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House of Commons

 
 

Thursday 29 October 2009

 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

 

Child Poverty Bill


 

[seventh and eighth Sittings]


 

Mr David Gauke

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr John Baron

 

Negatived on division  1

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  21,  at end insert ‘and the promotion of economic enterprise’.

 

Ms Karen Buck

 

Not selected  70

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  21,  at end insert ‘including financial capability’.

 

Ms Karen Buck

 

Not selected  71

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  22,  after ‘provision’, insert ‘and take up’.

 

Steve Webb

 

John Barrett

 

Withdrawn  52

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  22,  at end insert ‘and family and friends carers who take on

 

the care of a child for more than 28 days per year in the following circumstances:

 

‘(i)    

where the child comes to live with the carer as a result of plans

 

made within a section 47 Children Act 1989 child protection

 

enquiry; or

 

(ii)    

where a child comes to live with the carer following a section 37

 

Children Act 1989 investigation;

 

(iii)    

where a carer has secured a Residence Order or Special

 

Guardianship Order to avoid a child being looked after, and there

 

is professional evidence of the impairment of the parents’ ability

 

to care for the child; and/or

 

(iv)    

where the carer has a Residence Order or Special Guardianship

 

Order arising out of care proceedings; or

 

(v)    

where the carer has a Residence Order or Special Guardianship

 

Order following the accommodation of a child,’.

 

Ms Karen Buck

 

Not called  64

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  22,  at end insert ‘and family and friends carers who take on


 
 

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the care of a child for more than 28 days in the following circumstances:

 

(a)    

where the child comes to live with the carer as a result of plans made

 

within a section 47 Children Act 1989 child protection enquiry; or

 

(b)    

where a child comes to live with the carer following a section 37 Children

 

Act 1989 investigation;

 

(c)    

where a carer has secured a Residence Order or Special Guardianship

 

Order to avoid a child being looked after, and there is professional

 

evidence of the impairment of the parents’ ability to care for the child;

 

and/or

 

(d)    

where the carer has a Residence Order or Special Guardianship Order

 

arising out of care proceedings; or

 

(e)    

where the carer has a Residence Order or Special Guardianship Order

 

following the accommodation of a child.’.

 

Ms Karen Buck

 

Not called  50

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  23,  after ‘education’, insert ‘childcare’.

 

Mr David Gauke

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr John Baron

 

Not called  58

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  23,  after ‘services’, insert ‘and improving the well-being of

 

children’.

 

Steve Webb

 

John Barrett

 

Not called  30

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  24,  after ‘housing,’, insert ‘transport,’.

 

Mr David Gauke

 

Andrew Selous

 

Mr John Baron

 

Not called  2

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  25,  at end insert—

 

‘(e)    

reducing family breakdown

 

(f)    

assisting children in families with disabilities

 

(g)    

assisting children from minority ethnic backgrounds.’.

 

Ms Sally Keeble

 

Not called  20

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  25,  at end insert ‘, and

 

(e)    

the criminal justice system.’.

 

Steve Webb

 

John Barrett

 

Not called  47

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  25,  at end add—

 

‘(e)    

childcare’.


 
 

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Mr Graham Stuart

 

Not called  60

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  25,  at end add—

 

‘(e)    

the development of specific policies to tackle child poverty in rural

 

areas.’.

 

Ms Sally Keeble

 

Not called  67

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  25,  at end insert ‘, and

 

(e)    

the provision of services for looked after children.’.

 

Ms Sally Keeble

 

Not called  68

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  25,  at end insert ‘, and

 

(e)    

the provision of services for children of asylum and immigration.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Ms Karen Buck

 

Withdrawn  51

 

Clause  9,  page  5,  line  16,  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

If after receiving advice from the Commission the Secretary of State lays before

 

Parliament a strategy or a revised strategy, he shall lay with the strategy or the

 

revised strategy a copy of the advice from the Commission and a statement

 

showing:

 

(a)    

the extent to which he has, in framing the strategy, given effect to the

 

advice of the Commission; and

 

(b)    

in so far as effect has not been given to the advice of the Commission, his

 

reasons why not.’.

 

Steve Webb

 

John Barrett

 

Negatived on division  56

 

Clause  9,  page  5,  line  22,  leave out ‘or’ and insert ‘and’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  33

 

Clause  10,  page  6,  line  19,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

The Scottish Ministers must, on or before each report date relating to a Scottish

 

strategy, lay before the Scottish Parliament a report which—

 

(a)    

describes the measures taken by the Scottish Ministers in accordance

 

with the Scottish strategy,

 

(b)    

describes the effect of those measures in contributing to the meeting of

 

the targets in sections 2 to 5, and


 
 

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(c)    

describes other effects of those measures that contribute to the

 

achievement of the purpose mentioned in subsection (2)(b).

