on sick leave up to his retirement, this was for dermatitis and photophobia of the eyes. I therefore ticked the appropriate box, however, on the amended form changed by the solicitors they had changed my answer to "retired early respitory". This was not true, but as Nabarro's told me would make a huge different to the special damages being five years loss of earnings as it was chest problems. They altered other answers which made a difference to the amount of damages and in particular, they altered the funeral account question.

  Taking into account my father had only died in 1996, there was still a copy of the funeral account available. The question had simply asked for some proof of what was paid. I ticked the box, "yes" I had a bill, their copy now had no tick. Initially, they advised the Law Society they did not have a bill. The Law Society found a copy of the bill on their file and asked for their explanation. They claimed that it was only an estimate, despite stating it had been paid with thanks. They then said that Irisc would not accept it because it had family flowers on it and it could confuse the case worker. The Solicitors gave a full explanation to the Law Society that:

  "Had they submitted the funeral account they had, in accordance with my instructions to them, then the damages on that section would only have been £143.00 that the claimant would have received. As they had not submitted the funeral account, the claimant had £300.00 plus interest. Therefore they told the Law Society that they had used their professional judgement and knowledge of the claim for the benefit of the client. The Law Society accepted this, stating that they agreed that they agreed that the forms had been changed after I had signed them, the only thing they had done wrong was not tell the client."

  This is why I am so concerned about the claims. At the end of the day, there is a declaration on the forms that you are to the best of your knowledge and belief providing correct information.

  What would have happened to me as a person had that form been spot checked and the information deemed to be incorrect as it is. I would have had a knock on my door and honestly would not have known what they were talking about. The solicitors would have said that I had signed the forms.

  It may only be £300.00, but as was agreed by Nabarro's how many £300.00s are there and how much money that amount to out of the public purse? Could there be a pattern there in the questionnaires, like the questions about pigeons!

  I am attaching a copy of the Law Society report in respect of this.[23] There are two reports because Hugh James Solicitors appealed the first report seeking judicial review proceedings to overturn their severe reprimands. However, the Law Society agreed to place the case before an independent panel for a second time to eliminate proceedings against them which is why there is a second report.

  As you can imagine, all I wanted was an honest claim in what would have been legally entitled to the Estate for the illness and death that my father suffered. Instead I will never know if the claim is right or wrong or whether there will be a knock on my door for a fraudulent claim. I am sure that it may be of interest to see how many other claims are like this and the client is not aware that their answers may have been altered using their professional knowledge for the benefit of the client.

  I am able to provide any further information that you may require as Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee and would kindly ask if I could bring my fight to you or a Member of your Committee before October.







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