Select Committee on Scottish Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Memoranda submitted by The Poverty Alliance

1.  INTRODUCTION

  1.1  The Poverty Alliance welcomes the opportunity to respond to the Scottish Affairs Committee inquiry into Poverty in Scotland. The Poverty Alliance is an independent non-political, voluntary organisation with charitable status that acts as the national anti-poverty network in Scotland. We have over 100 members and a contact network of more than 600 groups and individuals. The main aim of the Alliance is to help tackle poverty. In order to achieve this aim we carry out a range of activities to deliver the following objectives:

    —  To empower people living in poverty to combat poverty on their own behalf.

    —  To build the capacity of agencies to work effectively with people who are seeking to combat poverty on their own behalf.

    —  To support the development of social policies which promote social justice and combat poverty.

  The Alliance currently receives core funding from the Scottish Executive. In addition funding is also received from a number of Scottish Local Authorities and charitable trusts and foundations. Further information regarding the work of the Alliance can be found on our website at www.povertyalliance.org and in our annual report 2005-06.

  1.2  This response is significantly informed by the findings of the Get Heard project in Scotland. This project sought to ensure that the voices of people with experience of poverty were heard in the development of the National Action Plan on Social Inclusion 2006-08. Across the UK the Get Heard project was responsible for over 140 workshops looking at what is and is not working in relation to current social inclusion policies and what needs to change. The UK report can be accessed at the UK Coalition Against Poverty's website: www.ukcap.org/getheard. A full report[1] from the 50 Scottish Get Heard workshops was recently published by the Poverty Alliance and will be submitted to the Committee as part of this inquiry.

2.  WHAT IS POVERTY?

  2.1  Definitions of poverty are more than merely technical issues of interest only to academics. In many ways the definition we adopt can determine the way that we conceptualise poverty and will therefore have a significant bearing on the solutions that are proposed. Much has been written on how best to define poverty and there has been significant progress in recent years in the UK in developing new measures with which to track progress in tackling poverty. We would recommend that as part of their deliberations, the Committee consider Professor Ruth Lister's recent publication that deals with the question of defining poverty.[2] We would also note that the terms of the debate have changed little since the Committee conducted its first inquiry in 2000, and much that was in the original report still stands.

  2.2  As Professor Lister shows, recent debates regarding the definition of poverty have been dominated by the absolute and relative dichotomy. Absolute poverty refers to the level of resources required to meet basic physical needs. We would reject a "subsistence" notion of poverty. Rather, we would adopt a "relative" definition of poverty that locates the experience within the society that an individual lives. Lister refers to Peter Townsend when defining relative poverty:

    "Individuals, families and groups in the population can be said to be in poverty when they lack the resources to obtain the types of diet, participate in the activities and amenities which are customary, or are at least widely encouraged and approved, in the societies to which they belong."[3]

  2.3  Any definition of poverty must therefore begin with income (resources), but we cannot consider that income on its own. Crucially, our definition and understanding of poverty must include the extent to which individuals are able to participate in society.

  2.4 This approach is one that is reflected in the comments and experience of those taking part in the Get Heard project:

    "poverty is fundamentally about living on a low income: it is about having to think twice about whether you can afford to send a child to the pictures with her friends; it is about being forced to decide between a school trip and healthier food, about figuring out where the next meal is going to come from when all you have is a couple of pounds."[4]

  2.5  Any definition of poverty must reflect the multidimensional nature of the phenomena: poverty is not simply about a low income, it is also about the impact that it has on an individual's ability to participate in society. Such a broad definition of poverty allows us to look at a range of possibilities when considering action to tackle poverty. Whilst ensuring that people have an adequate income will be at the heart of any anti-poverty strategy, such a such must also look at how people access the labour market, the kinds of services they are able to call upon, the ability to take part in cultural activities.

