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Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

446

Clause  71,  page  42,  line  19,  leave out paragraph (b).

David Howarth

Jenny Willott

454

Clause  71,  page  42,  line  21,  leave out subsection (6).

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

199

Clause  71,  page  42,  line  22,  leave out ‘(in particular)’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

384

Clause  72,  page  42,  line  33,  after ‘proceedings’, insert ‘or a party appearing at an

inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

385

Clause  72,  page  42,  line  39,  after ‘defendant’, insert ‘or resolving the issues in the

inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

386

Clause  72,  page  43,  line  1,  after ‘case’, insert ‘or inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

387

Clause  72,  page  43,  line  4,  after ‘defendant’, insert ‘, or the witness and any party

appearing at the inquest or any associates of any party appearing at the inquest’.

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Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

388

Clause  72,  page  43,  line  9,  after ‘indictment’, insert ‘or at an inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

389

Clause  73,  page  43,  line  12,  after second ‘judge’, insert ‘or coroner’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

390

Clause  73,  page  43,  line  14,  after ‘defendant’, insert ‘or a party appearing at the

inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

391

Clause  74,  page  43,  line  18,  after ‘proceedings’, insert ‘or inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

392

Clause  74,  page  43,  line  31,  after second ‘proceedings’, insert ‘or party appearing

at the inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

393

Clause  75,  page  43,  line  41,  after first ‘proceedings’, insert ‘or at an inquest’.

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Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

394

Clause  75,  page  44,  line  18,  after ‘defendant’, insert ‘or a party appearing’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

395

Clause  76,  page  44,  line  28,  after second ‘proceedings”)’, insert ‘or an inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

396

Clause  76,  page  44,  line  33,  at end insert ‘or

(c)	the verdict or any finding of fact or law by the coroner or inquest jury, as

the case may be, is reviewed by the appeal court.’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

397

Clause  76,  page  44,  line  41,  after ‘proceedings’, insert ‘or appearing at the inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

398

Clause  76,  page  45,  line  3,  after ‘proceedings’, insert ‘or a party appearing at the

inquest’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

399

Clause  76,  page  45,  line  7,  at end insert —

‘(za)

the High Court (Queen’s Bench Division),’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

200

Clause  76,  page  45,  line  10,  at end add ‘, or

(d)	The Judicial Committee of the House of Lords and the Supreme Court.’.

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David Howarth

Jenny Willott

449

Clause  80,  page  45,  line  34,  leave out ‘a magistrates’ court’ and insert ‘a Youth

Court where the case is one in which, were the defendant an adult, the defendant would

have been tried in the Crown Court,’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

374

Clause  80,  page  45,  line  34,  after ‘court,’, insert ‘a coroner’s court,’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

201

Clause  80,  page  45,  line  35,  after ‘Appeal’, insert ‘except where the Crown court is

specified as the appropriate court,’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

375

Clause  80,  page  45,  line  35,  after first ‘Court’, insert ‘the High Court’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

376

Clause  80,  page  46,  line  1,  after ‘court,’, insert ‘a coroner’s court,’.

Bridget Prentice

285

Clause  82,  page  47,  leave out lines 14 to 17 and insert—

‘(6)	For the purposes of subsection (5) an offence is a relevant offence if it is an

offence described in Schedule 1A.

(7)	The Secretary of State may by order amend Schedule 1A.’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

407

Page  47,  line  4,  leave out Clause 82.

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Bridget Prentice

286

Schedule  12,  page  146,  line  40,  at end insert—

‘Murder and manslaughter

A1	Murder in a case where it is alleged that a firearm or knife was used to cause

the death in question.

B1	Manslaughter in a case where it is alleged that a firearm or knife was used to

cause the death in question.

C1	Murder or manslaughter in a case (other than a case falling within paragraph

A1 or B1) where it is alleged that—

(a)	the accused was carrying a firearm or knife at any time during the

commission of the offence, and

(b)	a person other than the accused knew or believed at any time during

the commission of the offence that the accused was carrying a firearm

or knife.

