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‘(3)    

If such an application is made within that period and the application is

 

refused, the property may be detained until there is no further possibility

 

of an appeal against—

 

(a)    

the decision to refuse the application, or

 

(b)    

any decision made on an appeal against that decision.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

165

 

Clause  36,  page  32,  line  41 ,  at end insert—

 

‘(4)    

In subsection (2) the reference to the period mentioned in section 47J

 

includes that period as extended by any order under section 47M.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

166

 

Clause  36,  page  33,  line  7,  at end insert—

 

‘(3)    

If such an application is made within that period and the application is

 

refused, the property may be detained until there is no further possibility

 

of an appeal against—

 

(a)    

the decision to refuse the application, or

 

(b)    

any decision made on an appeal against that decision.’.

 

James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

114

 

Clause  36,  page  33,  line  15,  leave out ‘ A magistrates’ court’ and insert ‘The

 

Crown Court’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

167

 

Clause  36,  page  33,  line  20,  leave out ‘free property held by the defendant’ and

 

insert ‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

168

 

Clause  36,  page  33,  line  20,  before ‘, and’ insert ‘other than exempt property

 

(within the meaning of section 47C(4))’.

 

James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

115

 

Clause  36,  page  33,  line  27,  at end insert ‘provided that the Court shall only extend

 

the period of detention under Clause 47J by such period as it considers reasonable and

 

proportionate’.

 

James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

116

 

Clause  36,  page  33,  line  36,  leave out subsection (5).


 
 

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James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

117

 

Clause  36,  page  33,  line  40,  at end insert—

 

‘47MA

Right of third parties to make representations

 

(1)    

The Crown Court must, on an application by a person, give the person an

 

opportunity to make representations in proceedings before making an order under

 

section 47M if it considers that the making of the order would be likely to have a

 

significant adverse effect on that person.

 

(2)    

The Crown Court must, on an application by a person, give the person an

 

opportunity to make representations in proceedings before it about the variation

 

of an order under section 47M if it considers that—

 

(a)    

the variation of the order; or

 

(b)    

a decision not to vary it;

 

    

would be likely to have a significant adverse effect on that person.

 

(3)    

The Crown Court must, on an application by a person, give the person an

 

opportunity to make representations in proceedings before it about the discharge

 

of an order under section 47M if it considers that—

 

(a)    

the discharge of the order; or

 

(b)    

a decision not to discharge it;

 

    

would be likely to have a significant adverse effect on that person.

 

(4)    

The Court of Appeal when considering an appeal in relation to an order under

 

section 47M must, on an application by a person, give the person an opportunity

 

to make representations in the proceedings if that person were given an

 

opportunity to make representations in the proceedings which are the subject of

 

the appeal.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

169

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  1,  leave out paragraphs (b) and (c) and insert ‘or

 

( )    

any person affected by the order.’.

 

James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

118

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  21,  leave out ‘magistrates’ court’ and insert ‘Crown

 

Court’.

 

James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

119

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  23,  leave out ‘Crown Court’ and insert ‘Court of Appeal’.

 

James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

120

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  25,  leave out ‘Crown Court’ and insert ‘Court of Appeal’.


 
 

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James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

121

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  26,  leave out ‘magistrates’ court’s’ and insert ‘Crown

 

Court’s’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

170

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  26,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

a person mentioned in section 47M(3), or’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

171

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  27,  leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and insert—

 

‘( )    

any person affected by the order.’.

 

James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

122

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  29,  leave out subsection (3).

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

172

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  31,  at end insert—

 

‘47OA

Detention of property pending section 47O appeal

 

(1)    

This section applies where—

 

(a)    

an application for an order under section 47M is made within the

 

period mentioned in section 47J, and

 

(b)    

the application is refused.

 

(2)    

This section also applies where—

 

(a)    

an order is made under section 47M extending the period for

 

which property may be detained under section 47J, and

 

(b)    

the order is discharged or varied so that detention of the property

 

is no longer authorised by virtue of the order.

 

(3)    

The property may be detained until there is no further possibility of an

 

appeal against the decision to refuse the application or discharge or vary

 

the order (as the case may be).’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

262

 

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Clause  36,  page  34,  line  31,  at end insert—

 

‘47OB

 Hearsay evidence in detention order proceedings

 

(1)    

Evidence must not be excluded in detention order proceedings on the

 

ground that it is hearsay (of whatever degree).

 

(2)    

Sections 2 to 4 of the Civil Evidence Act 1995 apply in relation to

 

detention order proceedings as those sections apply in relation to civil

 

proceedings.

 

(3)    

Detention order proceedings are proceedings—


 
 

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(a)    

for an order under section 47M;

 

(b)    

for the discharge or variation of such an order;

 

(c)    

on an appeal under section 47O.

 

(4)    

Hearsay is a statement which is made otherwise than by a person while

 

giving oral evidence in the proceedings and which is tendered as

 

evidence of the matters stated.

 

(5)    

Nothing in this section affects the admissibility of evidence which is

 

admissible apart from this section.’.

 

James Brokenshire

 

Mr David Ruffley

 

123

 

Clause  36,  page  34,  line  37,  leave out paragraph (b).