 

( )    

The report dates relating to a Scottish strategy are each anniversary of the day on

 

which it was laid before the Scottish Parliament, other than an anniversary which

 

falls—

 

(a)    

on or after the date on which a subsequent Scottish strategy is so laid, or

 

(b)    

after the end of the target year.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  34

 

Clause  11,  page  6,  line  32,  leave out ‘relevant Northern Ireland department

 

proposes’ and insert ‘Northern Ireland departments propose’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  35

 

Clause  11,  page  6,  line  44,  leave out ‘relevant Northern Ireland department

 

intends’ and insert ‘Northern Ireland departments intend’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  36

 

Clause  11,  page  7,  line  3,  leave out ‘relevant Northern Ireland department intends’

 

and insert ‘Northern Ireland departments intend’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  37

 

Clause  11,  page  7,  line  7,  leave out ‘relevant Northern Ireland department intends’

 

and insert ‘Northern Ireland departments intend’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  38

 

Clause  11,  page  7,  line  12,  leave out ‘relevant Northern Ireland department’ and

 

insert ‘Northern Ireland departments’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  39

 

Clause  11,  page  7,  line  19,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

The relevant Northern Ireland department must, on or before each report date

 

relating to a Northern Ireland strategy, lay before the Northern Ireland Assembly

 

a report which—

 

(a)    

describes the measures taken by the Northern Ireland departments in

 

accordance with the Northern Ireland strategy,

 

(b)    

describes the effect of those measures in contributing to the meeting of

 

the targets in sections 2 to 5, and

 

(c)    

describes other effects of those measures that contribute to the

 

achievement of the purpose mentioned in subsection (2)(b).

 

( )    

The report dates relating to a Northern Ireland strategy are each anniversary of the

 

day on which it was laid before the Northern Ireland Assembly, other than an

 

anniversary which falls—


 
 

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(a)    

on or after the date on which a subsequent Northern Ireland strategy is so

 

laid, or

 

(b)    

after the end of the target year.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clause 12 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  40

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  line  3,  leave out from beginning to ‘lay’ and insert ‘The

 

Secretary of State must, on or before each report date relating to a UK strategy’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  41

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  line  7,  leave out ‘current’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  42

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  line  8,  leave out subsection (2) and insert—

 

‘(2)    

The report dates relating to a UK strategy are each anniversary of the day on

 

which it was laid before Parliament, other than an anniversary which falls—

 

(a)    

on or after the date on which a subsequent UK strategy is so laid, or

 

(b)    

after the end of the target year.’

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  43

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  line  15,  leave out ‘most recent’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  44

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  line  17,  leave out ‘relevant Northern Ireland department’ and

 

insert ‘Northern Ireland departments’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  45

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  line  23,  leave out ‘most recent’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Steve Webb

 

John Barrett

 

Ms Karen Buck

 

Not called  54

 

Clause  14,  page  9,  line  2,  at end insert—


 
 

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‘(2)    

The report under section 13 (3) must include a statement on the numbers and the

 

percentage of children living with family and friends carers in qualifying

 

households, including:

 

(a)    

the percentage of these households that fell within the relevant income

 

group for the purpose of section 2;

 

(b)    

the percentage who for the purposes of section 3 are living in households

 

that fell within the relevant income group and experiencing material

 

deprivation;

 

(c)    

the percentage of these households that fell within the relevant income

 

group for the purposes of section 4;

 

(d)    

the percentage of these households during the survey years (as defined by

 

section 5 (2)) which relate to the target year who have lived in households

 

that fell within the relevant income group for the purposes of section 5 in

 

at least 3 of the survey years.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Graham Stuart

 

Withdrawn  61

 

Clause  15,  page  9,  line  21,  at end insert ‘including with regard to any statutory duty

 

to reduce public borrowing’.

 

Mr Stephen Timms

 

Agreed to  46

 

Clause  15,  page  9,  line  24,  leave out ‘them’ and insert ‘the Scottish Ministers or, as

 

the case may be, to the Northern Ireland departments’.

 

Steve Webb

 

John Barrett

 

Not selected  29

 

Page  9,  line  11,  leave out Clause 15.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clause 16 Agreed to.

 

Schedule 2 Agreed to.

 


 

Steve Webb

 

John Barrett

 

Not called  53

 

Clause  17,  page  9,  line  33,  at end insert—

 

‘ “family and friends carer” means a person who is raising a child (who is

 

not living with his or her parents) and is related to the child or otherwise

 

connected to them.’.


 
 

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Ms Karen Buck

 

Not called  65

 

Clause  17,  page  10,  line  6,  at end add ‘A “family and friends carer” means a person

 

who is raising a child (who is not living with his parents) and is related to the child or

 

otherwise connected to them.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

[Adjourned until Tuesday 3 November at 10.30 am


 
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