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Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Jeremy Wright

 

Not called  241

 

Page  70,  line  17,  leave out Clause 117.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Jeremy Wright

 

Not called  242

 

Page  70,  line  21,  leave out Clause 118.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 119 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Jeremy Wright

 

Withdrawn  455

 

Schedule  14,  page  151,  line  36,  at end insert—

 

  ‘(4A)  

But the court must not, save where the interests of justice indicate otherwise,

 

sentence a person to be disqualified for an extension period unless it has

 

considered the effect that any such disqualification will, or is likely to, have in

 

all the circumstances of the case on that person’s prospects of rehabilitation,

 

employment, finding accommodation and not re-offending after the

 

completion of the custodial part of the sentence.’.

 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Jeremy Wright

 

Not called  456

 

Schedule  14,  page  153,  line  4,  at end insert—

 

  ‘(4A)  

But the court must not, save where the interests of justice indicate otherwise,

 

sentence a person to be disqualified for an extension period unless it has

 

considered the effect that any such disqualification will, or is likely to, have in

 

all the circumstances of the case on that person’s prospects of rehabilitation,

 

employment, finding accommodation and not re-offending after the

 

completion of the custodial part of the sentence.’.


 
 

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Jenny Willott

 

Withdrawn  492

 

Schedule  14,  page  153,  line  37,  at end insert—

 

‘(4)    

After section 35B (as inserted by sub-paragraph (3)) insert—

 

“35C  

Extension of disqualification of person already disqualified

 

(1)    

This section applies where a person—

 

(a)    

is convicted in England and Wales of an offence for which the

 

court orders the person to be disqualified under section 34 or 35,

 

and

 

(b)    

is still subject to a period of disqualification which was

 

previously imposed and is still being served.

 

(2)    

The order under section 34 or 35 may provide for the person to be

 

disqualified for the appropriate extension period, in addition to the

 

discretionary disqualification period.

 

(3)    

The discretionary disqualification period is the period for which, in the

 

absence of this section, the court would have disqualified the person

 

under section 34 or 35.

 

(4)    

The appropriate extension period is the period of disqualification

 

previously ordered under section 34 or 35, and still being served, less any

 

period already served.”.’.

 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Jeremy Wright

 

Not called  457

 

Schedule  14,  page  154,  line  16,  at end insert—

 

  ‘(4A)  

But the court must not, save where the interests of justice indicate otherwise,

 

sentence a person to be disqualified for an extension period unless it has

 

considered the effect that any such disqualification will, or is likely to, have in

 

all the circumstances of the case on that person’s prospects of rehabilitation,

 

employment, finding accommodation and not re-offending after the

 

completion of the custodial part of the sentence.’.

 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Jeremy Wright

 

Not called  458

 

Schedule  14,  page  156,  line  3,  at end insert—

 

  ‘(4A)  

But the court must not, save where the interests of justice indicate otherwise,

 

sentence a person to be disqualified for an extension period unless it has

 

considered the effect that any such disqualification will, or is likely to, have in

 

all the circumstances of the case on that person’s prospects of rehabilitation,

 

employment, finding accommodation and not re-offending after the

 

completion of the custodial part of the sentence.’.

 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Jeremy Wright

 

Not called  459

 

Schedule  14,  page  157,  line  44,  at end insert—


 
 

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  ‘(4A)  

But the court must not, save where the interests of justice indicate otherwise,

 

sentence a person to be disqualified for an extension period unless it has

 

considered the effect that any such disqualification will, or is likely to, have in

 

all the circumstances of the case on that person’s prospects of rehabilitation,

 

employment, finding accommodation and not re-offending after the

 

completion of the custodial part of the sentence.’.

 

Mr Edward Garnier

 

Mr Henry Bellingham

 

Jeremy Wright

 

Not called  460

 

Schedule  14,  page  159,  line  36,  at end insert—

 

  ‘(4A)  

But the court must not, save where the interests of justice indicate otherwise,

 

sentence a person to be disqualified for an extension period unless it has

 

considered the effect that any such disqualification will, or is likely to, have in

 

all the circumstances of the case on that person’s prospects of rehabilitation,

 

employment, finding accommodation and not re-offending after the

 

completion of the custodial part of the sentence.’.

 

Schedule Agreed to.

 

Clauses 120 and 121 Agreed to.

 


 

Alun Michael

 

David Howarth

 

Withdrawn  156

 

Clause  122,  page  73,  leave out line 35.