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

173

 

Clause  36,  page  35,  line  12,  leave out subsection (3) and insert—

 

‘(3)    

Omit section 45 (seizure).’.

 


 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

174

 

Clause  37,  page  36,  line  1,  leave out ‘property held by the person’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

175

 

Clause  37,  page  36,  line  9,  leave out ‘property held by the person’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

176

 

Clause  37,  page  36,  line  16,  leave out ‘property held by the accused’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

177

 

Clause  37,  page  36,  line  21,  leave out ‘property held by the accused’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

178

 

Clause  37,  page  37,  line  4,  at end insert—

 

‘(11)    

In relation to the first or second condition references in sections 127C to 127P to

 

the accused are to the person mentioned in that condition.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

179

 

Clause  37,  page  37,  line  4,  at end insert—


 
 

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‘(12)    

In relation to the first or second condition section 144(8) has effect as if

 

proceedings for the offence had been started against the accused when the

 

investigation was started.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

180

 

Clause  37,  page  37,  line  7,  leave out ‘free property held by the accused’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

181

 

Clause  37,  page  37,  line  24,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

In relation to realisable property which is free property held by the recipient of a

 

tainted gift, references in subsection (4) to the accused are to be read as references

 

to the recipient of that gift.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

182

 

Clause  37,  page  39,  line  2,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

An officer exercising a power under subsection (4) may detain the vehicle for so

 

long as is necessary for its exercise.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

263

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  37,  page  40,  line  43,  leave out subsection (2) and insert—

 

‘(2)    

The property may be detained initially for a period of 48 hours.

 

(2A)    

But it must be released if within that period the appropriate officer—

 

(a)    

ceases to be satisfied as mentioned in section 127B(1), or

 

(b)    

ceases to have reasonable grounds for the suspicion mentioned in section

 

127C(1).’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

183

 

Clause  37,  page  41,  line  10,  at end insert—

 

‘(3)    

If such an application is made within that period and the application is

 

refused, the property may be detained until there is no further possibility

 

of an appeal against (or review of)—

 

(a)    

the decision to refuse the application, or

 

(b)    

any decision made on an appeal against (or review of) that

 

decision.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

184

 

Clause  37,  page  41,  line  10,  at end insert—

 

‘(4)    

In subsection (2) the reference to the period mentioned in section 127J

 

includes that period as extended by any order under section 127M.’.


 
 

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Mr Vernon Coaker

 

185

 

Clause  37,  page  41,  line  20,  at end insert—

 

‘(3)    

If such an application is made within that period and the application is

 

refused, the property may be detained until there is no further possibility

 

of an appeal against (or review of)—

 

(a)    

the decision to refuse the application, or

 

(b)    

any decision made on an appeal against (or review of) that

 

decision.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

186

 

Clause  37,  page  41,  line  32,  leave out ‘free property held by the accused’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

187

 

Clause  37,  page  41,  line  32,  before ‘, and’ insert ‘other than exempt property

 

(within the meaning of section 127C(4))’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

188

 

Clause  37,  page  42,  line  12,  leave out paragraphs (b) and (c) and insert ‘or

 

( )    

any person affected by the order.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

189

 

Clause  37,  page  42,  line  37,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

a person mentioned in section 127M(3), or’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

190

 

Clause  37,  page  42,  line  38,  leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and insert—

 

‘( )    

any person affected by the order.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

191

 

Clause  37,  page  42,  line  41,  leave out ‘30’ and insert ‘21’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

192

 

Clause  37,  page  42,  line  44,  at end insert—

 

‘127OA 

Detention of property pending section 127O appeal

 

(1)    

This section applies where—

 

(a)    

an application for an order under section 127M is made within

 

the period mentioned in section 127J, and

 

(b)    

the application is refused.

 

(2)    

This section also applies where—

 

(a)    

an order is made under section 127M extending the period for

 

which property may be detained under section 127J, and


 
 

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(b)    

the order is discharged or varied so that detention of the property

 

is no longer authorised by virtue of the order.

 

(3)    

The property may be detained until there is no further possibility of an

 

appeal against the decision to refuse the application or discharge or vary

 

the order (as the case may be).’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

193

 

Clause  37,  page  43,  line  11,  leave out subsection (3) and insert—

 

‘(3)    

Omit section 126 (seizure).’.

 


 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

194

 

Clause  38,  page  44,  line  5,  leave out ‘property held by the person’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

195

 

Clause  38,  page  44,  line  13,  leave out ‘property held by the person’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

196

 

Clause  38,  page  44,  line  20,  leave out ‘property held by the defendant’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

197

 

Clause  38,  page  44,  line  25,  leave out ‘property held by the defendant’ and insert

 

‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

198

 

Clause  38,  page  45,  line  9,  at end insert—

 

‘(12)    

In relation to the first or second condition section 225(9) has effect as if

 

proceedings for the offence had been started against the defendant when the

 

investigation was started.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

199

 

Clause  38,  page  45,  line  12,  leave out ‘free property held by the defendant’ and

 

insert ‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

200

 

Clause  38,  page  45,  line  30,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

In relation to realisable property which is free property held by the recipient of a

 

tainted gift, references in subsection (4) to the defendant are to be read as

 

references to the recipient of that gift.’.


 
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