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Bridget Prentice

285

Clause  82,  page  47,  leave out lines 14 to 17 and insert—

‘(6)	For the purposes of subsection (5) an offence is a relevant offence if it is an

offence described in Schedule 1A.

(7)	The Secretary of State may by order amend Schedule 1A.’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

462

Clause  82,  page  47,  leave out lines 16 and 17.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

407

Page  47,  line  4,  leave out Clause 82.

Bridget Prentice

286

Schedule  12,  page  146,  line  40,  at end insert—

‘Murder and manslaughter

A1	Murder in a case where it is alleged that a firearm or knife was used to cause

the death in question.

B1	Manslaughter in a case where it is alleged that a firearm or knife was used to

cause the death in question.

C1	Murder or manslaughter in a case (other than a case falling within paragraph

A1 or B1) where it is alleged that—

(a)	the accused was carrying a firearm or knife at any time during the

commission of the offence, and

(b)	a person other than the accused knew or believed at any time during

the commission of the offence that the accused was carrying a firearm

or knife.

Offences against the Person Act 1861 (c. 100)

D1	An offence under section 18 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861

(wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm etc) in a case where it is

alleged that a firearm or knife was used to cause the wound or harm in

question.

E1	An offence under section 20 of that Act (malicious wounding) in a case where

it is alleged that a firearm or knife was used to cause the wound or inflict the

harm in question.

F1	An offence under section 38 of that Act (assault with intent to resist arrest) in

a case where it is alleged that a firearm or knife was used to carry out the

assault in question.

G1	An offence under section 47 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861

(assault occasioning actual bodily harm) in a case where it is alleged that a

firearm or knife was used to inflict the harm in question.

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H1	An offence under section 18, 20, 38 or 47 of the Offences against the Person

Act 1861 in a case (other than a case falling within any of paragraphs D1 to

G1) where it is alleged that—

(a)	the accused was carrying a firearm or knife at any time during the

commission of the offence, and

(b)	a person other than the accused knew or believed at any time during

the commission of the offence that the accused was carrying a firearm

or knife.’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

203

Schedule  12,  page  148,  line  2,  at end insert—

‘Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (c.100)

21A	An offence under section 18 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861

(grievious bodily harm with intent).’.

Bridget Prentice

287

Schedule  12,  page  148,  line  3,  at end insert—

‘21A	A reference in any of paragraphs A1 to H1 to an offence (“offence A”)

includes—

(a)	a reference to an attempt to commit offence A in a case where it is

alleged that it was attempted to commit offence A in the manner or

circumstances described in that paragraph,

(b)	a reference to a conspiracy to commit offence A in a case where it is

alleged that the conspiracy was to commit offence A in the manner or

circumstances described in that paragraph,

(c)	a reference to an offence under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007

in relation to which offence A is the offence (or one of the offences)

which the person intended or believed would be committed in a case

where it is alleged that the person intended or believed offence A

would be committed in the manner or circumstances described in that

paragraph, and

(d)	a reference to aiding, abetting, counselling or procuring the

commission of offence A in a case where it is alleged that offence A

was committed, or the act or omission charged in respect of offence A

was done or made, in the manner or circumstances described in that

paragraph.’.

Bridget Prentice

288

Schedule  12,  page  148,  line  4,  leave out ‘this Schedule’ insert ‘any of paragraphs 1

to 21’.

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Bridget Prentice

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Schedule  12,  page  148,  line  12,  at end insert—

‘Interpretation

In this Schedule—

“firearm” has the meaning given by section 57 of the Firearms Act 1968;

“knife” has the meaning given by section 10 of the Knives Act 1997.” ’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

409

Clause  83,  page  47,  line  31,  leave out from ‘(ba)’ to first ‘the’ in line 33.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

208

Clause  83,  page  47,  line  33,  after ‘part,’, insert ‘and the court is satisfied that the

witness’s wish is based on informed consent or a real understanding of its consequences,’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

410

Clause  83,  page  48,  leave out lines 3 to 7.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

209

Clause  83,  page  48,  line  16,  leave out ‘take into account’ and insert ‘be satisfied

about’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

411

Clause  83,  page  48,  line  18,  at end insert—

‘( )	where a defendant is under the age of 18, the age and maturity of that

defendant;’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

210

Clause  83,  page  48,  line  24,  after ‘witness’s’, insert ‘sex,’.

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Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

408

Page  47,  line  21,  leave out Clause 83.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

211

Clause  84,  page  48,  leave out line 44.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

212

Clause  85,  page  49,  line  44,  at end insert—

‘(1C)

Particulars of the specified person’s name, age, sex, qualifications and

relationship, if any, to the witness must be provided to the court and to all other

parties to the proceedings by the party calling the witness.’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

213

Clause  85,  page  49,  line  44,  at end insert—

‘(1D)

The specified person must not give evidence on his own account.’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

214

Clause  86,  page  50,  line  10,  after ‘court’, insert ‘and without the party calling that

witness giving such notice to the other parties in the proceedings as the court may direct’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

464

Clause  87,  page  50,  line  24,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

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David Howarth

Jenny Willott

465

Clause  87,  page  50,  line  27,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

466

Clause  87,  page  50,  line  30,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

467

Clause  87,  page  50,  line  33,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

448

Clause  87,  page  50,  line  33,  at end insert—

‘(2A)

The court may give a direction under subsection (3) if, and only if, it has made a

determination that the defendant is fit to plead.’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

468

Clause  87,  page  50,  line  35,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

469

Clause  87,  page  50,  line  39,  leave out from first ‘the’ to end and insert ‘defendant,

questions put to the defendant, and’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

470

Clause  87,  page  50,  line  41,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

471

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  2,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

215

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  2,  at end insert ‘, but not to give evidence on his own

account.’.

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David Howarth

Jenny Willott

472

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  3,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

473

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  4,  leave out ‘accused’s’ and insert ‘defendant’s’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

474

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  6,  leave out ‘accused’s’ and insert ‘defendant’s’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

475

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  7,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

476

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  9,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

216

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  10,  leave out ‘Act 1983’ and insert ‘Acts 1983 or 2007 as

appropriate’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

485

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  11,  leave out first ‘and’ and insert ‘or’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

477

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  12,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

217

Clause  87,  page  51,  leave out lines 14 to 27.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

478

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  15,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

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David Howarth

Jenny Willott

479

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  21,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

480

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  23,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

481

Clause  87,  page  51,  leave out line 25 and insert ‘defendant is able to see and hear the

examination of the defendant.’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

482

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  43,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

483

Clause  87,  page  51,  line  45,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

484

Clause  87,  page  52,  line  2,  leave out ‘accused’ and insert ‘defendant’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

412

Page  50,  line  22,  leave out Clause 87.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

Mr James Gray

86

Clause  89,  page  52,  line  22,  at end insert—

‘(1A)

In section 57A (live links: introductory) after subsection (2) insert—

“(2A)

A live link direction shall not be given in the absence of the accused’s

consent unless the court is satisfied that he or his legal representative has

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Revised 5 March 2009