  2.6  The UK Government's new approach to measuring child poverty goes some way towards integrating a relative definition of poverty into the measure.[5] By combining measures of relative and "absolute" low income with a measure of material deprivation, the new approach highlights the impact that living on a low income has on individuals and families. We have welcomed this new approach and would like to see it applied to all groups in society. The UK Government has been ambitious in setting targets and developing new measures for child poverty, we would like to see similar commitments and measures put in place for pensioners and adults with and without children.

3.  THE EXTENT OF POVERTY IN SCOTLAND

  3.1  Just as there has been progress in the ways in which we conceptualise and measure poverty in recent years, there have also been significant improvements in the data available to track progress in tackling poverty and the impact of poverty. We will not attempt to cover this area in detail, but will only highlight a few key indicators.

  3.2  Much attention has been given to the UK Government's commitment to eradicating child poverty. There has been real progress made in Scotland in this respect. The decline in child poverty in Scotland has been particularly notable, falling from 33% to 23% between 1996-97 and 2004-05, a fall of some 25%. This decline has been greater than for Great Britain as a whole where child poverty has gone from 33% to 27%, a fall of 17%.[6] These falls are both welcomed and the UK Government and Scottish Executive should be congratulated in making and maintaining these commitments. In explaining the difference between Scotland and GB we would like to be able to point to clear reasons why the fall has been greater in Scotland, but we are unable. As we have stated previously,[7] it is crucial that we understand the reasons for this differential, particularly given the difficulty that is likely to be encountered in maintaining this progress in the future. We hope that the Committee's inquiry may help to shed some light on the question.

  3.3  The extent of poverty amongst other groups in society has also fallen, both amongst adults and pensioners. In particular, the proportion of pensioners living in low-income households in Scotland has fallen from 30% in 1996-97 to 16% in 2004-05. In adult households the fall has been less dramatic, from 20% to 18% over the same period.[8]

  3.4  To summarise, child poverty and pensioner poverty have fallen significantly in recent years. It must be of some concern that the decline in adult households in low income has been less dramatic, indeed the figures could be seen as roughly static. More alarming is the situation with regard to adults without children. Figures for 2004-05 have not been published but in 2003-04 it was clear that the risk of living in a low income household had not declined for single and adult couples without children, and if anything had in fact increased.[9] This is an issue that has, we believe, been studiously avoided by policy makers north and south of the border.

  3.5  It should also be noted that despite some marked improvement, lone parents are more likely to live on low incomes. People with disabilities are also more likely to be living on low incomes. It is with some concern that we note that there is still a real problem in identifying the proportion of people in Black and Ethnic Minority (BME) communities who are living in poverty. In any demographic group, women are still more likely to live in poverty.

4.  CAUSES OF POVERTY IN SCOTLAND

  4.1  The causes of poverty are many, and just as there is no single policy solution to such a complex interrelated set of problems, there is no single cause. The discussion of the causes of poverty that were discussed in the Committee's original inquiry still stand: the lack of employment, low paid employment, poor health, lower educational attainment, low benefit rates, inadequate pensions, insecure employment, lack of access to services, etc. This list still stands and we would perhaps add to it by noting the impact of the council tax as a cause of poverty, particularly amongst those who are not eligible for Council Tax Benefit eg low paid workers.

  4.2  In any discussion of the causes of poverty we would encourage the Committee to focus on the structural causes, rather than locating causes with individual behaviours. Much has been written over the last 10 years about the "rights and responsibilities" agenda that has been pursued by the Government in relation to anti-poverty policy. It is our experience, reinforced by the evidence gathered through Get Heard, that people are more than willing to fulfil their responsibility to lead lives free from poverty. Their ability to do so, however, is more often than not undermined by lack of jobs, low paid work, low levels of benefits, etc.

