Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary memorandum from HM Treasury

  I am writing to follow up points raised at the PAC hearing on 21 May.

ACCOUNTING OFFICER RESPONSIBILITIES

  1.  Mr Griffiths asked about Treasury oversight on departments' expenditure and activities. The chairman returned to the issue later in the hearing.

  2.  As I explained to the committee, the Treasury looks to Accounting Officers to deliver the standards of resource management and accountability expected of those managing public funds. These were recently refreshed (though not changed) in Managing Public Money. I enclose a copy of the relevant chapter which delineates the responsibilities of Accounting Officers.[7]

  3.  With this vital safeguard in place, the Treasury does not seek to micro manage departments or other public sector organisations. It is important that departments are free to develop systems and processes appropriate to their own circumstances so that they can operate efficiently to deliver the policies and outcomes that ministers want. The Treasury concentrates on strategic issues, notably delivery of public service agreements (PSAs) and now departmental strategic objectives (DSOs).

  4.  As a safety net there are always systems providing for exception reporting, dialogue about major investment projects and clearance of novel and contentious transactions. These systems are agreed between the Treasury and departments, bespoke to the circumstances and may be renegotiated from time to time. In particular, it is usual for Treasury oversight to be more intensive for unfamiliar or unusual transactions or events.

  5.  Turning now to specific circumstances of RCPO, it was unusual to have a new department headed by someone unfamiliar with the standards of the public sector. What went wrong was that Mr Green did not get specific support to help him through the startup process.

  6.  The Treasury intends to:

    —  alert departments generally to the need for customised day to day support for new public sector organisations, especially where the Accounting Officer is new to the public service. The responsibility should normally fall primarily to the sponsor department of a new department (or new NDPB);

    —  arrange specific bespoke training facilities with the National School for Government for Accounting officers in these circumstances; and

    —  arrange to tell new Accounting Officers to new public sector organisations about the support available when they are appointed.

  7.  The NSG is still designing the courses for the Treasury. What they have in mind is tailored advice and support to meet the needs of individuals newly appointed as Accounting Officers in the context of the organisations they are to lead. They will offer the expertise of a number of former Accounting Officers, who already work as Associates of the NSG, including two or three former Permanent Secretaries. These additional services will be made available to those who have attended the NSG's Introduction to Public Accountability course from which NSG will be able to identify their backgrounds and needs.

OTHER PROSECUTING AUTHORITIES

  8.  As I warned at the hearing, a good number of public sector organisations employ barristers routinely. It is proving to be a substantial task to track them down and gather information about how they manage the fees they pay the barristers they use. I hope to let you have a fuller note on this shortly. In the meantime, it may be helpful to provide the committee with some information on the two leading prosecuting authorities.

  9.  The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) operates agreed billing arrangements with the bar to ensure that bills are submitted in reasonable time. In most cases, the barristers they employ submit an invoice within three months of the end of each case. For high cost cases, CPS makes staged payments, subject to progress, and requires barristers to make claims within 20 days of the end of each stage. CPS keeps track of compliance by undertaking regular checks and prosecution costs audits. CPS is satisfied that these arrangements are working well though it continuously strives to improve performance.

  10.  The Serious Fraud Office (SFO) also aims for limited delay in finalising payments by operating a purchase orders system, which captures most information about barristers' expenditure at the point of delivery. Divisions within the SFO responsible for investigating and prosecuting cases are fully seized of the need to ensure that barristers' invoices are received promptly.

Paula Diggle

Treasury Officer of Accounts

11 June 2008





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