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House of Commons

Tuesday 17 March 2009

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill

[Ninth and Tenth sittings]

Schedule 1 Agreed to.

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Withdrawn  250

Clause  40,  page  23,  leave out lines 21 to 26 and insert—

‘(1)
A local education authority in England must secure the provision of proper

facilities for education and training (as defined by subsection 2) suitable to the

requirements of persons in their area—

(a)
who are above compulsory school age and under 19, and

(b)
who are aged over 19 or over but under 25 and subject to learning

difficulty assessment.

(2)
Facilities are proper if they are—

(a)
of a quality sufficient to meet the reasonable needs of individuals, and

(b)
of a quality adequate to meet those needs.’.

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Not called  251

Clause  40,  page  23,  line  22,  leave out ‘reasonable’.

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Not called  252

Clause  40,  page  23,  line  31,  leave out ‘to meet persons’ reasonable needs’ and

insert ‘to the requirements of persons in their area.’.

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Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Not called  253

Clause  40,  page  23,  line  31,  leave out ‘reasonable’.

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Withdrawn  4

Clause  40,  page  23,  line  37,  at end insert—

‘(e)
barriers to their participation, including caring for a child or a sick family

member, being homeless, experiencing mental health problems or being

a young offender.’.

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Not called  257

Clause  40,  page  23,  line  37,  at end insert—

‘( )
the opportunities for inclusion for learners, taking account of their needs and

wishes.’.

Mrs Sharon Hodgson

Withdrawn  285

Clause  40,  page  24,  line  8,  leave out from ‘resources’ to end of line 10.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Negatived on division  260

Clause  40,  page  24,  line  10,  at end insert—

‘(f)
ensure that all sixth form provision offers, as a minimum, A level courses

in English, mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, history, geography

and at least two modern foreign languages.’.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Not called  261

Clause  40,  page  24,  line  10,  at end insert—

‘(4A)
In performing the duty imposed by subsection (4)(a) a local authority is required

to fund sixth form provision of—

(a)
an existing academy without a sixth form which intends to establish a

sixth form; or

(b)
a new academy with a sixth form.’.

Mrs Sharon Hodgson

Not called  286

Clause  40,  page  24,  line  11,  leave out subsection (5).

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Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Negatived on division  213

Clause  40,  page  24,  line  16,  leave out from ‘(1)’ to end of line 19 and insert ‘defer

to the Chief Executive of Skills Funding.’.

Jim Knight

Mr Siôn Simon

Agreed to  264

Clause  40,  page  24,  leave out lines 31 to 37.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Mrs Sharon Hodgson

Not called  231

Clause  40,  page  24,  line  37,  at end insert—

‘(9A)
Every local education authority shall record the number of learners with learning

difficulties in its area for whom suitable education has not been provided and

report this information annually to the Secretary of State, who may require any

local education authority to provide information on the measures it is taking, if

any, to ensure that the number of learners in this situation reduces over time.’.

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Not called  112

Clause  40,  page  24,  line  44,  leave out subsection (b).

Jim Knight

Mr Siôn Simon

Agreed to  265

Clause  40,  page  25,  leave out lines 1 to 3.

Jim Knight

Mr Siôn Simon

Agreed to  266

Clause  40,  page  25,  line  12,  leave out from ‘order’ to end of line 13.

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Withdrawn  118

Clause  40,  page  25,  line  15,  after ‘other’, insert ‘, further education colleges, sixth

form colleges, schools with sixth forms and academies with sixth forms,’.

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Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Not called  119

Clause  40,  page  25,  line  16,  at end add—

‘( )
The Secretary of State must specifiy areas into which England is to be divided for

the purposes of section 15ZA, and must publish any specification or revised

specification under this section.’.

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Not called  215

Clause  41,  page  25,  line  30,  leave out subsections (a) and (b) and insert ‘a contract

of employment other than an apprenticeship agreement with which training is provided.’.

Clause Agreed to.

Clause 42 Agreed to.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Withdrawn  216

Clause  43,  page  26,  line  18,  leave out ‘A local education authority’ and insert ‘The

Young People’s Learning Agency’.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Not called  217

Clause  43,  page  26,  line  24,  leave out subsection (3).

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Not called  218

Clause  43,  page  26,  line  32,  leave out ‘a local education authority in England’ and

insert ‘the Young People’s Learning Agency’.