5.  THE IMPACT OF GOVERNMENT POLICY

  5.1  It is not the intention here to look in any depth at the impact of the range of Government policies on poverty and social exclusion. Since the Committee conducted the last inquiry into poverty in Scotland the policy field has become significantly more complex. The Scottish Executive and Parliament are now well established parts of the policy making process, with a well developed and in many areas, distinct, policy agenda from that pursued south of the border. It is, of course, impossible to consider the actions of the Scottish Executive in isolation when looking at the impact of anti-poverty or social inclusion policy. A summary of some of the "highlights" of anti-poverty policy shows that both make significant contributions to the fight against poverty:

    —  The launch of the Scottish Executive's Social Justice Strategy in 1999 and its subsequent revision and emergence as the Closing the Opportunity Gap approach in 2004;

    —  The publication of seven Opportunity for All reports by the UK Government and the ongoing monitoring of a wide range of indicators;

    —  The introduction of a National Minimum Wage and its annual above inflation increases;

    —  The implementation of the Scottish Executive's Central Heating programme and the reduction in fuel poverty amongst pensioners;

    —  Free personal care for the elderly in Scotland;

    —  The SureStart programme;

    —  The implementation of the Financial Inclusion Action Plan by the Scottish Executive and the support given to credit unions.

  5.2  The number and range of initiatives aimed at tackling poverty and social exclusion in Scotland and across the UK is impressive. The most recent UK National Action Plan (NAP) on Social Inclusion 2006-08 gives an indication of some of the key priorities for the Government and the contribution that devolved administrations, local authorities, voluntary organisations and a range of other stakeholders make to the fight against poverty.[10] However despite the progress that has been made, there remain significant problems. This final section will consider, in brief, issues connected to rural poverty, financial inclusion and work as a route out of poverty.

  5.3  The Geography of Poverty: Although the problems of poverty are clearly more prevalent in urban areas, the impact of living on a low income in a rural area can be severe. Central to the experience of rural poverty is access to services. Issues that emerged through the Get Heard project included access to transport and the availability of childcare. Poor or inadequate public transport links in rural areas restricted opportunities to access paid employment, to visit health centres or GPs, to access cheaper food at large stores, etc.

  5.4  Childcare, seen as essential in order to allow parents to be able to return to work, was seen by parents taking part in Get Heard as inaccessible and costly. It would seem that state support, such as that which has been available to keep rural post offices open, is required to make child care a genuine possibility for those living on low incomes in rural areas.

  5.4  Financial Inclusion: Much has been done in Scotland to address problems associated with over-indebtedness, financial exclusion and access to credit. Despite this activity, participants in the Get Heard project in Scotland noted many times the serious impact that debt has in their lives. Access to affordable credit was seen as a priority. Where people knew of their existence, credit unions were seen as a useful resource. However, it was noted that accessing this kind of credit requires savings to be made first. High interest forms of credit, from "catalogues" to loan sharks, are easily accessible and can provide an instant fix to short term financial problems. As one participant stated:

    "When you have kids and you need things for them it's easy to forget that you have to pay it back. Once a week Provident loans come round your door offering £100 on that day, no bother... it's a lifeline, not a fix."

  5.5  Social Fund Crisis Loans were not seen as a solution: they were difficult to access and the levels of credit available did not significantly contribute to solving the financial problems that people faced. It is particularly disappointing to note that this service is still beset with problems. The Social Fund has the potential to provide an important lifeline to those on low incomes and to provide an alternative to high interest forms of lending. We would ask the Committee to restate its original recommendation that a full review of the Social Fund is carried out and that this review should consider ways through the Fund could become more accessible and helpful to those in need.

  5.6  Despite some progress many participants felt that there were barriers in setting up bank accounts. Some of these barriers were practical and were linked to the withdrawal of services from some areas. There has been much publicity around the charging for cash machine services and the impact that this can have on people living on low incomes. In some cases banks have agreed to install and support cash machines in areas of disadvantage, a welcome recognition of their own corporate social responsibility. We would urge the Committee to consider what pressure can be brought to bear on banks and other financial institutions in order that they ensure that a full range of services are available to all customers.