 

Alun Michael

 

David Howarth

 

Not called  163

 

Clause  122,  page  73,  leave out line 36.

 

Alun Michael

 

David Howarth

 

Not called  157

 

Clause  122,  page  74,  line  3,  at end insert ‘who shall lay a copy of the report before

 

Parliament.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clauses 123 and 124 Agreed to.

 


 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  300

 

Schedule  15,  page  160,  line  38,  at end insert—

 

‘(9)    

For the purposes of subsection (10) “foreign service offence” means an offence

 

which—


 
 

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(a)    

was the subject of proceedings under the service law of a country outside

 

the United Kingdom, and

 

(b)    

would constitute an offence under the law of England and Wales or a

 

service offence (“the corresponding domestic offence”) if it were done in

 

England and Wales by a member of Her Majesty’s forces at the time of

 

the trial for the offence with which the defendant is now charged (“the

 

current offence”).

 

(10)    

Where a defendant has been found guilty of a foreign service offence (“the

 

previous service offence”), for the purposes of subsection (2)—

 

(a)    

the previous service offence is an offence of the same description as the

 

current offence if the corresponding domestic offence is of that same

 

description, as set out in subsection (4)(a);

 

(b)    

the previous service offence is an offence of the same category as the

 

current offence if the current offence and the corresponding domestic

 

offence belong to the same category of offences prescribed as mentioned

 

in subsection (4)(b).

 

(11)    

In this section—

 

“Her Majesty’s forces” has the same meaning as in the Armed Forces Act

 

2006;

 

“service law”, in relation to a country outside the United Kingdom, means

 

the law governing all or any of the naval, military or air forces of that

 

country.”’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  301

 

Schedule  15,  page  163,  line  6,  leave out ‘have constituted’ and insert ‘constitute’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  302

 

Schedule  15,  page  163,  line  7,  leave out ‘had been’ and insert ‘were’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  303

 

Schedule  15,  page  163,  line  18,  leave out ‘have constituted’ and insert ‘constitute’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  304

 

Schedule  15,  page  163,  line  19,  leave out ‘had been’ and insert ‘were’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  305

 

Schedule  15,  page  163,  line  26,  leave out ‘or’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  306

 

Schedule  15,  page  163,  line  26,  at end insert—

 

‘(b)    

after paragraph (b) insert “or

 

(c)    

a finding of guilt in respect of a member State service

 

offence.”’.


 
 

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Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  307

 

Schedule  15,  page  163,  leave out lines 36 to 39 and insert—

 

‘(6)    

For the purposes of this section—

 

(a)    

an offence is “relevant” if the offence would constitute an offence under

 

the law of any part of the United Kingdom if it were done in that part at

 

the time of the conviction of the defendant for the current offence,

 

(b)    

“member State service offence” means an offence which—

 

(i)    

was the subject of proceedings under the service law of a

 

member State other than the United Kingdom, and

 

(ii)    

would constitute an offence under the law of any part of the

 

United Kingdom, or a service offence (within the meaning of the

 

Armed Forces Act 2006), if it were done in any part of the United

 

Kingdom, by a member of Her Majesty’s forces, at the time of

 

the conviction of the defendant for the current offence,

 

(c)    

“Her Majesty’s forces” has the same meaning as in the Armed Forces Act

 

2006, and

 

(d)    

“service law”, in relation to a member State other than the United

 

Kingdom, means the law governing all or any of the naval, military or air

 

forces of that State.”’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  308

 

Schedule  15,  page  164,  line  1,  leave out ‘“, or’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  309

 

Schedule  15,  page  164,  line  4,  at end insert ‘, or

 

(d)    

a finding of guilt in respect of a member State service offence.”’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  310

 

Schedule  15,  page  164,  line  7,  leave out ‘Isles or’ and insert ‘Islands and’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  311

 

Schedule  15,  page  164,  line  11,  at end insert ‘or a member State service offence’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  312

 

Schedule  15,  page  164,  leave out lines 14 to 17 and insert—

 

‘(5)    

For the purposes of this section—

 

(a)    

an offence is “relevant” if the offence would constitute an offence under

 

the law of any part of the United Kingdom if it were done in that part at

 

the time of the conviction in respect of the current offence,

 

(b)    

“member State service offence” means an offence which—

 

(i)    

was the subject of proceedings under the service law of a

 

member State other than the United Kingdom, and

 

