Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 60-64)

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT AND DVLA

23 APRIL 2008

  Q60  Chairman: All right. I do not have any further questions. Mr Shanahan, how can we have any confidence in your enforcement abilities now, when you apparently do not know the size of the problem? We have got wildly conflicting estimates.

  Mr Shanahan: We have the results from the survey but, in addition to that, we put our own ANPR cameras in place, so I will now have a monthly number. It is raw. It is basically looking at vehicles that are in traffic. I will be able to calculate a percentage from that that identifies those that are not taxed and use that number monthly and use that to dictate what levers we have on enforcement—wheel clampers, ANPR cameras, debt collections. So I am going to use those numbers monthly to help indicate where I should put my focus.

  Chairman: I have no further questions. I think Mr Mitchell might have a question.

  Q61  Mr Mitchell: Just to return to motorbikes, why is it so difficult to read motorbikes?

  Dr Hickey: Because motorbike number plates are on the back and the traditional cameras are forward facing.

  Q62  Mr Mitchell: Does that mean that if I want to escape speed camera fines I should buy a motorbike?

  Dr Hickey: I would not wish to advise you on how to escape any fine.

  Q63  Mr Mitchell: I would evade them on a motorbike.

  Dr Hickey: ANPR cameras traditionally have been looking at front number plates, so it is more difficult to use cameras in relation to motorbikes. That is beginning to change now. DVLA now has technology with cameras which look at rear numbers as well, so we are beginning to use cameras in relation to motor cycles as well but that is just coming in now.

  Q64  Mr Mitchell: Speed cameras do show everything, because my wife has several very fetching portraits of herself from various police forces around the country. Just one more question. Are we ever going to get accurate estimates for motorbikes? It sounds like an impossible situation.

  Dr Hickey: It is a very big subject. As I say, we are clearly trying to improve it. It is worth saying that there is a significant margin of error flagged in the publication as well. We know that there is a margin of error but we continue to try and improve the quality of the service.

  Chairman: That concludes our hearing on this event. Clearly, the effectiveness of Parliamentary scrutiny has been seriously compromised and we do not expect it to happen again, Dr Hickey. Thank you.





 
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