  5.7  Work as a route out of poverty: The Welfare Reform Agenda: Tackling unemployment and helping people back into the labour market have been central to anti-poverty policy in Scotland and the UK since the 1990s. The UK Government and Scottish Executive have both seen work as "the best route out of poverty". Coupled with efforts to help people back into work, an early focus of policy was also to "make work pay", most notably through the introduction of the National Minimum Wage. The recent Welfare Reform Bill is the latest step in the welfare to work agenda. Whilst we agree that for many people, paid employment can be a successful ladder out of poverty, we believe that a number of issues have not be given sufficient attention in the development of the latest proposals. We will summarise some of these issues very briefly[11]:

  5.8  Availability of jobs. It is taken for granted that there are jobs available for all those who are able to work. We are very sceptical of this belief. In areas where poverty is high, jobs are often very scarce. There may be large numbers of vacancies in the economy, but this does not mean that these jobs are suitable for those who may be able to return to work, or that they are located in the areas where they are need, or that people have the skills to be able to undertake them. Additional support for people attempting to return to work, whether in the form of training, job search advice, confidence building etc, is very welcome and the individually tailored approach is one that was endorsed by Get Heard participants. However, all of this support will be wasted is appropriate job opportunities are not available.

  5.9  Quality of jobs: Many of those who are the subjects of the latest round of welfare reform face significant barriers in attempting to return to work. Although the minimum wage has addressed many of the most exploitative pay rates, it does not on its own lift people out of poverty. Added to the continuing problem of low pay is the short term, temporary nature of many jobs. These jobs offer little prospect of a sustained route out of poverty. A welfare reform programme based on moving people into jobs at the lower end of the labour market is unlikely to be successful in addressing poverty. The Committee should consider the role of the UK Government with regard to job creation in disadvantaged areas.

  5.10  Employer engagement: This is an area where far more work needs to be carried out. Any welfare to work strategy must fully consider the question of employer engagement and employer discrimination. A recent survey referred to by John Philpott[12] has shown that most employers are unwilling to employ people with complex needs such as mental health problem. There is little evidence to show that Government has seriously considered issue of how employers are to be encouraged to take on people with complex needs, particularly in a labour market that is becoming more competitive. Again, the welfare to work strategy is unlikely to lead to positive outcomes for unemployed people if the Government does not find ways of engaging with employers and addressing the discrimination that many people with complex needs face.

6.  CONCLUSIONS

  6.1  This response has only touched on some of the key issues relating to poverty in Scotland. It is clear that since the last inquiry a good deal of progress has been made in reducing levels of poverty amongst some groups. However, far more still needs to be done to create a Scotland that is free of poverty and social exclusion. The Poverty Alliance looks forward to contributing additional information to the Committee and awaits with interest the final conclusions of the inquiry.

Peter Kelly

The Poverty Alliance

October 2006








1   Burnett, L (2006) Dignity shouldn't have to be earned! Get Heard Scotland Final Report, Poverty Alliance: Glasgow. Back

2   Lister, R (2004) Poverty, Polity Press: Cambridge. Back

3   ibid, p 21. Back

4   Burnett, L (2006) Dignity shouldn't have to be earned! Get Heard Scotland Final Report, Poverty Alliance: Glasgow, p 44. Back

5   Department for Work and Pensions (2003) Measuring Child Poverty, DWP: London. Back

6   CPAG (2006) Media Briefing: The Governments Child Poverty Target, www.cpag.org.uk. All figures in this paper are based on 60% of median household income after housing costs. Back

7   Kelly, P (2005) Progress in Tackling Poverty? Low Income Households in Scotland 2004/04, Briefing No 4, Poverty Alliance: Glasgow. Back

8   Scottish Executive (2006) Scottish Households Below Average Income 2004-05, Statistics Publication Notice, 9 March. Back

9   Kelly, P (2005) Progress in Tackling Poverty? Low Income Households in Scotland 2004/04, Briefing No 4, Poverty Alliance: Glasgow. Back

10   DWP (2006) Working Together: UK National Action Plan on Social Inclusion 2006-08. Back

11   The Poverty Alliance response to the Welfare Reform Green Paper will be forwarded to the Committee for their information. Back

12   Philpott, J (2006) "Core Jobless and Welfare Reform", Scottish Anti Poverty Review, Issue No 3, Poverty Alliance: Glasgow. Back


 
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