(ii)    

would constitute an offence under the law of any part of the

 

United Kingdom, or a service offence, if it were done in any part

 

of the United Kingdom, by a member of Her Majesty’s forces, at


 
 

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the time of the conviction of the defendant for the current

 

offence, and

 

(c)    

“service law”, in relation to a member State other than the United

 

Kingdom, means the law governing all or any of the naval, military or air

 

forces of that State.”’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  313

 

Schedule  15,  page  165,  line  3,  leave out ‘have constituted’ and insert ‘constitute’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  314

 

Schedule  15,  page  165,  line  4,  leave out ‘had been’ and insert ‘were’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  315

 

Schedule  15,  page  165,  line  5,  leave out ‘trial’ and insert ‘conviction’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  316

 

Schedule  15,  page  165,  line  5,  at end insert—

 

      ‘()  

In subsection (8) (as inserted by Schedule 16 to the Armed Forces Act 2006

 

(c. 52))—

 

(a)    

in paragraph (a) for the words “within the meaning of the Armed

 

Forces Act 2006; and”, substitute “or a member State service

 

offence;”,

 

(b)    

in paragraph (b) for “service disciplinary proceedings” substitute

 

“proceedings in respect of a service offence”, and

 

(c)    

after that paragraph insert—

 

“(c)    

“member State service offence” means an offence

 

which—

 

(i)    

was the subject of proceedings under the

 

service law of a member State other than the

 

United Kingdom,

 

(ii)    

would constitute an offence under the law of

 

any part of the United Kingdom, or a service

 

offence, if it were done in any part of the

 

United Kingdom, by a member of Her

 

Majesty’s forces, at the time of the conviction

 

of the defendant for the current offence;

 

(d)    

“Her Majesty’s forces” has the same meaning as in

 

the Armed Forces Act 2006;

 

(e)    

“service law”, in relation to a member State other than

 

the United Kingdom, means the law governing all or

 

any of the naval, military or air forces of that State;

 

(f)    

“service offence” has the same meaning as in the

 

Armed Forces Act 2006.”’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  317

 

Schedule  15,  page  165,  line  5,  at end insert—


 
 

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‘8A(1)  

Section 270B of the Armed Forces Act 2006 (c. 52) (community punishment

 

for offender previously fined) is amended as follows.

 

      (2)  

In subsection (6) omit “or” at the end of paragraph (a) and insert—

 

“(aa)    

a conviction by a court in any member State other than the

 

United Kingdom of a relevant offence; or”.

 

      (3)  

In subsection (10)—

 

(a)    

in paragraph (a) after “offence” insert “or a member State service

 

offence”;

 

(b)    

in paragraph (b) for “such proceedings” substitute “proceedings in

 

respect of a service offence”;

 

(c)    

after that paragraph insert—

 

“(c)    

“relevant offence” means an offence that would

 

constitute an offence under the law of any part of the

 

United Kingdom if it were done in that part at the time

 

of the conviction of the defendant for the current

 

offence;

 

(d)    

“member State service offence” means an offence

 

which—

 

(i)    

was the subject of proceedings under the

 

service law of a member State other than the

 

United Kingdom, and

 

(ii)    

would constitute an offence under the law of

 

any part of the United Kingdom, or a service

 

offence, if it were done in any part of the

 

United Kingdom, by a member of Her

 

Majesty’s forces, at the time of the conviction

 

of the defendant for the current offence;

 

(e)    

“the service law of a member State other than the

 

United Kingdom” means the law governing all or any

 

of the naval, military or air forces of that State.”’.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  318

 

Schedule  15,  page  167,  leave out lines 12 and 13 and insert—

 

‘“corresponding drug trafficking offence” means an offence within section

 

110(2A)(a)(ii);”.

 

Bridget Prentice

 

Agreed to  319

 

Schedule  15,  page  167,  line  15,  at end insert—

 

      ‘()  

In section 114 (offences under service law) (as substituted by Schedule 16 to

 

the Armed Forces Act 2006 (c. 52))—

 

(a)    

after subsection (1) insert—

 

“(1A)    

Where—

 

(a)    

a person has at any time been found guilty of a member State

 

service offence, and

 

(b)    

the corresponding UK offence was a class A drug trafficking

 

offence or a domestic burglary,

 

    

the relevant section of this Chapter and subsection (1) above shall have

 

effect as if the person had at that time been convicted in England and

 

Wales of that corresponding UK offence.


 
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