Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 20-39)

MR DAVID GREEN QC

21 MAY 2008

  Q20  Mr Bacon: Was there just no work if it was October when the contract was originally let—presumably during April, May and June 2006 there was no work, or was there?

  Mr Green: Over that period she continued to work and, at that time, I was actively discussing the way forward for her with our non-executive directors and as a result of talking to them we designed a new process whereby the then temporary head of HR would take charge of the selection process. She looked at four CVs for what remained of the task and further tasks that needed to be done, and she reported to me and, having considered those CVs, she recommended to me that we further appoint Mrs Partridge for a period of three months.

  Q21  Mr Bacon: So that would be the July 2006 contract extension.

  Mr Green: Exactly, yes.

  Q22  Mr Bacon: When it says in the accounts she was paid £27,000 excluding VAT, or it was restated in the 2006-07 accounts as £32,000, there was a further £65,271—this is in paragraph 18, page 35 of the 2006-07 accounts. When was that £65,000 earned?

  Mr Green: That was earned in the financial year 2006-07.

  Q23  Mr Bacon: Yes, but when?

  Mr Green: That would have been—

  Q24  Mr Bacon: From July 2006 onwards or what?

  Mr Green: That would have been some of the first contract.

  Q25  Mr Bacon: It was some of the first contract.

  Mr Green: Yes.

  Q26  Mr Bacon: The contract did spill over into 2006-07.

  Mr Green: It did spill over, for the reason that she had not completed her task and, indeed, the policies that she was adapting—there were quite a few of them as I am sure you can appreciate—she did not finish those until at least after the start of the second contract.

  Q27  Mr Bacon: And once again the contract extension was with the approval of the Accounting Officer, with your approval.

  Mr Green: Yes, but obviously I would hope you would accept that a more independent process was adopted in that Mr Partridge was out of it.

  Q28  Mr Bacon: It just seems a bit rum that the Chief Operating Officer should be appointed in September and almost his first act was to appoint his wife to what turned to be £100,000 worth of consultancy work.

  Mr Green: Yes.

  Q29  Mr Bacon: And it was done with your approval.

  Mr Green: Yes.

  Q30  Mr Bacon: And your knowledge.

  Mr Green: Yes.

  Q31  Mr Partridge was in the end sacked for gross misconduct, was he not?

  Mr Green: Yes.

  Q32  Mr Bacon: The reason for that was because you did not know that he was the company secretary of the entity to which monies were paid.

  Mr Green: That is right.

  Q33  Mr Bacon: The fact that he was paying his wife the money was not as it were "the problem" it was the fact that he had the company secretaryship of the corporate entity, the incorporated company to which the monies were being paid that was the problem.

  Mr Green: I think you would agree, Mr Bacon, that that made the propriety aspect—

  Q34  Mr Bacon: Even worse.

  Mr Green: Very, very difficult indeed and it was something that he had withheld from me, which I regarded as serious, which is why I suspended him in February.

  Q35  Mr Bacon: Why did not some basic due diligence throw that up? Obviously you knew the money was being paid to an entity rather than to an individual, Mr Partridge.

  Mr Green: Yes.

  Q36  Mr Bacon: Would not the most basic bit of due diligence about that company, and indeed a search of Companies House, have revealed who the officers of the company were?

  Mr Green: The problem was this, that when she started she was a sole trader. The company was actually incorporated, UK People Business Limited, in February, on 27 February 2006. He actually became company secretary in October 2006 but retrospective to February. He became company secretary certainly during the currency of the second contract.

  Q37  Mr Bacon: Quite late on, a year after he started as Chief Operating Officer he became company secretary.

  Mr Green: That is right, but it became apparent from the investigation that the possibility of him becoming company secretary had been at least mooted in January 2006; it had not been mentioned when the contract was renewed in the summer of 2006, nor had it been mentioned when he had actually taken up and signed the forms in October.

  Q38  Mr Bacon: I can see that as a point of form the propriety issue is very stark, it is clear that he has become an executive, but as a point of substance there was just as big a problem beforehand, he hired his wife to do all this work.

  Mr Green: For the reasons I gave I absolutely agree it should not have happened and the process was imperfect, but this was value for money, she did a good job.

  Q39  Mr Bacon: Can you just remind us which set of chambers you were in before you—

  Mr Green: 18 Red Lion Court.



 
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