Offences against the Person Act 1861 (c. 100)

D1	An offence under section 18 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861

(wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm etc) in a case where it is

alleged that a firearm or knife was used to cause the wound or harm in

question.

E1	An offence under section 20 of that Act (malicious wounding) in a case where

it is alleged that a firearm or knife was used to cause the wound or inflict the

harm in question.

F1	An offence under section 38 of that Act (assault with intent to resist arrest) in

a case where it is alleged that a firearm or knife was used to carry out the

assault in question.

G1	An offence under section 47 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861

(assault occasioning actual bodily harm) in a case where it is alleged that a

firearm or knife was used to inflict the harm in question.

H1	An offence under section 18, 20, 38 or 47 of the Offences against the Person

Act 1861 in a case (other than a case falling within any of paragraphs D1 to

G1) where it is alleged that—

(a)	the accused was carrying a firearm or knife at any time during the

commission of the offence, and

(b)	a person other than the accused knew or believed at any time during

the commission of the offence that the accused was carrying a firearm

or knife.’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

203

Schedule  12,  page  148,  line  2,  at end insert—

‘Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (c.100)

21A	An offence under section 18 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861

(grievious bodily harm with intent).’.

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Bridget Prentice

287

Schedule  12,  page  148,  line  3,  at end insert—

‘21A	A reference in any of paragraphs A1 to H1 to an offence (“offence A”)

includes—

(a)	a reference to an attempt to commit offence A in a case where it is

alleged that it was attempted to commit offence A in the manner or

circumstances described in that paragraph,

(b)	a reference to a conspiracy to commit offence A in a case where it is

alleged that the conspiracy was to commit offence A in the manner or

circumstances described in that paragraph,

(c)	a reference to an offence under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007

in relation to which offence A is the offence (or one of the offences)

which the person intended or believed would be committed in a case

where it is alleged that the person intended or believed offence A

would be committed in the manner or circumstances described in that

paragraph, and

(d)	a reference to aiding, abetting, counselling or procuring the

commission of offence A in a case where it is alleged that offence A

was committed, or the act or omission charged in respect of offence A

was done or made, in the manner or circumstances described in that

paragraph.’.

Bridget Prentice

288

Schedule  12,  page  148,  line  4,  leave out ‘this Schedule’ insert ‘any of paragraphs 1

to 21’.

Bridget Prentice

289

Schedule  12,  page  148,  line  12,  at end insert—

‘Interpretation

In this Schedule—

“firearm” has the meaning given by section 57 of the Firearms Act 1968;

“knife” has the meaning given by section 10 of the Knives Act 1997.” ’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

409

Clause  83,  page  47,  line  31,  leave out from ‘(ba)’ to first ‘the’ in line 33.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

208

Clause  83,  page  47,  line  33,  after ‘part,’, insert ‘and the court is satisfied that the

witness’s wish is based on informed consent or a real understanding of its consequences,’.

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Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

410

Clause  83,  page  48,  leave out lines 3 to 7.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

209

Clause  83,  page  48,  line  16,  leave out ‘take into account’ and insert ‘be satisfied

about’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

411

Clause  83,  page  48,  line  18,  at end insert—

‘( )	where a defendant is under the age of 18, the age and maturity of that

defendant;’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

210

Clause  83,  page  48,  line  24,  after ‘witness’s’, insert ‘sex,’.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

408

Page  47,  line  21,  leave out Clause 83.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

211

Clause  84,  page  48,  leave out line 44.

Mr Edward Garnier

Mr Henry Bellingham

Jeremy Wright

212

Clause  85,  page  49,  line  44,  at end insert—

‘(1C)

Particulars of the specified person’s name, age, sex, qualifications and

relationship, if any, to the witness must be provided to the court and to all other

parties to the proceedings by the party calling the witness.’.

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Revised 26 February 2009