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Public Bill Committee: 24 February 2009                  

254

 

Policing and Crime Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

264

 

Clause  38,  page  49,  line  7,  leave out subsection (2) and insert—

 

‘(2)    

The property may be detained initially for a period of 48 hours.

 

(2A)    

But it must be released if within that period the appropriate officer—

 

(a)    

ceases to be satisfied as mentioned in section 195B(1), or

 

(b)    

ceases to have reasonable grounds for the suspicion mentioned in section

 

195C(1).’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

202

 

Clause  38,  page  49,  line  19 ,  at end insert—

 

‘(3)    

If such an application is made within that period and the application is

 

refused, the property may be detained until there is no further possibility

 

of an appeal against—

 

(a)    

the decision to refuse the application, or

 

(b)    

any decision made on an appeal against that decision.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

203

 

Clause  38,  page  49,  line  19 ,  at end insert—

 

‘(4)    

In subsection (2) the reference to the period mentioned in section 195J

 

includes that period as extended by any order under section 195M.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

204

 

Clause  38,  page  49,  line  29,  at end insert—

 

‘(3)    

If such an application is made within that period and the application is

 

refused, the property may be detained until there is no further possibility

 

of an appeal against—

 

(a)    

the decision to refuse the application, or

 

(b)    

any decision made on an appeal against that decision.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

205

 

Clause  38,  page  49,  line  42,  leave out ‘free property held by the defendant’ and

 

insert ‘realisable property’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

206

 

Clause  38,  page  49,  line  42,  before ‘, and’ insert ‘other than exempt property

 

(within the meaning of section 195C(4))’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

207

 

Clause  38,  page  50,  line  25,  leave out paragraphs (b) and (c) and insert ‘or

 

( )    

any person affected by the order.’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 24 February 2009                  

255

 

Policing and Crime Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

208

 

Clause  38,  page  51,  line  7,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

a person mentioned in section 195M(3), or’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

209

 

Clause  38,  page  51,  line  8,  leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and insert—

 

‘( )    

any person affected by the order.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

210

 

Clause  38,  page  51,  line  12,  at end insert—

 

‘195OA 

Detention of property pending section 195O appeal

 

(1)    

This section applies where—

 

(a)    

an application for an order under section 195M is made within

 

the period mentioned in section 195J, and

 

(b)    

the application is refused.

 

(2)    

This section also applies where—

 

(a)    

an order is made under section 195M extending the period for

 

which property may be detained under section 195J, and

 

(b)    

the order is discharged or varied so that detention of the property

 

is no longer authorised by virtue of the order.

 

(3)    

The property may be detained until there is no further possibility of an

 

appeal against the decision to refuse the application or discharge or vary

 

the order (as the case may be).’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

265

 

Clause  38,  page  51,  line  12,  at end insert—

 

‘195OB 

 Hearsay evidence in detention order proceedings

 

(1)    

Evidence must not be excluded in detention order proceedings on the

 

ground that it is hearsay (of whatever degree).

 

(2)    

Articles 4 and 5 of the Civil Evidence (Northern Ireland) Order 1997

 

apply in relation to detention order proceedings as those articles apply in

 

relation to civil proceedings.

 

(3)    

Detention order proceedings are proceedings—

 

(a)    

for an order under section 195M;

 

(b)    

for the discharge or variation of such an order;

 

(c)    

on an appeal under section 195O.

 

(4)    

Hearsay is a statement which is made otherwise than by a person while

 

giving oral evidence in the proceedings and which is tendered as

 

evidence of the matters stated.

 

(5)    

Nothing in this section affects the admissibility of evidence which is

 

admissible apart from this section.’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee: 24 February 2009                  

256

 

Policing and Crime Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

211

 

Clause  38,  page  51,  line  39,  leave out subsection (3) and insert—

 

‘(3)    

Omit section 194 (seizure).’.

 


 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

266

 

Clause  39,  page  52,  line  26,  leave out from ‘property’ to end of line 28.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

267

 

Clause  39,  page  52,  line  30,  at end insert—

 

‘67AA

 Costs of storage and realisation

 

(1)    

This section applies if a magistrates’ court makes an order under

 

section 67A.

 

(2)    

The court may determine an amount which may be recovered by the

 

appropriate officer in respect of reasonable costs incurred in—

 

(a)    

storing or insuring the property since it was seized or produced

 

as mentioned in subsection (1) of that section;

 

(b)    

realising the property.

 

(3)    

If the court makes a determination under this section the appropriate

 

officer is entitled to payment of the amount under section 55(4).