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Mr Nick Gibb

Mrs Maria Miller

Mr John Hayes

Bill Wiggin

Not selected  137

Page  26,  line  10,  leave out Clause 43.

Clause Agreed to.

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Withdrawn  254

Clause  44,  page  27,  line  14,  leave out ‘that an authority decide’.

Jim Knight

Mr Siôn Simon

Agreed to  267

Clause  44,  page  27,  line  38,  at end insert—

‘( )
The references in subsections (1) and (2) to persons in a local education

authority’s area who are over compulsory school age but under 19 do not include

persons who are subject to a detention order.’.

Mr David Laws

Stephen Williams

Annette Brooke

Not called  255

Clause  44,  page  27,  line  38,  at end insert—

‘(9)
Provision is not be considered as giving rise to disproportionate expenditure only

because that provision is more expensive than comparable provision.’.

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

Jim Knight

Mr Siôn Simon

Agreed to  268

Clause  45,  page  29,  leave out lines 6 to 8.

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

Jim Knight

Mr Siôn Simon

Agreed to  269

Clause  46,  page  29,  leave out lines 25 to 27.

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Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mrs Maria Miller

Mr John Hayes

Bill Wiggin

Negatived on division  127

Clause  47,  page  29,  line  32,  leave out ‘A local education authority’ and insert ‘The

Young People’s Learning Agency’.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Not called  378

Clause  47,  page  29,  line  32,  leave out ‘education’.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Negatived on division  99

Clause  47,  page  29,  line  38,  at end insert—

‘(1A)
In deciding for the purposes of subsection (1) whether education or training is

enough to meet persons’ reasonable needs, a minimum of 30 hours per week of

education and skills training must be provided.’.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mrs Maria Miller

Mr John Hayes

Bill Wiggin

Not called  128

Clause  47,  page  30,  line  2,  leave out ‘a local education authority’ and insert ‘the

Young People’s Learning Agency’.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mr John Hayes

Mrs Maria Miller

Bill Wiggin

Not called  212

Clause  47,  page  30,  line  5,  after ‘learning’, insert ‘or language’.

Jim Knight

Mr Siôn Simon

Agreed to  340

Clause  47,  page  30,  line  6,  at end insert—

‘(c)
the desirability of enabling persons to complete programmes of

study or training which they have begun;

(d)
any relevant curriculum and the desirability that education

received by children subject to youth detention should be

comparable with education which they could be expected to

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receive if they were attending a school or institution

implementing a relevant curriculum;

(e)
the desirability of the core entitlement and the additional

entitlement being satisfied in relation to persons over

compulsory school age but under 19 who have elected for them.’.

Jim Knight

Mr Siôn Simon

Agreed to  341

Clause  47,  page  30,  line  6,  at end insert—

‘( )
In subsection (2)(d), “relevant curriculum” means—

(a)
in relation to a local education authority in England, the National

Curriculum for England established under section 87 of the

Education Act 2002 as subsisting for the time being;

(b)
in relation to a local education authority in Wales—

(i)
the National Curriculum for Wales established under

section 108 of that Act as subsisting for the time being,

or

(ii)
any local curriculum formed by the authority under

section 116A of the Education Act 2002 (formation of

local curricula for pupils in Key Stage 4) or for their area

under section 33A of the Learning and Skills Act 2000

(formation of local curricula for students aged 16 to 18).

( )
Sections 17B to 17D apply for the purposes of subsection (2)(e) as they

apply for the purposes of section 17A.’.

Jim Knight

Mr Siôn Simon

Agreed to  342

Clause  47,  page  30,  line  6,  at end insert—

‘( )
Any arrangements made by a local education authority under subsection

(1) for the provision by another person (the “learning provider”) of

education or training must require the learning provider, in making any

determination as to the education or training to be provided for a

particular person, to have regard to any information provided under

section 562E by the person’s home authority (within the meaning of

Chapter 5A of Part 10) for the purpose of assisting any such

determination.’.

Mr Nick Gibb

Mrs Maria Miller

Mr John Hayes

Bill Wiggin

Not called  129

Clause  47,  page  30,  line  7,  leave out ‘a local education authority’ and insert ‘the

Young People’s Learning Agency’.