 

(4)    

A determination under this section may be made on the same occasion as

 

the section 67A order or on any later occasion; and more than one

 

determination may be made in relation to any case.

 

(5)    

In this section “appropriate officer” has the same meaning as in section

 

41A.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

268

 

Clause  39,  page  52,  line  31,  leave out ‘Section 67A’ and insert ‘Sections 67A and

 

67AA’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

269

 

Clause  39,  page  52,  line  36,  at end insert—

 

‘“(3A)    

An appropriate officer may appeal to the Crown Court against—

 

(a)    

a determination made by a magistrates’ court under section

 

67AA;

 

(b)    

a decision by a magistrates’ court not to make a determination

 

under that section.”’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

270

 

Clause  39,  page  52,  line  38,  at end insert—


 
 

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‘67C  

Proceeds of realisation

 

(1)    

This section applies to sums which—

 

(a)    

are in the hands of an appropriate officer, and

 

(b)    

are the proceeds of the realisation of property under section 67A.

 

(2)    

The sums must be applied as follows—

 

(a)    

first, they must be applied in making any payments directed by

 

the magistrates’ court or the Crown Court;

 

(b)    

second, they must be paid to the appropriate designated officer

 

on account of the amount payable under the confiscation order.

 

(3)    

If the amount payable under the confiscation order has been fully paid

 

and any sums remain in the appropriate officer’s hands, the appropriate

 

officer must distribute them—

 

(a)    

among such persons who held (or hold) interests in the property

 

represented by the proceeds as the magistrates’ court or the

 

Crown Court directs, and

 

(b)    

in such proportions as it directs.

 

(4)    

Before making a direction under subsection (3) the court must give

 

persons who held (or hold) interests in the property a reasonable

 

opportunity to make representations to it.

 

(5)    

If the magistrates’ court has made a direction under either of subsection

 

(2)(a) or (3) in respect of the proceeds of realisation of any property, the

 

Crown Court may not make a direction under either of those provisions

 

in respect of the proceeds of realisation of that property; and vice versa.

 

(6)    

In this section—

 

“appropriate officer” has the same meaning as in section 41A;

 

“appropriate designated officer” means the designated officer for the

 

magistrates’ court which, by virtue of section 35, is responsible for

 

enforcing the confiscation order as if it were a fine.”’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

271

 

Clause  39,  page  52,  line  41,  leave out subsection (4).

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

272

 

Clause  39,  page  53,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘(5)    

In section 55(4) (payment of sums received by designated officer under

 

section 54)—

 

(a)    

after “section 54” insert “or 67C”,

 

(b)    

in paragraph (b) for “the receiver” substitute “any receiver”, and

 

(c)    

after paragraph (b) insert—

 

“(c)    

third, in payment to an appropriate officer of any amount

 

to which the officer is entitled by virtue of

 

section 67AA.”’.

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee: 24 February 2009                  

258

 

Policing and Crime Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

273

 

Clause  40,  page  53,  line  33,  leave out from ‘property’ to end of line 35.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

274

 

Clause  40,  page  53,  line  37,  at end insert—

 

‘131AA 

 Costs of storage and realisation

 

(1)    

This section applies if the sheriff makes an order under section 131A.

 

(2)    

The sheriff may determine an amount which may be recovered by the

 

appropriate officer in respect of reasonable costs incurred in—

 

(a)    

storing or insuring the property since it was seized or produced

 

as mentioned in subsection (1) of that section;

 

(b)    

realising the property.

 

(3)    

If the sheriff makes a determination under this section the appropriate

 

officer is entitled to payment of the amount under section 131(5A).

 

(4)    

A determination under this section may be made on the same occasion as

 

the section 131A order or on any later occasion; and more than one

 

determination may be made in relation to any case.

 

(5)    

In this section “appropriate officer” has the same meaning as in

 

section 120A.’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

275

 

Clause  40,  page  53,  line  38,  leave out ‘Section 131A’ and insert ‘Sections 131A

 

and 131AA’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

276

 

Clause  40,  page  53,  line  43,  at end insert—

 

‘“(3A)    

An appropriate officer may appeal to the Court of Session against—

 

(a)    

a determination made by a sheriff under section 131AA;

 

(b)    

a decision by a sheriff not to make a determination under that

 

section.”’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

277

 

Clause  40,  page  54,  line  2,  leave out ‘30’ and insert ‘21’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

278

 

Clause  40,  page  54,  leave out line 5 and insert—

 

‘(a)    

confirm, quash or vary the decision or (as the case may be) the

 

order, or’.

 

Mr Vernon Coaker

 

279

 

Clause  40,  page  54,  line  8,  at end insert—


 
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